abrolhos suggestions
Submitted by Markie on Mon, 2010-08-23 16:14
Im goin to be bookin a charter for the abrolhos islands soon for me and my partner. Which month do ya think and what charter? Would like some feed back from the guys/ladies who hav been as i have never been before. I want to catch the deep sea fish and want to do the trollin for macks etc??

till
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I was there recently and the
I was there recently and the spanish macks had all gone - probably try April?
Markie
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yeh iv been told early
yeh iv been told early season so thats april may eh??
hlokk
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I've been out in several
I've been out in several different months. There were macks in the early season (april), but didnt get any june/july. We did still get lots of fish though, still heaps of demersals, and still lots of pelagics around later in the year (YFT's, stripeys, YTK's, sambos, shark mackies, etc).
Markie
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catch lots of fish in aprill
catch lots of fish in aprill besidez the macks?
hlokk
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Yep, heaps of other ones. We
Yep, heaps of other ones. We actually had to stop catching macks as we had too many :p
On all trips, we've thrown back (with release weight) more size dhuies than we kept :p
Heres the report (was early May now that I check). Thats mostly my fish. I think Ollie got 9 sized dhuies on jig. There were 10+ 3kg+ trout, heaps of dhuies, heaps of pinkies, heaps of spanglies (again, we had to stop fishing for them they were that thick, though there were lots of catch and release :p). Several ripper baldies too. I'm sure there were some others but cant think of off the top of my head.
Markie
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Would like to kno of the
Would like to kno of the better more proffesional charters also. i want to make my gf and i very happy with our first trip. :D
hlokk
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I went out with Saltwater
I went out with Saltwater charters and highly recommend (went out 3 times this year actually :p). Certain charters fish the abrolhos in 70m of water or so. Wheres the fun in that when you can catch more fish in 10-20m of water on soft plastics where you can see the bottom!
Markie
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Aw man u makin me jelous and
Aw man u makin me jelous and excited haha. So saltwater charters you were really happy with i take it. What gear do you hav to bring plastics etc or what?
Markie
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Also im takin my lady so for
Also im takin my lady so for her sake i will onli go 3 days fishin. Think thats plenty?
hlokk
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Generally best to bring your
Generally best to bring your own gear, but Craig does have both. (Might not have a huge number of SP packets though).
Trips are generally 4 days (Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon get back mid arvo). Might be a little hard getting another boat to pick you up and drop you back in Gero a day earlier :p. Though, if you booked the charter yourself, and got some mates or other people you should be able to sort a 3 day trip.
Though, it'd still be 3 continuous days on a boat with your missus. Sure you want that? lol.
Markie
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hahaha mate shes pretty keen
hahaha mate shes pretty keen to catch fish im sure i can shes a good girl. 4 days ay i will give them a ring see what i can sort out. I hav only just joined this site but think many people on here keen to do that sort of thing, Just post it in fishing buddy section or some thing? What soft plastics did you bring? Have they got good fishing rods on board? Im think your advice is enough to just book them asap haha
thesupervisor
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have a look at rat patrol
have a look at rat patrol ive been with them 4 times its a bit less ruged that saltwater by that i mean you get your own room ect most chicks like that
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Markie
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rat patrol which company is
rat patrol which company is that?
thesupervisor
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abrohlos island
abrohlos island charters
http://www.abrolhosislandcharters.com.au
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Goodz
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Also recommend Abrohlos
Also recommend Abrohlos Island Charters on the Rat Patrol. Well set up boat and great skipper.
Markie
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Did you guys bring any gear
Did you guys bring any gear for the trip on rat patrol or they got it pretty susssed? what time of year?
thesupervisor
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ive done 3 sept trips and
ive done 3 sept trips and one in june
they have all the gear but if you want something nice to use bring your own
ive never come home with less that 8kg of fillets too wich helps to justify the costs
between me and 3 mates we took 17 rods and god knows how much tackle
thats nothing compared to what hlok and jamie would take hey hahaha
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hlokk
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Hey, I only took 14, so
Hey, I only took 14, so thats less than the 17. lol.
(In all seriousness, i probably took 8-10 and woulda used all or all but one)
kane
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im booked in april
hopefully the weather is good to us :)
Gooooone Fishin!
bagafillets
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Abrolhos
My Gf and i went on Mills Charters too the Abrolhos at the end of June and we couldnt fault them. The Aussie Warrior is an awesome boat comfortable clean stable and reasonably quick for a 75 footer. Also has male and female toilets and showers. Best of all we couldnt have asked any more of Bonser the skipper Rowdy and Paddy the two deckies.Really easy to get along with and just great blokes in general.
kane
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Sweet,
We are booked with Top Gun charters, dont know much about them, the father in law organised this trip, cant be bad no matter who you go with i reckon :)
Gooooone Fishin!
Markie
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17 rods and 14 rods hlok
17 rods and 14 rods hlok MADNESSS can one rod do the trick or is it necesary to hav all the different rods lol? prob goin to buy a torium soon duno what rodd but yehh since u guys brang so many rods what caught what? or you guys just wanted to use the light and heavy gearr. 14 rods i cant get over it LOLL
hlokk
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The 14 was a joke, but was
The 14 was a joke, but was prob around 10. I used heaps because, well I have lots of gear, and its good having them rigged up ready to go. We always stopped by bait bustups and whatnot for example (some charters just breeze past....).
Heres what I took last time:
1. Light combo outfit - 10lb
2. Spinning lure or plastic outfit - 20lb
3. Plastics or driftbait spin gear - 20lb
4. Long stickbait rod - 20lb
5. PE2 jigger
6. PE4 jigger
7. 8kg trolling
8. 15kg trolling
9. driftbait rod (30lb)
10. Flyrod
11. overhead combo for someone else to use or sharks at night - 50lb.
Do you need that many? No, but seeing as I had them, and I found space for them (some cord and the canopy framing helps), I had them all rigged and ready. So if we saw a small tuna school i'd chuck out a small plastic on a small rod, or if bigger then a twisty. Or we'd work the reefs with bait getting pushed up and i'd alternate between a stickbait for exploring reef/pelagics and a plastic on another rod so I could drop straight down for pinkies. We'd then troll to the next spot and my rods would have lures on them ready (usually would only use one of mine at a time). Then next spot, drop a jig down without having to rig up. Etc, etc. Just great not having to re-rig up when you get to the next spot. Just pick the outfit and you're good to go.
You'd get away with 3 no problems though. Go a 7' spin stick that can chuck 30g lures, then go a light combo overhead setup for driftbaiting, then a heavier overhead for trolling. Thats just how i'd do it, you can really do it any ways, and it depends which charter you're on. We were fishing 10-30m 90% of the time, so I could use plastics and driftbaits, and we stopped by all the bustups/birds we saw and did a fair bit of trolling. Some charters just go bottom bouncing in the 70m+ range, dont bother with bait bustups and dont do much trolling, in which case you'd only need one combo.
Markie
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ok wikid so i hav never used
ok wikid so i hav never used the soft plastics before for the pinkies etc. A spin combo is good for that yeh guessin lot better than o/h s?
hlokk
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I find it easier. Plus you
I find it easier. Plus you can bomb out twisties to bait schools a hell of a lot easier with a spin setup. A small baitcaster and matched rod would still be fine for plastics most of the time though.
Markie
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also hlok i hav a fair few
also hlok i hav a fair few beach rods since i dont have a boat o/h s etc all new to me. I have spinfisher 850 reel and some big okuma reel forgot the name right now. Would these reels be any good for a smaller rods for the Big SPs or nah better wit smaller reel?
hlokk
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Those reels would be huge on
Those reels would be huge on a small rod. Ideally you'd want something smaller, and preferably with instant anti-reverse. Both will help you work the plastics more effectively. You could use a cheaper setup such as a raider/dropshot and a reel abotu $100-150 and be fine though so you dont need to spend big (especially if yuo wouldnt use it often). But it depends which charter you go on though, as if you're not fishing shallow and you're not chucking stuff at bait bustups (usually in shallower) then you wont have much use for it.
Markie
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ahh yeh so what size reel
ahh yeh so what size reel you talkin. I have this abu garcia cardinal 176i it not big like the others if u seen em... Just tryin to save the money i can.. big mortgage and keen to buy boat soon
hlokk
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Generally, something
Generally, something 3000-4000 sized if daiwa/shimano or equivalent size/weight/strength/etc. But again, check which charter, as some dont fish shallow and a plastics/lure outfit wouldnt be very useful. The right reel could also be used for other things, e.g. spinning lures/plastics up north, or match it to a light long graphite rod and use it for chucking lures at salmon down south.
Markie
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yeh ive got a daiwa sensor
yeh ive got a daiwa sensor rod 10" its a beauty. cheers for the help will find out wit the charters. Im goin to go salwater or the ratpatrol since i have been told it has rooms, the lady friend might be happier with that. Will prob do another trip that year on mi own, prob people on here wanting positions filled etc for there boats. Been fishing for couple yrs but just been fishin obsessed in last yr or so.