Spoke with John from Max Marine today, he suggests changing the placement of fuel filter and oil container into the space under the floor, add an extra bilge, placing a battery isolation switch where you have the oil tank and place the batteries each side of the leaving the bulb pump in its place. By making these changes you will not have to remove the board under the deck and will clean up all electrics and fuel lines.
I will take some pics of my boat tomorrow that seems to be almost identical as yours at the rear. The only problem I can see is the space available for the batteries and the height of the oil bottle if moved below the deck.
Anther idea that I have done to my boat is build a kill tank below the deck, it is one of the best things I could have done. The biggest problem I have is getting out of my chair and walking to the bait board.
Have considered those options, the batteries will fit across the transom, but I need to cut away the panel (Square it up) to be able to easily remove each battery. There will be no room for anything else. Relocating the fuel filter is OK, but abit apprihensive about having the oil tank under the floor, or more exactly the oil pump under the floor, I read somewhere it could get corrosion problems. Considering the other steel components on this motor I wouldn't be surprised. No oil pump, no motor. If I won tatts I would get a 4 stroke, then I wouldn't have the problem.
What did you mean "add an extra bilge", the bilge being the lowest compartment in the hull.
Been trying to add some pictures, but have given up.
Does your motor also have a secondary oil tank at the motor fed by the external tank. Had my tank under the deck for 1 1/2 years and no problems. leave the hatch open and dry the area after a day on the water.
Have several bilge pumps under my deck only because I have a self draining deck, also a backup is always piece of mind.
But the oil tank bracket is made of steal and will rust in no time bellow the deck. Also on the back of the oil bottle is a pump that will be affected badly by corrosion. Maybe you could just move the oil bottle up higher. I would also move the fuel filter up as well. More away from the deck and wash down level.
I know you want the battery's low as your worried about center of gravety but i would also build a shelf and fit the battery's up of the deck also. Means you've got a clear uncluttered wash down area.
Now you can see that I dont have that same space available under the transom that the outboard model of the Sportsman has, I realised you were refering to that. Kinda quaint the way Yamaha uses steel on these parts, your concerns mirrored my own re the pump and brackets. I did consider the idea of mounting the oil tank up high, and filling through a hatch from above. Seemed a bit messey, and I want to avoid any cutting if possible. I am leaning towards your idea of mounting the batteries, (again) but the oil tank has me stumped. I would add some more pictures, but havn't been able to, & don't want to start another thread on the subject. keep up the think tank, ideas appreciated.
Actually most companies use painted steel for these components and they do so to make them cheap. Hence they not such a bad thing becuase they are normally fitted in dry areas. Well thats there intention, not always a possibility though.
Looks great, but my work will have to be done on a very tight buget. It must be very satisfying to look at the work you have done on your boat. My aim basicly is to have a tidy boat with an uncluttered deck when I am at sea. I.e. a place for everything, put away but within easy reach. And I will have to work with what I have got. Those hatches look great, but I know what they cost.
In my opinion were the oil bottle is is fine. Best way to fill it is to have a small funnell with a hose that is just for the that job. Remeber you really only need fill it ever two or three trips. Battery's well the tighter the better. Just stick them back in but maybe just block them up slightly. The center compartment if you have no cover make up a clip on curtain that will hide everything out of site. If your not sure i can stick up a pick of my console on my little boat.
Sometimes the easiest way is just the best way. No need to over think the idea. I would move the fuel filter though or soon it would look nasty.
Kingfisher looks great..clean and uncluttered deck with good protection for battery's leads and the like.
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Kingfisher549
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Batteries
Spoke with John from Max Marine today, he suggests changing the placement of fuel filter and oil container into the space under the floor, add an extra bilge, placing a battery isolation switch where you have the oil tank and place the batteries each side of the leaving the bulb pump in its place. By making these changes you will not have to remove the board under the deck and will clean up all electrics and fuel lines.
I will take some pics of my boat tomorrow that seems to be almost identical as yours at the rear. The only problem I can see is the space available for the batteries and the height of the oil bottle if moved below the deck.
Anther idea that I have done to my boat is build a kill tank below the deck, it is one of the best things I could have done. The biggest problem I have is getting out of my chair and walking to the bait board.
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iana
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Thanks for the ideas.
Have considered those options, the batteries will fit across the transom, but I need to cut away the panel (Square it up) to be able to easily remove each battery. There will be no room for anything else. Relocating the fuel filter is OK, but abit apprihensive about having the oil tank under the floor, or more exactly the oil pump under the floor, I read somewhere it could get corrosion problems. Considering the other steel components on this motor I wouldn't be surprised. No oil pump, no motor. If I won tatts I would get a 4 stroke, then I wouldn't have the problem.
What did you mean "add an extra bilge", the bilge being the lowest compartment in the hull.
Been trying to add some pictures, but have given up.
Kingfisher549
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Oil tank
Does your motor also have a secondary oil tank at the motor fed by the external tank. Had my tank under the deck for 1 1/2 years and no problems. leave the hatch open and dry the area after a day on the water.
Have several bilge pumps under my deck only because I have a self draining deck, also a backup is always piece of mind.
Anyway I will take some pics tomorrow
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iana
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You are correct.
You are correct, the oil pump is secondary, the primary one is on the motor. You meant bilge pumps, now clearer.
Rod P
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But the oil tank bracket is
But the oil tank bracket is made of steal and will rust in no time bellow the deck. Also on the back of the oil bottle is a pump that will be affected badly by corrosion. Maybe you could just move the oil bottle up higher. I would also move the fuel filter up as well. More away from the deck and wash down level.
I know you want the battery's low as your worried about center of gravety but i would also build a shelf and fit the battery's up of the deck also. Means you've got a clear uncluttered wash down area.
Kingfisher549
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You mean like this
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iana
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Thanks rod
Now you can see that I dont have that same space available under the transom that the outboard model of the Sportsman has, I realised you were refering to that. Kinda quaint the way Yamaha uses steel on these parts, your concerns mirrored my own re the pump and brackets. I did consider the idea of mounting the oil tank up high, and filling through a hatch from above. Seemed a bit messey, and I want to avoid any cutting if possible. I am leaning towards your idea of mounting the batteries, (again) but the oil tank has me stumped. I would add some more pictures, but havn't been able to, & don't want to start another thread on the subject. keep up the think tank, ideas appreciated.
Rod P
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Actually most companies use
Actually most companies use painted steel for these components and they do so to make them cheap. Hence they not such a bad thing becuase they are normally fitted in dry areas. Well thats there intention, not always a possibility though.
iana
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Would love to Kingfisher.
Looks great, but my work will have to be done on a very tight buget. It must be very satisfying to look at the work you have done on your boat. My aim basicly is to have a tidy boat with an uncluttered deck when I am at sea. I.e. a place for everything, put away but within easy reach. And I will have to work with what I have got. Those hatches look great, but I know what they cost.
Rod P
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In my opinion were the oil
In my opinion were the oil bottle is is fine. Best way to fill it is to have a small funnell with a hose that is just for the that job. Remeber you really only need fill it ever two or three trips. Battery's well the tighter the better. Just stick them back in but maybe just block them up slightly. The center compartment if you have no cover make up a clip on curtain that will hide everything out of site. If your not sure i can stick up a pick of my console on my little boat.
Sometimes the easiest way is just the best way. No need to over think the idea. I would move the fuel filter though or soon it would look nasty.
Kingfisher looks great..clean and uncluttered deck with good protection for battery's leads and the like.
Kingfisher549
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Date Joined: 15/09/09
Thanks
Agree with Rod P, clean and simple is often the best, as you have said iana build or fish, I would rather fish,
Thanks Rod P, I have spent a lot of time on my boat, probably a little to much time, lucky I enjoy my beach fishing as much as boat time.
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