Banax GT 5000
Submitted by Albee Mangles on Wed, 2008-09-10 12:10
Has anyone had any experience with these reels? I'm looking for a tough, well priced reel for use of my Kayak for light jigging, bottom bouncing stuff, with 40lb braid. They seem to be a well constructed reel, with solid componentry. I have 2 of the small si reels and they are proving reliable.
http://www.sportsfish.com.au/pages/library/product-reviews/gladiator/banax_gt_reel.html
Any comments?
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Brett, I have a Banax ISO 7000
It is a great reel for the price. Tough as, and with plenty of grunt.
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yep they're a solid reel
yep they're a solid reel
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Just last week I seen one
Just last week I seen one that had just come back from Carnarvon, it lasted two fish and is now going back for warranty.
Line roller shit itself and some bad knocking noises coming from inside.
For that sort of money there are a lot of better options IMHO.
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Drill
wait for the Ryobi Safari
Or a Fin Nor offshore
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for the price they are a
for the price they are a solid reel and good value have played with them at exmouth thrashed the crap outa it and still good as gold. but as mav said save the extra coin and get a safari
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Thanx Guys
Any suggestions Al? Alternatives for the price?
Mav i like the Fin Nor but is doesnt have Infinite Anti-Reverse..
Whens the Safari due, and whats the expected retail?
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I reckon the Penn
I reckon the Penn Spinfishers are better, and that's saying something....lol
The Banax that came back was given to us to test out, Steve from our shop used it once and it crapped out and I've had a good look at it.
I know for that price I would expect much more capability than two fish.
Wait until all the new model reels hit the shops, there's some really nice stuff due to arrive.
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safari due in oct im pretty
safari due in oct im pretty sure we will start them off round the 320 mark but wont be 100%sure till they arive
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The Safaris are great looking reels
What sizes will you be getting in Brendan?
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The Safari's only come in
The Safari's only come in one size, 5000. If these are anything like the original Jap model then they'll be bullet proof and nothing else can compete, bar Stellas, Saltigas and Van Staals.
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I was given a GT5000 to test
I was given a GT5000 to test recently. Not a bad reel but noticed the line roller didn't work when under any preasure. I put 80lb braid on it which is a bit unrealistic 'cause it can't make enough drag to fish 80lb. 40lb would be OK though.
I've only used it once so can't really talk about long term reliability, but I caught two GT's on it around 12kg each and it seemed to handle it OK. Lays line evenly and casts well, reasonably smooth winding.
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Daiwa Sealine Bull
Cheaper option and seem to be tough enough.....
just a suggestions
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Brett, I guess three of the big issues when you are fishing
from a yak is the weight of the reel, stopping power and corrosion resistance.
Weight wise the Banax GT and the Penn are between 50 and 200 grams lighter (depending on whether you go for a 4500 or 6000) Daiwa Sealine Bull. The Daiwa probably comes out in front on corrosion resistance. Not sure of the drag pulling stats, but you may be able to find that out with a bit of research.
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yeah colin the Bulls are a
yeah colin the Bulls are a nice reel too imo
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Got to agree Matt
Good value too.
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y not look at the spheros?
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Banax GT
Guys
Here's a picture that might show you the strength of Banax. It's about the third 40kg GT caught on Nomad charters using the GT5000 with 80lb Tortue Big Bang Braid. Also I hope you don't listen to a guy sponsored by Shimano commenting on our gear.
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Only comment on what I know
Only comment on what I know Steve,
Quoted from another forum by the guy I work with that was given the reel to test.
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LOL
lol of course you heard that al
:)
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Dont be an idiot brenz! I
Dont be an idiot brenz!
I was in the shop when the reel was returned, and we actually have them in stock.
The guy in the quote above that used the reel works with me, unlike your claims about the stella's.
Take it to pm if you want to go further, but i'm sick of you dogging me all over the forum with bullshit and untrue claims.
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al was just a joke like the
al was just a joke like the comment you made to me thismorning on the torsa forum we are all intitled to say what we want. if you cant take shit then dont hand it out ! was just a joke so back off MATE
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my reply
in the other thread was no joke
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fair enough but mine was a
fair enough but mine was a joke sorry you took it the wrong way have edited the other post so as there is no missconseption
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Good on you Steve
I love my Banax - a great value reel.
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hey steve. at least he puts
hey steve. at least he puts on his posts "PROUD" to be sponsored by shimano
one word makes a bloody big difference in my and others eyes......
cheers Jes
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what
what the..............
cheers Jes
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Never mind guys, it's old
Never mind guys, it's old now.
Apparently it's supposed to be a huge embarrasing mistake that one will never live down by calling a line roller bush a bearing, but I couldnt give a toss really as what ever the part is it's crap and fails at times on some reels.
Anyone who has to use smoke screens and mirrors to defend a product must know something.
I had a rep show me these reels some months ago when I was running a large tackle store, his claims were that they were better than a Stella or Saltiga, needless to say I didnt order anything off this rep and am now glad I didnt.
Hows that for awkwid....pmsl.
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oh yes...... i bow to you
oh yes...... i bow to you king mr bling
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I dont see any reel in the
I dont see any reel in the pic of the GT
The combo in the background was not mine, I got this fish on a Durango
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i hope it was a pink one gay
i hope it was a pink one gay lord
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Oh ghost yes darling if
Oh ghost yes darling
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carefull..... you'll get in
carefull..... you'll get in trouble......
cheers Jes
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Smoke and mirrors to defend his product??? What are you smoking man, I WANT SOME. You have a dig at his product and he sets you straight, he puts up a photo of a fish he's caught and you imply he's caught it on something other than what he's said...
If you don't like his reels then fair chop, but to bag them out with someone elses experience and then get it wrong (even if its a small wrong) is pretty lame IMO.
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Fair call Adam I agree I
Fair call Adam I agree I probably went too far, it was the "Sponsorship" comment as well as a few others from another member that got me fired up.
Sponsored by Shimano yes and I am proud of that, however I also work in the tackle industry and get a lot of feedback from customers & staff on a whole wide range of gear from JW to Accurate with everything in between.
Just because I'm sponsored doesnt mean I am biased, there's good points and bad in most ranges of any brand.
I didnt really post initially to bag a product however there were comments on this post and others from your own site sponsors that were more than a little provoking, and I reacted when I probably should've just bitten my lip.
My apologies for letting myself be drawn into a debarcle that I could've easly ignored, I hope SteveB got my pm the other night and that there's no hard feelings.
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nice(the GT) fish but unless that
nice fish but unless that guy is 6ft 6 i wouldnt call that thing for 40kg's. seen much bigger fish come in at 30ish
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Another option could be the
Another option could be the excellor oceano ????
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rofpmsl gee wiz what do ya
rofpmsl gee wiz what do ya say ?? i stand by these reels and with a pik like that i can rest my case!!!
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yep thats a very good
yep steveB post is a very good example of how tuff they are.
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that was 1 reel as mr banax
that was 1 reel as mr banax pointed out 40kg gts are no pussy fish and to nail 3 is impressive to me. until a reel is owned i feel that personal feedback comments do not apply . we have sold plenty of these reels and had none back just as you have sold plenty i would suspect and only had 1 return . imo pretty impressive for a lower range reel.
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It seems by all accounts of
It seems by all accounts of what Brett can find out about these reels is the roller bearing has failed on more than a few occasions, perhaps if Gladiator looked into this there would be no further problems.
As for this remark
"until a reel is owned i feel that personal feedback comments do not apply"
As you well know when working in the tackle trade you get a lot of feedback on plenty of gear, and saying as you have, would mean you can only sell a small variety of gear available, as you could not possibly have owned everything, and customer feedback is crap.
Anyway I cant see where I've actully bagged anything, just pointed out a minor problem with a reel that was tested by an unbiased person within the tackle industry whom I work with, I hope they look into it, as they do seem a very solid mid range reel.
Al.
ps. I cant see why one would give a reel out for testing and not want to hear honest feedback, just doesnt make sense to me.
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Well i guess its a case of
Well i guess its a case of not buying a reel made on a friday afternoon, the guys building them probally are thinking of the weekend and not on quality control
I know Albees reeeel pleased with his smaller Banax, he has told me this face to face and Colins made a good point,,the corrison factor is a big issue with our kayak fishing,,will are fully servicing the reels once a month,,being right on the waters not to good for them.
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SteveB could answer this better
But I think I read somewhere that Banax is the only reel manufacturer with international ISO quality control certification.
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At the end of the day, the
At the end of the day, the best opinion will be your own.
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And how big your budget is
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Banax GT 5000
Guys
Just a quick note in response to Hobie suggesting the " roller bearing has failed on more than a few occasions". The Banax GT5000 does not have a roller bearing in it. Maybe we should all take what a Shimano sponsored fisherman says with a grain of salt. Take a look at the Banax reels and make up your own mind, we are very proud of our product, especially because of the quality, durability and value it represents.
Yes Colin Banax is only one of a few reel manufacturers to be awarded an ISO 9001 certificate for manufacturing standards.
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Hrmmm, no roller bearing, now that puts a spanner in the works doesnt it...
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Ah well we all know what a
Ah well we all know what a line roller is, bearing or not
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awkwid
well this thread just took an awkwid turn , research is always helpfull i think
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As of last nite, Albee is
As of last nite, Albee is the new owner of a Banax GT5000 loaded with 50lb braid and a suitable rod to go with. Now we'll just have to see how he goes with it.
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HONSU!!
Christ mate shhhhhhh, my missus might read this.......
It all seriousness, as im totally anal about reel maintenance, i stripped the Banax down to the last screw and bearing last night, and fully rebuilt it with a decent amount of grease, and silicon lubed all the bearings etc. There are very few reels these day that come straight out of the box with enough grease. I did notice the brass bush on the roller bearing, but whipped out the micrometer and have my man looking for a bearing replacement. The reel appears solidly built, and i was impressed with the quality of machining, as i was with the si reels when i pulled them down.
On a reel like this, a good greasing certainly "tighten" them up, and will go a long way to increasing there longevity.
We shall see how it goes.
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Bloody hell Brett
I'm impressed with your expeditious dilligence
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good stuff albee all the
good stuff albee all the best with the reel
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Watch out Pinkies
Hope the reel does everyhthing you want of it Brett.
"I did notice the brass bush on the roller bearing, but whipped out the micrometer and have my man looking for a bearing replacement." You stirring there Brett?
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Nah mate
I'm sure the roller will be okay, but i have found on previous reels i have owned, if there is no bearing in the line roller, and it does get under heavy load, it only takes a tiny bit of salt and it can stop spinning. If i can get a small bearing to replace the brass bush, i will, it just takes a few measurements, and a good search. I have heard from another source that they have one, and whilst it goes well, they have noticed this too. No harm in a small mod to make it go better.
Besides, i love getting my Micrometer out...
Also: SteveB, i sent you a PM regarding carbontex washers, have you guys ever done a mod like this with the line roller? Reply plz.
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The poor Snapper have no
The poor Snapper have no chance now
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Hi Number 3
Are you upgrading to another yak?
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Yes the Malibu has been sold
Yes the Malibu has been sold due in part to long standing shoulders problems with which all these trips are not helping.
So i will be getting a Hobie Adventure and can Peddle out to the Snapper grounds yakking on the phone in one hand and a drink in the other,,,just like Albee
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Hi,I know this is a VERY OLD
Hi,
I know this is a VERY OLD post, but did the Banax GT Extreme survive? Manage to replace the line roller with bearing? I am just curious when I Google about this reel and found this old post
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Not bad reels Ive still got a
Not bad reels Ive still got a GT5000 i use. Bit old and clinky now but its seen a few fish!
Bend over
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Banax Extreme GT6000
I will own a GT6000 in a week time, hope I can replace the line roller with a proper bearing. Of cource I don't expect a 30kg drag from this reel, but at least 15-20kg will be good enough to get the job done.
How long you owned the GT5000 Jim? Thanks.
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Had it since they came out.
Had it since they came out. Good luck with the new reel.
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Banax Extreme GT6000
I hope the reel will also seen a few decent fish. Thanks Jim.