Beach Fishing Attacked by Dog
I was fishing at North Foreat - Hale Rd area on Saturday morning minding my own business and from out of nowhere i got hit at speed in the knee by a pit bull looking dog. There were people and dozen of dogs all over the beach. I yelled in sharp pain to my inside knee and i am very concened that i may have ligiment damage xrays ultrsound and off work. The owner of the dog said nothing, no appoligie and after a quick mouthfull of expletives fom me he quickly ran away with his three dogs. Not one person on the beach and there where dozens arround came to ask if i was ok?
I was left in shocked that this out of control unlieshed dog has caused me a great deal of pain. I dont how much damage has been done to my knee? Have we gone to far letting the dogs and ther owners take over our beaches. I love all animals and its great to seem swim and have fun but is it safe anymore? I wil never go to that beach or any other in Perth to go beach fishing again. Scabourough to Brighton beach is now owned by the surfers. Brighton to Floreat by the dogs and there owners. Only leaves City Beach South to Swanbourne before you hit onother dog beach.
Jewskip
uncle
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Yeah out of control
Like the one who attacked the horse at hillarys. Owners and dogs should be put in pound. You should be safe on the beach.
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Faulkner Family
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not good at all. some dog
not good at all. some dog owners certainly dont take responsability for their dogs actions. makes the responsible ones think twice about taking their dogs to the beach. hope the knee will be ok. not good the dogs owner took off like that
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Jim
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No good mate. Hope all comes
No good mate. Hope all comes good for ya. Nothing worse than minding your own business and getting attacked.
Bend over
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attacked or accidentally crashed into?
attacked or accidentally crashed into?
meglodon
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Dogs are not the problem
Owners are the problem, licencing dogs cats etc is not the way to control the problem. have the owners licenced and the owners details attached to the animals collar. That way when the animal attacks you and you take affirmative action to stop the attack immediately and permanently. You can then remove the collar and have the owners details at hand and then pursue civil action to have the owner loose his privilege to own pets and secure substantial financial restitution from the animals owner for pain and suffering as well as on going fear of animals.
Owner and lover of dogs.
uncle
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Ohh and the dog that attacked the horse
Willallow this will it
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meglodon
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Not quite sure what you are trying to tell me
I believe that the first sentence of my post expresses my view on those animals/beasts or whatever's that cause pain, suffering, alarm or fear to others should be dealt with to bring such action to an immediate and permanent end.
The owners of such should be dealt with in a manner that will cause such owner to reflect long and hard about their lack of control over their pets and the subsequent monetary loss such abdication of responsibility has caused
dano83
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Not condoning the owner he
Not condoning the owner he should of come to your aid and apologised.. but If fishing at a dog beach you should be aware that dogs are running around unleashed on a skinny stretch of beach and should be aware of your surroundings...and if ran into your legs by accident it's pretty poor form to say you have been attacked,
I had a 65 kg Boerboel beautiful dog...She would accidentally knock ppl over if she ran towards them for a pat or just playing around with her sometimes she could knock you over. Just big clumsy dog they aren't very agile. But if she'd had knocked someone over I definitely would of went to aid and offer any assistance.that's called responsible dog ownership, People need to take responsibility all situations the dog is involved in, no matter where they are.
MJ
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Serious?
You had a 65kg dog that is clumsy and not agile and sometimes knocks people over and you are OK to take her to a dog beach and have ppl deal with the potential consequences?
dano83
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It's a dog beach mate 90% of
It's a dog beach mate 90% of dogs will do that
and it would be very rare that she ran off and into somebody...maybe only a couple times in her life.... but yeah it can happen and if it did I would offer assistance and an apology but mostly it would be because she's getting revered up and playing with friends and family not a random person on the beach.
obviously not a dog owner
Swompa
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Attacked or run into? My
Attacked or run into?
My dog does it to us all the time. See gets excited and runs and it is up to us to get out of the way. Yeah it hurts but it is far from an attack.
Sorry that you got hurt though you are at one of the very rare spots where dogs can run around and have fun on the beach.
quadfisher
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Beach risks?
I am sorry to hear of your injury mate , lets hope its just buising etc and not something bad.
I reguarly take the whippet to dog beachs , and although he runs around like a fool ( or a dog ? ) sometimes, he also has
good eyes and fast reflexs so he has never really hit anyone.
But as people have said off the leash dog areas are limited , and any activity involving animals comes with some risk.
Over the years I have seen kids scatched by cats at friends places , horses bang into people in freo streets accidently ( mounted cops) ,
and people get bit by fish , occys ,crays , squid etc etc.
When walking the dog I have come across people on marked , well signposted, off the leash areas that are scared by dogs , and wish no contact with them ,,,,,,,,,,,
go figure?
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quadfisher
West Coast
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Good luck.
Take your life into your own hands trying to fish that section of beach....especially on a perfect morning of a 40C day. That beach is a free for all...and yes the dogs do own that section of beach.
rob90
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Drive north a half hour and
Drive north a half hour and enjoy better fishing and less people, hope the injury heals up.
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Hairyone
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Maybe just an accident
As a person who regularly beach fishes with a dog I can see two sides here.
Firstly , I hope your knee isnt too bad, but dont let it deter you from fishing......
I personaly dont have the issue with having to go to a dog specific beach, as I can usually find somewhere quiet with no one else around, and I do feel sorry for pet owners who dont have that luxury.....but I suppose thats part of living in a city?
I dont think you can really call it an attack, but rather an unfortunate accident which could happen anywhere, not just a dog beach? Could have been a kid playing frisbee run into you which I doubt anyone would class as a kid attack?
I have a 2 1/2 year old Blue Heeler named "Dozer" and hes a Bulldozer by nature as well.....he wouldnt hurt anyone intentionaly , but if your in between him and his ball in flight , your gone! For that reason I wouldnt throw the ball in a crowded area.....
Ive also seen dogs mistake someone casting out a bait for someone throwing a ball too, and even the best trained dogs can react without notice if their owner wasnt aware of you casting, if that was the case???
I dont know the situation, and would expect a responsible dog owner to see if you were ok, but if your first reaction was to " quick mouthfull of expletives" there reaction to take off might have been waranted too? Might be wrong , but it sounds like you didnt give him/her a chance to appologise?
Just put it down to an unfortunate accident, go to the Drs and make sure youre ok, and if your not a dog lover, avoid the dog beaches....
Hope you pull up alright
Cheers
Skull
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You would think
You would think that if as suggested above, the dog merely ran into Superfish
Why didn't the owneer offer an apology, suggest to Superfish that the dog is a big baby who just loves people and was playing?
Would be nothing for the owner to be concerned about if this was the case, he and Superfish could have discussed the issue and alll would have been good, now the dog through the ignorance of the owner is free to do the same to another unsuspecting person or another animal.
Personally I don't agree with the reasoning or suggestion that the dog may have ran into Superfish.
Hopefully you get better soon and not too much damage done.
Skull
uncle
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I was snorkling at hillarys
Sometime ago 20 metres off the shore line when a dog had swam out and scratched my leg, my fault i suppose.
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the_lane
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Quite simply, dangerous dogs
Quite simply, dangerous dogs should not be allowed off the lead in a public place.
Dangerous dogs being:
1. Breeds that are bred for stength or agression and especially any dog with lock jaws - eg. Pitbulls, Staffs, Rotweilers
2. Dogs with a history of agressive behaviour
I do not understand why anybody needs to own a staff or a pitbull. If you want to play down the park with your dog; get a cocker spaniel.
If you want a guard dog, leave the thing at home.
tot
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Staff?
wtf - Staffs (English) are probably the least dangerous dog I have known. Misconception to the max to say they are dangerous - IMO..
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the_lane
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Lol. I'm from the UK. EVERY
Lol.
I'm from the UK. EVERY time there was a fight in the dog park it was a staff. I had to try and get one to let go of a jack russells neck. Impossible, jaws locked. Jack died.
In Freo, I have spoken to 4 people recently who have had dogs attacked. All by Staffs. My own dog was attacked by 2 staffs at the beach earlier this year.
Lovely dogs to their family; horrbile dogs in a park. Will defend any perceived threat to their owner at all costs.
The breed should be banned.
And don't give me the whole 'its not the dogs, its the owner'. Thats just the arguement stupid americans use to justify having guns.
nightfish
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Lockjaw
FYI no dog of any breed has a mechanism to lock its jaws together a very well documented myth.
carnarvonite
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Quick Release
My black lab got in a blue with a staffy from across the road, staffy latched onto the upper part of Lab's front leg and wouldn't let go even squirted it with a hose. Gave it an enema with the hose full on, talk about quick release.
Never ventured bover to our side of the road and its owner wasn't too pleased with a big vet bill to stitch up his leg
dano83
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Little yap yap dogs can
Little yap yap dogs can also do more damage and are just or more agressive than most those dogs you speak off. The reason I bought my dog is I want my family to feel safe whilst I'm not at home working nights or away on fishing trips. I did a shitload of research and got a breed with a excellent temperament 10 years I had that dog everyone loved her, was so friendly and placid she would only be alarmed if I was . Though I do agree some breeds are more agressive and should not be in the wrong hands.
the_lane
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No, little yap dogs can't do
No, little yap dogs can't do more damage that a dog specifically bred to lock its jaws and kill.
hezzy
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, i love dogs and we have
, i love dogs and we have several
i love to beach fish and do it as often as possible
thing is even on '' off the leash dog designated beaches '' it is still the dog owners responsibility to CONTROL their dog at all times .. the off the leash area is not a free for all hands free area that owners can just let the dog go where it will annoy , jump at or intrude /attack into other beach users space
those designated places are still shared public places where people have all rights to not be impacted by an off the leash dog if they dont want to have your dog in close contact , wether there fishing walking or whatever
its the dog owners responsibility to control their animal on those shared beaches or spaces at all times ... if they cant then the dog needs to be on the leash simple as that , and thats the usual council by laws in most places
we always keep our dogs on a leash ,when other dogs are around simply because we have had so many experiences in the last 5years or so of other owners dogs not being controlled and just rushing in at our dogs ,aggressivly jumping up on my wife,etc etc last new years day she and one of our pedigree pugs where attacked by two of the leash large dogs that where uncontrolled , the owner fled , my wife was knocked to the ground and our dog had extensive bit wounds to her neck and hind back quarters, ..vet billls ran to about $800, neighbours heard my wife screaming in our local park as she tried to defend herself and our dog, the other bloke bolted with his dogs , never to be seen ,it left both my wife and our dog very traumatised when around bigger dogs .. this is a very common thing .. according to the vets,, and is on the increase
beach fishing have had the same thing many times, where bigger dogs have stuck there heads into the bucket or burely or tried to jump/bite the lure or blob on my rig as im casting or jump in an swim in the burley trail to catch it as im retrieving it at waters edge ..
these ocurrences are not often but in last few years are becoming more frequent ,,and are really farkign annoying ...so id say to all dog owners if you cant control your dog in off leash areas , which are also shared public spaces , then dont let them off , or at least take responsibility for them ..your dog should not be a nuisance to others ,,,even if not attacking them
hezzy
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meglodon
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Well said Hezzy
Right on the money
Willlo
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Hezzy ive found that if you
Hezzy ive found that if you have your dogs on a lead on an off lead beach then the natural curiosity of most dogs means they will end up heading over to the dog on lead . Sometimes the dog on lead will get protective of its owner and thats when the shit hits the fan. Its a pet hate of mine get the pun , when i come across people with leads on , on an off leash area. Much better if the dog has to be on a lead then walk it in i on lead areas. Luckily i have a border collie thats more like a shadow and is more easily controlled off lead. All that said it does come down to the owner showing some common sense and responsibility , after all they should know their dog . Ive noticed that there is noyt a lot of common sense around any more sadly.
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hezzy
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willo , usually ime , it has
willo , usually ime , it has been one of two experiences , either the dog that is off the lead approaches us and is friendly , happy, tail wagging and wants to lick you to death while it pees on your leg , or they are rushers, that want to be aggressive and jump on us or the dogs and wont piss off when asked or told to , there owners are quite often the same , i would love a dollar for every time i have been told there not aggressive and they wont hurt you but the owners cant control them and they wont leave when called etc ..
so for us if we are in public places the dogs are on the lead unless there are no other dogs around , that way we can control them when other dogs are not controlled , and remove them from any threat quickly and easily
it may sound a bit unwarranted , but our dogs are pedigree and worth thousands , so we just dont put them at risk anymore when out and about
hezzy
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uncle
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Hammer, nail
It wont be long before all dogs will need leashes and muzzles
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D_d_001
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SUPERFISH : any chance you
SUPERFISH : any chance you can dispel all the bullshit and actually let us know whether the dog attacked you aggressively (bit you) or if it was just some fucking accident.
Sorry tried my best not to comment on this tread but just could not help myself. In my opinion if the dog latched onto you agressively then this is a worthy debate if a dog accidentally crashed into you while playing then it is what it is an accident (disclaimer fo uncle: not withstanding the actions of the owner afterwords)
davewillo
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Agreed but either way an
Agreed but either way an apology from the owner was in order. Lucky my little 10kg fluffball couldn't knock anyone over!
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still trying
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I had a friend with a
I had a friend with a rotweiler he had his dog tied to the front verandah in Kalamunda as it was in the shade a lady walked past on the road with a pram something must have startled the dog and it ran at her the lead broke and it ran right up to her barking never attacked her just scared the crap out of her. She made a report to the ranger totally fair enough and my friend was fined $200 the forms called it a mental attack. This was 10 years ago at least.
rather be fishing
Jackfrost80
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My brother got suspended in
My brother got suspended in footy for throwing a punch that didn't land!
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
D_d_001
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Quite a lot that is against
Quite a lot that is against to law to "attempt" to do even if you don't get away with it.
Superfish
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update
Lets get this straight. The 25 to 30 kg out of control dog barrelled into me and has injured my Medial ligament on the inside of my knee. Went to the doctors Yesterday and he has sent me for a ultrasound and I am off work in pain and pissed right off. I go on leave on Friday cant exersize as planned cant go out fishing in my own boat without a great deal of pain. To top it off have allready spent $75 on doctors appointment plus $40 for a knee support from the chemist. May need surgery including a $500 MRI. Thank you to all the guys that understand why i am a touch bitter. Put yourself in the same position and how you feel? Will update on the injury once i get the ultrasound results.
Jewskip
Jackfrost80
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Hope the knee heels up quick
Hope the knee heels up quick mate and no surgery required.
If it gives you any comfort, I was out in the boat in calm water 6 days after fully rupturing my ACL and 2x meniscus playing footy after the swelling died down and headed out 14mile in a 1.7m swell and 12kn NE a week later... had a reco the week after that which kept me out for 5 months.
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D_d_001
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OK so I assume from what you
OK so I assume from what you didn't say that the dog "accidentally" barrelled into you and not "attacked" you. (let me know if I'm wrong) Accidents happen but I wouldn't like to see every dog put on a leash muzzeled and hobbled everywhere in public because accidents happen.
having said that I don't think anyone here would disagree that the idiot who just pissed off with out apologising and giving details did the wrong thing.
and def hope all goes well with recovery. Don't let it put you off fishing at the beach.
Da pirate
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Accident..
Well that clears it all up .. a accident...
and accidents happen.. but what's it got
too do with fishing ... ???
Marineboy
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Pirate
happened whilst he was fishing, not sure that warrants fishing discussion though !
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
Superfish
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I was fishing at the time
This may or may not have been an accident how the hell can you say say it was an accident. Some dogs just like there irrisponsible owners should not be let lose in public. I am just saying the dog was out of control. If this happened on the street and i had this dog owners name i would be pursuing legal action to at least cover my medical costs and pain and suffering.
Jewskip
Da pirate
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Unfortunate !!
Buddy !! Unfortunate it is .. and you got bowled over
by dog when you were fishing! Does it warrant a whole
thread about it on a fishing forum ! You just go shit
happens and move on is the Australian way !! You've
received plenty of sympathy !! Accidents happen ! Just
don't see what all the commotion is about !! Rest up
mate give it bit of time and you ll be good too go !!
uncle
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Yet your here
Twice
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Da pirate
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Ha ha .. 3 times .
Got me uncle .. 3 times..
SeperateKnob
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This is a good healthy
This is a good healthy discussion about what can happen whilst fishing. Any recommendations on how people can deal with rogue dogs? I’m clueless as I’ve never had one
Deleted
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stay inside, dont turn your
stay inside, dont turn your back, dont enjoy life, yell at people and expect an apology, dont fish and dont go to beach, parks or outside in general.
Curndog
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What Gilly said. Shit
What Gilly said. Shit happens
Swompa
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Make sure you don't have the
Make sure you don't have the bubble wrap too tight as it may become a choking hazard.
Lastchance
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Spot on Gilly, and stay away
Spot on Gilly, and stay away from those ferocious Staffy's. Is that bloke for real?
Da pirate
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Help ..
Come on fellas I need help too start a
go fund me page for super fish at least
we could raise enough for a box of chocolates
and some flowers ..
SeperateKnob
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That’s 4 now Da Pirat
That’s 4 now Da Pirat
Dreamtime
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Cockhead
YOU are an absolute fool. Maybe you should be put to a permanent end after such trauma!
Superfish
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LAST POST
To many uneducated wankers
Jewskip
Darren253
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Seems like there may be some
Seems like there may be some "nerve" damage too
Hope you recover quickly!
Da pirate
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Well ...
Well I'm uneducated ? And I like too
wank so where does that leave me
buddy !!!
davewillo
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Too funny! Hahaha
Too funny! Hahaha
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Jackfrost80
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Still searching through the
Still searching through the Newsagent's skip bin for porno mags? Those were the days lol
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
sea-kem
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Or the tip lol
Or the tip lol
Love the West!
sea-kem
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Another quality thread with
Another quality thread with great input lol.
Love the West!
Willlo
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LOL , moral of the story
LOL , moral of the story dont fish on a dog beach . you are likely to come across a dog surprise surprise . On a serious note hope you get better quick mate , same thing happened to me and i know of other people its happened to as well , all dog owners funnily enough .
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