Best Ute's
Submitted by adamsmith84 on Tue, 2009-11-10 17:26
My parents are looking to buy a new ute (4wd Diesel) and wondered if anyone has a Toyota hilux, Mitsubishi Trition (MN or ML), or Isuzu D-max if anyone has one could you tell me about it.
Davy_G
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bet you want to buy a triton
bet you want to buy a triton David, you love them so much
TAPOUT
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Go a Navara. Heaps better
Go a Navara. Heaps better than any of them
adamsmith84
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Which one?
Which navara d22 or d40
Dave Sceresini
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Nissan Navara all the way.
Nissan Navara all the way. We have 3 in our family, the old man, brother and myself. Best 4b by far
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Have a dmax dual cab am very
Have a dmax dual cab am very happy with it
HuggyB
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I've had
a Hilux, Colorado, Rodeo, D-Max and Triton - all diesel, all 4WD except the Rodeo (but almost identical to the Colorado).
For me, I'd buy a Hilux.
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Nelly
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Food for thought
For me to get an equivalently specced hilux to the same as my dmax would have been 13k more than i payed is really worth 13k more?Doubt it
HuggyB
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its all relative
For me, a company car so it was 30% less.
But whether its $13k better is up to the individual - for me I think it is. I'd rather pay more for (IMO) a better car.
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Andy
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utes
I have just bought a d-max. just a single cab 4x4. did want to by a hilux but was not going to pay 10k extra for one. i am happy with the d-max good power and good on fuel. i carry a 600kg toolbox on the tray and tow a 750kg trailer around 1000km a week. i also like the tray hight of the d-max compared to the hilux.
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scotto
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hilux
hilux, hilux, hilux.
hilux hilux, hilux hilux hilux.
hilux.
adamsmith84
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Unbreakable Hilux
I very do much like hilux's not because of there looks or accessories i like them because they have one the best engines and are one of the most unbreakable utes because we still have a 25 year old hilux and it's had no rebuild or major repair and its still going strong.
DhuBoi
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screw navara , toyota
screw navara , toyota hilux's are way better ! toyota in general is a better vehicle !
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adamsmith84
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It's true
I have to agree with you. I think the navara d22 is bad now that they've put a new 2.5 Liter Turbo diesel in and now it only has 98Kw
Davy_G
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talkin about hilux has
talkin about hilux
has anyone seen what the top gear boys did to try and destroy a hilux a couple of years back!
best tv i have seen in a while
adamsmith84
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HAH!
Lets see a ferrari or any sports car beat that. That just shows you how toyota design's there cars.
couldntcatchacold
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Haha was that the red one,
Haha was that the red one, they drowned, dropped a wrecking ball on and demolished a building while it was on top and got it started everytime without replacing anything?
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Davy_G
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yep thats the one
yep thats the one
couldntcatchacold
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Haha yeh best episode ever
Haha yeh best episode ever imo!
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adamsmith84
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still have one
we still have the same type they tested but we have one in white and a 2.4 litre petrol engine.
Goodz
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Hilux *nods*
Hilux *nods*
DazSamFishing
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navara over hilux for me. I
navara over hilux for me. I like both though... I've had a bt50 sdx... they are also worth considering.
jono.s
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ive got a hilux and it is a
ive got a hilux and it is a great car very reliable and good on fuel and good offroad id recomend it but another option is a ford ranger we have these at work and they are pretty good utes lots of power and pretty reliable we towed a big trailer with a few tonnes of gear. all the way to broome 4200 kms in 6 days and had no problems with it.
TAPOUT
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All depends on how much you
All depends on how much you want to spend. For the price of a Navara you wont find a better 4+4 in its price range and you would be suprised at how much power the 2.5 turbo diesels put out and the fuel economy is unreal. Go the Hilux if you have the money I driven heaps of them and think there way overated personally.
adamsmith84
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Toyota
Were considering a SR dual cab but they are a bit expensive 45 grand with an alloy tray.
TAPOUT
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just curious but did they do
just curious but did they do the same stuff to other cars to compare on top gear.
Tony Halliday
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just had a isuzu D-max in
just had a isuzu D-max in Thailand and it was a dream to drive. I also always had isuzu's in Africa and we had them as farm utes. Tough as nails.
My first choice would be a Hilux (if money was not an issue), but value for money on a spec for spec basis, it's hard to beat the Isuzu D-max.
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adamsmith84
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New Trition
Anyone seen and heard of the new trition or better if you have one. but its very good now on the GLX-R how it has traction control and a rear diff lock STANDED.
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Yeah I've got a new GLXR
Yeah I've got a new GLXR Triton 2.5 ltr turbo diesel. Top car, I use it to beach launch the quinnie which weighs about 800kg no probs. Also tow a tandem trailer around for work plenty of grunt. A fella I know has the new Ranger and he reckons it's the dogs bollocks. I think you have to compare price and power output these days as most of the mid range are pretty good cars.
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Faulkner Family
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got to agree with TAPOUT,
got to agree with TAPOUT, hilux are overpriced and why do you think they got the nickname rolux?, the navara 3ltr td has heaps of power towing a boat loaded at a weight of around 3tonne, no probs and still got in excess of 450 to the tank cruising on 90kmh. also they have a wider wheel track than the hilux and longer hub to hub, had one and very reluctantly had to sell it. the dx model can tow 3tonne the str 2.8tonne
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scotto
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whoa?
pish posh faulkners.
navara is a poor mans hilux.
i work for a major construction company, and our fleet is loaded to the hilt with nearly every new 4wd ute in the market (navaras, hiluxs, tritons, rangers, colarados, rodeos, etc), and i've driven every one of them.
the 4L v6 petrol hilux pisses on all of them, second only to the 3L turbo deisel hilux.
my 4L petrol hilux pulls my loaded boat on tandom trailer at 110kmph, and i still get 500 to the tank in 4th gear (its a 5 speed auto), and is awesome off road, even with the pizza cutter tyres they supply with them.
HuggyB
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90km/h?
when did you get it up to that? Didn't notice a lot of downhill sections.....
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Faulkner Family
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ha ha ha , we had to pay for
ha ha ha , we had to pay for our fuel unlike you in your rental car
, and yes we did as a matter of fact and we did get over 100 too
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mako magic
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was that on the way home
was that on the way home when the boat was on the back of the tow truck
Faulkner Family
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yeah yeah yeah, funny fellow
yeah yeah yeah, funny fellow arent you Matt. did the speed a couple of times but i think we were a bit overloaded this year, next trip we will be travelling a fair bit lighter. a couple less freezers and prob less kids too
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NOHA
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100kph
Yeah, last trip back pulling nearly 3 tonne my towing machine did a 100 a couple of times..........when I slowed right down coming into towns.....LOL
The biggest thing to watch for with these utes, and the reason I didnt get one, is comfort. Both for the driver and any backseat passengers. Try and sit someone 6ft in the back. If their knees aren't jammed up in the back of the drivers seat then their head is touching the roof.
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Brucesta
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I drive a hilux for work, a
I drive a hilux for work, a new one too and i don't rate them as good as the old school ones, the 2.8L diesel ones where unstoppable, new ones are a bit sluggish when they take a beating clutch went at 50K. Probably not worth the extra money but then again you really can't beat the Toyota ruggedness.
Dunno about D Max owners but we have a 2wd T/D rodeo and man that thing revs hard in 5th gear pulling almost 3K at 100km/h, but very torquey off the line
I have heard good things about the tritons too, plenty of power and comfy as well
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damo6230
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have a turbo hilux myself
before that a 2.8 hilux.
strong dependable vehicles but yeh you pay the $$. Living and working out bush in the NT for many years all work vehicles were toyota. Those troopies are bullet proof.....
but considering the market these days and the marked difference in price I would look at getting something else if I replace the hilux.
would look at the triton first then mazda bravo then the space cab navara then probably the ford. but triton first after having (partneres car) a pajero.
at the end of the day no car ever roles itself....its the driver. learn how to operate and drive sensible off road and you wont have a problem!
scere_182
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It's more up to what you the
It's more up to what you the driver prefers really... like damo said its the driver that makes the car what it is when offroad...
any of the utes above mentioned will perform on/offroad if you know what youre doing.
I can vouch for the D40 have been very reliable offroad and great economy onroad.
Plus they look awesome
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The_Wanderer
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The old man has a Hilux
The old man has a Hilux extra cab. We chose it over the Navara as it felt smoother and the fact we have had Toyota's for years- they have never missed a beat. At the end of the day Get your parents to drive them all, then buy the one that feels the best and suits their needs.
PM me if you would like to know anything more about the hilux.
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Paul_86
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ford ranger
anybody else out there got 1? ive had a ranger for 2 years now and love it. goes better then my mates new navara and my old mans 07 ti patrol. its got heaps of torque and is awsome for towing. is pretty quick off the mark for a diesel too. the only thing i can fault on it is that it does not come standard with a LSD. cant say its better then a hilux tho as i havnt driven or been up against 1 off road before (beat a few taken off from the traffic lights tho ;))
Kingfisher549
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Rodeo value
Have a Dual Cab Rodeo cant fault the vehicles ability on the beach. the price over the Toyota makes it a much cheaper option and does the same job. had a Triton for many years and the turning circle is huge. What ever the purchase make it a diesel
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HuggyB
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This brand debate is a bit like sounders
You can use a northstar (colorado/triton/navara/BT50 etc) - its cheaper than the other options and it does an OK job.
But at the end of the day, if you want a quality unit like a furuno (hilux) you pay the premium because it is better.
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adamsmith84
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True
thats true
Ozzy
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Hey Huggy B what about
My new ISUZU 4X4 I am currently building, It should be able to pull a Hilux in Half HE HE .
mako magic
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plenty of storage for a
plenty of storage for a summer supply of chicken salt in that thing ozzy
HuggyB
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Needs a few things
decent set of 20" rims, a candy apple red paint job, gold plated bull bar.
You know, standard bling......
Should be a cracker, significantly bigger than this years version?
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Faulkner Family
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are you looking at tantas
are you looking at tantas this year with a monster 4x4, you putting the new house on that one i presume. gunna be a humdinger
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Ozzy
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Yep It's the All Tide Tantas 4B
It,s the New Donor Truck for the Camper Body,I have already fitted the Super Singles,Custom Fabricated Sprung Chassis Mounts and Suspension Mods etc, I am currently building the tray and fitting the usual acc one fits to a 4B.
My second choice a HILUX wouldn’t support the 20ft removable camper body and tow the Mongrel Cheers OzLucky Tim
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gonna look the goods Oz.
gonna look the goods Oz. Have you offloaded the old one yet?
Ozzy
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Hey Tim,Yep
its gone,shouldnt have any traction probs with the new one,BTW how's it going in sunny Perth.
Cheers Oz
HuggyB
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At the rate you are going Oz
you'll be driving a Kenworth in 2012.
Sticking with Mongrel II for now, or planning to change that as well?
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Ozzy
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Ha Ha Huggy
It wont be a Kenworth will be an 4WD MAN
I have started the project for the end of 2011,I need the bigger truck for all my Electric Reels LOL
Dale
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Looking the goods Oz,
Looking the goods Oz, something I've got in mind for sometime sooner or later
Cheers
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Lucky Tim
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it's actually alright to be
it's actually alright to be back at the moment, however we're heading back to Ex and Karratha for a week on Tuesday. I'm sure on returning after that it will sink in....
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Least you will have cray
Least you will have cray season to enjoy Tim!
Faulkner Family
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you do have a serious
you do have a serious problem with that truck mate, ,,,,,,, it needs a paint job. it wont match the banana crocs
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Kingfisher549
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Which 4wd
Harsh HuggyB Many people up this way using Rodeos on the beach and have no trouble. Are u paying for the badge or reliability? Think in many cases you are paying for the name.
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HuggyB
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I used to think the same
until I got one.
no comparison.....
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Shorty
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I have bad news for Hilux
I have bad news for Hilux fans i heard yesterday from my mechanic that they make them in Taiwan now and he has heard nothing but complaints about them, if anybody wants a Hilux get 2nd hand.
HuggyB
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doubtful
pretty much every ute worldwide is made in Thailand - they single handedly have the worlds ute production wrapped up, not to mention the largest ute market in the world.
Why would they move it to taiwan and increase their costs? I think your mechanic is having a lend.....
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Shorty
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I don't think his is having
I don't think his is having a lend he mentioned 4 cars made in Taiwan now but he might be mistaken or heard incorrect info,,i hope so anyway.
till
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You can get hilux made in
You can get hilux made in Thailand or Brazil. Does Toyota make any whole cars in Taiwan?
To be honest with you, the stigma of taiwan has long since faded in a lot of circles. Bikes for example, they make the better ones off some brands in Taiwan, and the cheap ones in China.
Shorty
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Maybe he was mixed up with
Maybe he was mixed up with Thailand.
out wide
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The Great Wall of China
I wonder if we will be driving one of them in ten years or so. Cheap ute just needs some refinedment and more power. Shame navara drops back in power with there little donk. I guess we will have to wait till 2011 when nissan bring out there v6 diesal power house in navara. Out next year in the usa.
adamsmith84
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Great wall bull bar
Ive just seen that sports range 4x4 has just realised the first alloy bull bar for the 240 great wall ute and its $690
but if your thinking of getting a great wall ute wait a little longer till they realise a turbo diesel
adamsmith84
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family member
just bought a ssangyong ute its ok buts revs to high because of how small the engine is