Best bait & rig for whiting recently - sand and KG

What have people been using for whiting recently with the most success?

 

With all this bloody wind recently on weekends I might have to admit defeat with going out wide and try fishing in close a bit more often.

 

Have heard ox heart, squid and prawns before, but have actually never specifically targetted whiting so am a complete novice.

Is a paternoster with v small hooks the go? Or more a running sinker down to a single hook?

 

Any info appreciated, might head out on the weekend.

 

Dan

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 for sand whiting - little

Fri, 2011-02-11 10:40

 

for sand whiting - little bits of prawn

 

for kg - fresh dangly squid bits

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whiting

Fri, 2011-02-11 11:06

if its sand whiting you are after the best place i have found in close is about 200m off city beach groyne , just anchor and berley with chook pellets and they will soon come to you , they start small usually then after 1/2 hr or so the big ones normally come on we use a small paternoster with long shank hooks and any of the baits you mention will work, if its king george you are after the most reliable inshore spot is in cockburn sound and youll need to move around the weed beds/sand till you find them for the kgs a running sinker can work well and fresh squid is the gun bait.. cheers

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whiting...

Fri, 2011-02-11 11:36

Sand whiting

Bait - coral prawns & squid

Rig - Patternoster drifting rig with #10 or #12 chemically sharpened longshank. Swivel sinker bomb weight.

Location - Swanborne in close.

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Inshore KG's

Bait - local ocky/coral prawns/squid

Rig - Patternoster drifting rig with #6 or #8 chemically sharpened longshank. Swivel sinker bomb weight. If your onto a patch of fish then anchoring is a good way and patternoster works well but you can use the running ball sinker rig also.

Location - Windmills, further out from Swanborne & Cockburn Sound.

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windmills? is that off rotto?

Fri, 2011-02-11 12:52

windmills? is that off rotto?

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yes....

Sat, 2011-02-12 08:21

yes....

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Can't beat some freshly

Fri, 2011-02-11 13:10

Can't beat some freshly caught squid legs on some long shank hooks.. 2 hooks with a running sinker is my preferred rig. Those whiting are greedy and will most often swallow the bait deep so the long shanks help! Plagues of them just on the inside of the FFB in 20m. Just gotta drift around till you find the bigger ones.

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rigs

Fri, 2011-02-11 13:21

we went out from woodmans point on wednesday and caught a good feed of decent sand whiting in about 20 metres of water past carnac island,got heaps of undersize flathead as well,we just used squid and blue sardines just a spoon sinker on bottom with a few droppers above with single long shank hooks about no4 worked great

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 Yeah how many little

Fri, 2011-02-11 13:24

 Yeah how many little flathead are out there! Spikey little things!!!

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Cheers all Ill give it a

Fri, 2011-02-11 15:30

Cheers all

 

Ill give it a crack and post some results (unless I catch bugger all, then ill pretend I never went)

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Sand Whiting

Fri, 2011-02-11 15:57

We have always used Ox Heart as sand whiting bait on a paternoster rig- Ox Heart was pretty easy to get when Doug Clegg was around - as he used to tell everyone to use it and the butchers around his shop would keep it in stock. but a bit harder now - I generally order it in from the local butchers. We also fished around City Beach - Hale Road but gave that area away some years back when some professionals were working the area. (They've obviously been moved on now though). At certain times of the year they are in close at other times there out in 15 -20m, but the size of the whiting were getting smaller so looked further afield. Windmills has already been mentioned but you'll also find them anywhere over sand & flat bottom around Rotto and up towards Mindarie- just use your sounder - give it a try - If they are small keep moving until you find the bigger ones and there are big sand whiting about. The best ones we get now are out in 30 -40m. 

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ox heart and paternoster for

Sat, 2011-02-12 00:02

ox heart and paternoster for me too ox heart is definately harder to get with the demise of the local butcher

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Sand Whiting

Fri, 2011-02-11 15:57

We have always used Ox Heart as sand whiting bait on a paternoster rig- Ox Heart was pretty easy to get when Doug Clegg was around - as he used to tell everyone to use it and the butchers around his shop would keep it in stock. but a bit harder now - I generally order it in from the local butchers. We also fished around City Beach - Hale Road but gave that area away some years back when some professionals were working the area. (They've obviously been moved on now though). At certain times of the year they are in close at other times there out in 15 -20m, but the size of the whiting were getting smaller so looked further afield. Windmills has already been mentioned but you'll also find them anywhere over sand & flat bottom around Rotto and up towards Mindarie- just use your sounder - give it a try - If they are small keep moving until you find the bigger ones and there are big sand whiting about. The best ones we get now are out in 30 -40m. 

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I use a paternoster for my

Fri, 2011-02-11 16:37

I use a paternoster for my sand whiting (no kg's yet). I was sick of whiting swallowing even long shank hooks (or bending when trying to take the whiting off) so now I use small circle hooks which work really well. I think they are the owner mutu lights (about size 6). Work really well for the hookup, easy to take the whiting off and last longer too.

For bait, I like fresh squid tentacles (caught myself). Stays on the hook for ages. Tried ox heart from a fishing shop but didnt stay on as long and more messy. Didnt seem to catch any more whiting at the spots I tried it on (lots at those spots though).

I have a collapsable bucket with a mesh lid which I put some ice water in, then use on of those dehooker tools to drop the whiting straight in (pull the line down and flick of the wrist and they're off, especially with 0 gut hooked whiting). Saves a fair bit of time instead of mucking around with pliers trying to get the hook out, sliming up your hands then having to open the esky each time.Slurrying them makes it a lot easier to scale/fillet later too. Scaler bags work well otherwise if you use them right.

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catch some squid, then catch

Fri, 2011-02-11 19:26

catch some squid, then catch the whiting, then eat whats left of the squid and the whiting!

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the best bait

Fri, 2011-02-11 20:07

 for whiting is whiting catch your first one then cut it up for bait!! cheaper than any other bait and works as good if not better

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fresh squid

Sat, 2011-02-12 19:04

I agree with the other blokes, jig up some squid and use it fresh for sand whiting. I usually launch at Hillary's so out to the weed beds first. Then off to city beach. That place has always been a winner for me. Great spot to get a feed of tasty whiting and at the end you can eat the bait too! If I'm in a hurry and looking to get a bucket of live bait whiting before moving on we use a coat hanger tied to main line with 3 short leaders and long shank gamakatsu hooks tied to it. No further sinker required. I think that's still legal? I'm going to take hlokk's advice on the small circles though.