Buying a travel tinny for on the roofrack of our station wagon

 hey guys

 

Me and my friend gonna travel from Cairns to darwin, Broome and down to Perth. We want to buy a tinny which fits on the roofrack of our car. We have a station wagon with a normal roofrack.

Do you guys have any suggestions for what sizes and what kind of material the tinny should be? 2 guys should be able to put the tinny on the car and strap it on the roofrack.

Of course I also need a small engine. I asked the locals in Queensland and they told me under 6 horsepower you don't need a licence. But I want to use the tinny to go a little bit further out from the shore. Not too far beacuse it is still a tinny and on nice calm days I can boat around rocks, cliffs and .. Just to go little more further out than you can cast from the shore :P

I thougt maybe if I buy a little bit bigger engine like a 15 horsepower or maybe a 20  or whatever and I put a sticker on it from 6 Horsepower engine. Do you guys think I could get real big trouble with some coast guards or someone else? Or you guys think I need to stick to the 6 horsepower engine?

I never had or bought a small tinny.. So any tips where I should keep an eye on or any tips are really welcome!

 

cheers


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Gday mate, putting a 6hp

Thu, 2011-09-08 09:28

Gday mate, putting a 6hp sticker on a larger motor isnt a good idea in my opinion, your not gonna fool any one with half a clue, your just insaulting them which would get you in more trouble. If its your first boat and you want something with a larger engine then id recomend doing your skippers ticket. That way u can have a larger motor and you will have a beter idea of what you should and shouldnt be doing or where you should or shouldnt be going on the water. With weight being an issue and having 2 people id be looking at maybe a 10ft ally tinny with a 10 or 15hp motor. That will get you where you wana go fairly safely and get you into a few good fish. Thats about the max size you could go tho with a station wagon with roof racks and no trailer. Otherwise have a look at the poly craft tuff tenders, they look pretty sturdy for a small boat, they are nice and light and you will get away with using a 6hp motor, i would still recomend the skippers ticket tho ;) . Good luck with your adventure!

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Worth a look with it's

Thu, 2011-09-08 12:52

Worth a look with it's weight.

 

http://ezytopper.com.au/

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Some useful info on boat

Thu, 2011-09-08 13:46

Some useful info on boat registration in WA.

If your boat has a motor, or is fitted for one, it must be registered with the Department and is subject to an annual registration fee. Yachts, canoes, surf skis and other craft without motors and not fitted to carry one, are not required to be registered.

Exemptions from registration

A tender to a larger vessel is exempt provided it fits the following conditions:

  • It is no more than 3.1 metres long, has a motor no bigger than 3.73kW (5hp); and is used only as a lifeboat and for ship to shore transport.
  • If your boat is currently registered in another State, you have three months grace after bringing it into WA. After that time, you must register it in this State.

 

Otherwise its pay the money.

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I don't want to get the

Thu, 2011-09-08 17:29

I don't want to get the skipperticket. Ofcourse it is a good idea! And really usefull. Buth I just staying nog 5 more months in Oz and to do a skipperticket is gonna cost me again money.. Cause i'm a traveller/backpacker I don't have that much money and don't want to spend to much..

 

So if I stick to the 6 horsepower enginge, is it really to light to cary 2 people and go on calm seas littlebit out?

 

My chef want to cell it's 6 horsepower engine for like 250 bucks, so if i could find a small tinny around 500 bucks would be sweet! But ofcourse it needs to be safe and all worth it..

 

Thnx guys for the tips, I'm deffenly up for buying a small tinny and have still a month to find one so i'm gonna take my time to figure out something good and safe! 

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Skippers ticket

Thu, 2011-09-08 17:46

If you don't want to get your skippers ticket- just run the gauntlet and be prepared to pay the fine if you get checked. Chances are you won't get checked anyway. My old man has a 3.5m Stacer with a 15hp S/S motor- goes really well and is a deep boat for it's size- worth a look(prob bit exxy for your price range though!). If you buy the quokka i am sure there will be a few bargains in the cartopper range available.

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I have a look

Fri, 2011-09-09 08:12

 I will have a look for the skippers ticket, maybe it pays off to get one. If it is not so difficult and not so expensive I will get one. But I don't want to drop the idea to buy me and my mate a small tinny :)

 

in 7 days I have 2 days off and should get some time to speak to the locals and find some more information.

 

I will let you guys know what I wanna buy and how i'm gonna do it! 

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You need to obey the marine

Fri, 2011-09-09 08:43

You need to obey the marine safety rules for the state you are operating in so even your 6hp needs to be registered in WA, You don't need a RST for 6hp and under but you will need a rec boat fishing license. That's how I read it anyway. You also need to carry the safety gear that the state requires, which changes between Qld, NT and WA. You will need to check the NT if they require a boat license and rego.

I had an old tinny, a 12 footer and a 9.9hp on the back. Even with 1 person you wouldn't want any less horses.

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What about a rubber ducky?

Sun, 2011-09-11 18:00

Have a look at "The Inflatable Boat Center" in Brisbane for a cheap but good little boat.

I have an Island 3.3m boat that came with 2 x oars, 2 x seats, manual air pump, battery power electric air pump, repair kit and a storage bag for when its deflated. They also supplied a set of Beachmaster fold down wheels so you can drag it around the streets/beach/boat ramp to get to tthe water. It's has a 9.8 Parsun 2 stroke outboard motor and a 12ltr fuel tank............all for about $3000 brand new.

It's made in China (except for the wheels) but it's good quality for the price, the hull is made from the the same material and construction as white water rafts so it can take a beeting, the Parsun motor is an early model Yamaha and mine has been reliable as any Japanese motor I've owned ( 5 so far )

It's worth a look.

 

http://lc8ty.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Port-Smith-Lagoon/i-MTvfb3z/0/L/025-L.jpg

 

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 I also thought about this

Mon, 2011-09-12 11:13

 I also thought about this inflatable boats, but fishing in this boats with sharp hooks is that smart? I don't wanna sink down! haha

 

Would be easy if every state had the same rulles...  Would make my life little bit easier! haha

If you guys know good sites about boating info in WA an NT send me the links! cheers

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what is a lifeboat?

Mon, 2011-09-12 12:47

 I found the site of the transportboating site in WA. Really usefull!

 

Like Spicey allready mentioned: 

If your boat has a motor, or is fitted for one, it must be registered with the Department and is subject to an annual registration fee. Yachts, canoes, surf skis and other craft without motors and not fitted to carry one, are not required to be registered.

Exemptions from registration

A tender to a larger vessel is exempt provided it fits the following conditions:

  • It is no more than 3.1 metres long, has a motor no bigger than 3.73kW (5hp); and is used only as a lifeboat and for ship to shore transport.
  • If your boat is currently registered in another State, you have three months grace after bringing it into WA. After that time, you must register it in this State.

 

What I don't get; what is a lifeboat?

 

So if I really get it: I don't need a registration and a skippers ticket for a tinny smaller then 3 meters with a engine not bigger that 5 hp?

 

On the site of www.transport.wa.gov.au about boating I found this nice pdf file about the workbook off skipperticket with a lot of information. It looks not so difficult to me so maybe I consider to do my skipperticket.

Does anybody know about the cost of a skippersticket? And if it was easy, how many mistakes you can make, ... 

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 owyeah this rec fishing

Mon, 2011-09-12 12:49

 owyeah this rec fishing lincens, whats about that? What are the costs?