New Boat Time

Hi all,

Well a new boat is on the card for myself, but im very stuck for what to get.

I dont know much about the newer boats, brands and makes which are best to look at.

So if anyone has some info...would be greatly appreciated.

I will give you a run down on what im looking for, wanting to spend, and the purposes of the boat.

Budget. price $125,000 or less
Size. 21ft - 26ft
Can be either brand new or second hand...but no older than 2004 model.
Dual Engines would be nice, but must be 4 stks...Dual is not essential.
Would like to mix size with Fuel economy. but id imagine twin 150hp + 4stks??

Im stuck between going for a fibre or a ally boat. The purpose for the boat would be to suit both fishing anywhere, and be comfortable for me to take the missus and the future kids..whenevr that might be out on the river, or into the ocean with some comfort. So this makes a split decision for me on the hull type.

Would like a small cabin with enough room for 2 people to be able to sleep if we went out to rottnest or something and had a night over. But again this is not essential. Also as much tuck away storage would ne nice aswell.

If anyone has any brands of boats, or links to boat websites, or anything at all would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys.


Adam Gallash's picture

Lucky bugger

Wed, 2008-01-30 09:11

You lucky bugger!  Will do some thinking about this one, what sort of car do you have to tow it with?  If your going 21-26ft fibreglass you will need a vehicle with some power.

milsey's picture

i like the look of the

Wed, 2008-01-30 09:15

i like the look of the trophy walk arounds just an idea
http://international.trophyfishing.com/walkaround.asp

if i had the coin i would

Wed, 2008-01-30 09:43

if i had the coin i would look long and hard at "noble super vee" range, "bar crusher"  and similar designs ..... i admit that ive never been on these boats but i would look at them . i own a westerberg 7.5m and with the sort of weight your playing around with i'd look at 2 x 150 4st's or a diesel inboard (something like a volvo d3190 or 230) .. as for lay out id opt for a center cab with the cab as far back as possible in the hull as this gives an excelent ride in ally's .. with what ever layout you go for try to keep the weight low in the hull if you go ally (why the inboards are good)

best thing i can suggest is try them all :)

happy hunting and tell us all your results as you go

Bodie's picture

A new vechiele will be

Wed, 2008-01-30 10:01

A new vechiele will be purchased.. at this stage it looks to be a landcruiser... Weight is a problem, as i was going to look at buying a new Prado...but with only a 2.5T towing capacity, this is probably out of the question id say.

A vechiele isnt really a drama as i am in the market for a 4WD, so i will find one to suit. :)

Thanks for your comments....keep em coming.

Il check out your suggestions Feral.

Cheers

GOATRUTAR's picture

Bodie I just bought a Prado

Wed, 2008-01-30 10:15

Bodie I just bought a Prado to tow mine and I wish I had have gone cruiser.Beautiful car but my boat is pushin 2.5-2.6 and Prado's are not made for this IMO.
The new 200series looks the goods!
IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

Bodie's picture

Yeah i know the new 200

Wed, 2008-01-30 10:57

Yeah i know the new 200 series looks sweet..and the missus wants one.... so its a consideration.

So you struggle with the Prado?

I was checking out some of the haines hunter boats and the 6-7 metre ones weigh in at around 1500-1800kgs, plus 400kgs engine.. not as heavy as i first thought.

the 8m is only 1900kgs

Three Lions's picture

weekend paper

Wed, 2008-01-30 11:23

Cruise craft 680 outsider twin 150 hp 4 banger. great sea boat and good for the family. $95000 from memory, you will need a good towing 4x4.

Bodie's picture

yeh the cruisecraft sounds

Wed, 2008-01-30 11:41

yeh the cruisecraft sounds pretty sweet.

GOATRUTAR's picture

Don't forget that the weight

Wed, 2008-01-30 12:00

Don't forget that the weight of the hull is dry!Mine has a 450ltr fuel tank plus all the other shit you normally cart.I would have 60kgs of sinkers on board.

Bodie one of the guys is selling a 685cruise craft with
twin115 4st yammies for under $70,000.
This thing has a shitter and all top elects.
Nice rig and rides like a dream as I've been told.

IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

thebear's picture

760 Northshore.

Wed, 2008-01-30 12:10

best value for under 120k
and local as well.
Forget the bin liners. IMO...:)

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NoWorries's picture

I agree with Milsey

Wed, 2008-01-30 12:14

Trophy Walkaround

Only problem is you have to deal with Avante

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GOATRUTAR's picture

That cruisy is gone! IF IT

Wed, 2008-01-30 12:15

That cruisy is gone!

IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

Dean's picture

Northshore 760 worth a look.

Wed, 2008-01-30 12:26

Northshore 760 worth a look.

Bunbury Fibreglass

Wed, 2008-01-30 14:20

Bodie,
lately i've been chasin black crabs in the SW with a mate who works for Bunbury Fibreglass(08) 9725 6404. they are producing high end boats with some high tech hollow fibreglass hulls, and getting really good results. met his boss who seems a good bloke. they are scoring heaps of orders just word of mouth. 'a glass boat that's lighter than ally' got me interested. Michael has a demo 20 ft console which fully hums.
just a thought.

bouttime's picture

If you had the Landcruiser

Wed, 2008-01-30 18:45

If you had the Landcruiser 200 Turbo Diesel i would consider a caribean 2400 flybridge on a trailer. Very nice set up for around 120K. If looking at Alloy than prob a custom 7-8mtr boat set up with the best you can get.

BQ544's picture

Here's my choice for 125K

Wed, 2008-01-30 19:29

Purchased new 2004, this Blackwatch 26 has been "boatman" maintained and is in magnificent condition. Powered by a fresh water cooled Mercruiser 300hp with a Bravo 11 leg, she will cruise at 21 knots, tops out around 28 knots and carries 500 Litres of fuel and 150 litres of water. Has shorepower and an inverter and comes with Simrad color GPS/Sounder and both 27 meg and VHF radios. Sleeps 3 and has an electric toilet and also a cooktop and BBQ and there is 6'2" headroom in the saloon. There is hot water off the manifold and she also has a fridge freezer in the galley and an icebox in the cockpit. Comes with a 2005 9' rubber dinghy with a 2hp Honda. There is also a comprehensive range of quality game fishing gear available at extra cost. Has full safety gear with 8 jackets from kids to adults. These Blackwatchs are incredible vessels and well renown and sought after for their handling characteristics. Dont put it off. Call 1300 309 567 or CLICK HERE to email us your contact details and we will put you in touch with the owner.

PilbaraBrad's picture

keep your money and go on

Wed, 2008-01-30 20:53

keep your money and go on 125K worth of charters mate, or perhaps 100k worth of charters and 25k worth of beer, ill take you barra fishing for 5 grand but you better be quick, might be 6k next week, haha

Dean's picture

'a glass boat that's lighter

Wed, 2008-01-30 21:51

'a glass boat that's lighter than ally'

wouldn't ride like a traditional glass boat though.

GOATRUTAR's picture

Brad you are 100% correct

Wed, 2008-01-30 22:34

Brad you are 100% correct and if you worked it out you would be better off!

IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

Andy's picture

2302 Trophy walkaround

Thu, 2008-01-31 11:23

awsome boats they go for around 120k with a 275 verado i think. they have to be one of the best layed out boats out there.

GOATRUTAR's picture

I have heard that you

Thu, 2008-01-31 13:22

I have heard that you require a fuel tanker for them Verados.
One of the boys was running a 275 on a 20-24ft blackwatch and it was costing him over $200 to go to the fads and back when fuel was around a 1.

IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

Andy's picture

verados

Thu, 2008-01-31 16:10

Is the boat your talking about that centre console called whiplash. That motor would have been one of the earlier ones. They claim their latest model uses 22% less fuel than their earlier models.

GOATRUTAR's picture

Andy I'm not sure of the

Thu, 2008-01-31 18:07

Andy I'm not sure of the name but it might be the one!
It is dark in colour and when it was sold it was up at beacon marine.on consignment.
IF IT SMELLS LIKE FISH IT MUST BE GOOD FOR YOU!

i know that boat

Thu, 2008-01-31 20:09

and yeah it did use a fair bit of juice to get to the fads. lovely fishing deck and handles the seas awsomely. from what i hear i think he is keeping it now.

Rodrat's picture

save the money!

Thu, 2008-01-31 20:31

Have to agree with brad, save the money and go on a lot of good charters and trips.

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Hi Ya, Assuming $125000 for

Thu, 2008-01-31 21:15

Hi Ya,

Assuming $125000 for the boat, $65000 for a Landy and $200 per day for a charter boat trip you could go out on a charter every month for 79 years and have change!!!  Or, you could go out on the same charter twice every month for 39 and 6 months.

But if you have my luck, 6 out of every 7 charter trips will be ancelled due to weather.  But then, owning your own boat won't change the weather LOL

Hmmm.

Cheers.

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Bodie's picture

Its not just the fishing

Fri, 2008-02-01 08:16

Its not just the fishing aspect tho.... missus would like to head out on the river during the warmer months....catch crabs...get cray pots... the whole box and dice.

Car is most probably going to be a Jeep Grand Cherokee Turbo Diesel... going tomorrow.

Hi Ya, Bodie, I wasn't

Fri, 2008-02-01 12:41

Hi Ya,

Bodie, I wasn't pushing any particular philosophy, just intrigued me to do the math.  I did quite a bit of 'figuring' a year or so ago and hiring a boat when you need one makes a hell of a lot of financial sense.  But it sure doesn't allow for the spur-of-the-moment trip.  Despite all the financial arguments against buying/owning a boat, I would still like to get one.  One day...

Cheers.

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Bodie's picture

Yeah i get what you mean,

Fri, 2008-02-01 12:58

Yeah i get what you mean,

And if i were going to bury myself in debt in buying a boat, i doubt i would buy one...luckily enough i wont be doing so.

Owning your own boat does give you the ability to say.. "Dam the weathers good today, lets hit it" type attitude.

Cant wait!

Colin Hay's picture

Go for it Bodie

Fri, 2008-02-01 13:03

If you have the dosh go for it. I can only dream of being able to get a great boat.

sherbert's picture

My older son works for toyota

Fri, 2008-02-01 17:53

If you woukd like a good price

steve

Born to fish forced to work

Dreamweaver's picture

Grady White's

Sun, 2008-02-03 07:53

G'day Bodie 

Here's a few picks of a Grady White, they built in South Carolina. I haven't water tested one, but seen them up close - similar in initial appearance to the Trophies - but even more bling and finish!

THE OVERALL PIC

Boat

 

RAISED HELM AREA FOR DRYNESS - NOTICE SORAGE DETAIL ETC:

 

HELM CLOSE UP - LOCK DOWN ELECTRICS 

 

 

 VERY BASIC CABIN:

 

 

Colin

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Rodrat's picture

Beauty

Sun, 2008-02-03 08:22

Thats a great looking boat colin, what would that set ya back?

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SamC's picture

Im with Colin

Sun, 2008-02-03 08:31

my cousin are looking at the Grady Whites over in the states and look like a bloody nice boat..

theres a dealer down at mandurah that has them..

cheers
sam

Dreamweaver's picture

Not sure Rod - $$$s - Dealer

Sun, 2008-02-03 08:44

Rod - yeah I agree - nice boats - don't know the price, but I know they are not cheap. Have to say, the glass work, fittings and attention to detail were really superb.

Sam - The dealer is Mandurah Outboards - ask for Karen.

That's where I bought my Carribean Adventurer cuddy from.

They've got one of the large ones parked outside and sitting on a tripple axle - what a beautty she is Surprised !

When I had some work done a while back on our boat, they gave me a brochure (more like a book!) - it has a lot of drool marks on it. Tongue out   

 

Colin

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alfred's picture

Grady and Whalers are nice

Sun, 2008-02-03 13:11

Grady and Whalers are nice boats.  Built tough and safe.  Usually well planned and abit heavier then most others of the same LOA.  I'd get another anyday.

Adam Gallash's picture

Heres my choice

Sun, 2008-02-03 13:28

http://www.sailfishboats.com/boats.cfm?boat=19

 

Heres my choice, not quite to the specifications you wanted thou.  Say they'd be bloody expensive too. 

Dreamweaver's picture

I agree!

Sun, 2008-02-03 15:42

Bloody nice boats Adam - pheoniminal attention to detail - and I agree, take a very fat wallet.

Fair though gone into the website too.

 

Colin

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VMR 610 - Albany Sea Rescue - Mariner 421

Andy's picture

grady whites

Tue, 2008-02-05 19:12

from what ive seen those grady whites are a fair bit more expensive than the trophies. Cant go wrong with a trophy, first class fit out, very well laid out and built tough. We have a 18ft trophy with a 135 optimax, its alot smaller than what your looking at, but their range of centre cabs are well worth looking at.

Three Lions's picture

Trophies

Wed, 2008-02-06 14:08

Bodie do a search on some forums from the US on the Trophy's. They get a bit of a flogging over there, and are a cheap boat compeared to the Bostons and Grady's. Just because they are an american import, doesn't mean they are good boats. Do lots of reading on net, not many boats on the water these days that have not had a review done.

Ryan Thipthorp's picture

for me!

Thu, 2008-02-07 21:37

I've been on a lot of boats Bodie over the years and the Leisure Cat's (WA made) stood out bigtime and contemplating getting one myself. I've got a mono hull now but the ride of two sponsons makes it a great offshore boat to take the punishment. Personally i'm a F/G fan and like the comfort ride you get from glass also.

I've just had a mate buy the new 7m WA made Leisure Cat and that was 145K new with all the fruit including new Suzuki 4 strokes etc. Good fuel storage, fuel range and there's a few models available. WA boat builders make a good boat generally to suit our not so nice windy coast line!

If you want to make an enquiry call Mark on # 0423685271,tell i recommended you!

Cheers

Ryan

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