Seem reasonably thick to me, you'd need a lot of drag pressure to straighten them. I guess a fish biting down might be a little different (though not nessicariy worrying).

The raba rabas have pretty small, thin hooks too.

Edit: Colin, fish + lumo = mr sparkle :p

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I was quite supprised when we straigtended them on only 20lb braid

I reckon it would be more likely the pressure from the fishes mouth that straightened them, rather than drag pressure from 20lb braid.

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yeah your probably right

They look thick enough but what's the steel like, I've used Big Guns and Hoodlums for Bluebone and to look at you'd think they were similar strength but the Big Guns are chewing gum in comparison.
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I've caught baldies at Abrolhos on them and a few Dhuies to 11kg and cant complain about hook strength, the skirts on the Gillies jigs is a lot more durable than the others too.

I've sold hundreds of them and yet to have a complaint about them, the only feedback I've had has been all positive so far, unlike a couple of other brands out there.

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Not to mention, a lot more skirt (the rabas look like they're skimping a lot), cheaper, lots of lumo on the head and some on the skirt and have a default wobbling action. Not sure how the rabas or other jigs go when you leave them still, but the gillies kind of move side to side. Its not a constant motion wobble which looks unusual though (but not in a bad way)

Biggest dhuie so far was on a gillies. Admittidly, it wasnt all that big in relative terms :p

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Yet people are still straightening hooks.

1 person on a 60lb sambo using a little 100gram jig, so who are all these "people" that are straightening "hooks" on em?

Have you used or even seen them? 

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Uhhh, yeah, that must be it....

btw, where do these c's keep coming from?

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Al

Yes I own some
Yes I have used them, though only caught a blackarse

And amoungst people who I talk and work with a few have mentioned problems with the hooks, though they are using 50-80lb braid

Mainly on pinkies

do you think it's worth the extra money to upgrade hooks?

300 gram and the 100 gram from the pic above, most sambo jigs would have gamma or the likes in 9/0 or 10/0 fitted and around the 300 to 500 gram mark.

The Okta style jigs are designed more for slow jigging for bottom species, the fact that a 28kg sambo was landed on a 100 gram model with standard hooks is a testiment to the Gillies product.

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Upgrade by all means, but personally I havnt found the need to yet.

I've been using mine with upto 80lb with the 150 to 300 gram jigs and have had no problems what so ever.

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there radical looking things

Ive been using them alot of late and i personally dont take the risk on most off the shelf lures and upgrade the hooks. But thats just my personal preference. I just hate dropping good fish because of shit terminal tackle. Ill try one without upgrades and let you know what i think.



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thats what i say .a box of squid does me

Piece of cake!

Drop ya okta over the side and leave it a meter off the bottom with the rod in the holder, let the boat work it for you on the waves/chop/swell.

Then drop a bait over as per usual, you'll be surprised at how often the jig gets hit

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cheers hobie bloke.i will give it a go.all i catch is dhuie mybe with a hook off the bottom might pick up a pinky

I dont think so maybe a little too much drag,if your straightenging hooks there shit

If you dont have a spare rod, you can use the jigs as a sinker weight on a paternoster too. Depends on the drift as you can obviously get larger sinkers than jigs. You can only use two droppers as the jig counts as a set of hooks though. Keeping it off the bottom still applies (but then I dont like dragging my sinker either).

Makes you wonder whether a jig assist hook and a skirt on a painted sinker would work too :p

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I've not used them yet (certainly will), but from those picks, they look reasonably solid. 

Colin Molloy

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More likely isnt a fact,maybe a crocodile might straighten them!lol

PMSL

its not how thick the hook is though, its the material the hook is made out of . i can vouch for the ruba rubas hooks as my 80 lb braid broke before the hooks gave way in a snagged situation
brenz

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if you straighten them hooks on 20lb line more likely there is a problem,and if your straightening them on 80lb its more likely the crocodile on the end

Hobie,

I caught a baldie and a big queenie on the Ockta yesterday. No problems at all.

I also had one snagged up a couple of weeks ago when I had to snap the line off. 50lb braid with 80lb leader. I snapped the leader off and the hooks were still hanging on.

I reckon the hooks on the Ockta are fine.

Steve

one of those Diawa ones? in Onslow and unfortunately for me, it got nailed in a nanosecond! Steroids I tell ya, they're all on steroids....

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