Caribbean 2400
Just a few weeks from 4 years since starting the Reef Runner build thread, I've dropped a deposit on a Caribbean 2400.
The Reef Runner is sold/committed but still with me until the end of Feb, now the agonising wait for the hull build that is only due in Nov' 21.
The Reef Runner has been a great boat and a great investment (if there is such a thing in boating). With some selective build and DIY elements at the front end and the current market pricing, it has resulted in 4 year of economical boating. My family and I have shared some great memories but we are looking for that extra room to make the extended day or weekend trips for 4 that bit more comfortable. Whilst it has hosted us on meny weekend trip to Rotto, the extra room of the 2400 will be a welcome benefit.
I considered bigger, I considered a penned boat or a share in a penned boat, I considered a jinker hardstand boat, but I couldn't look past the ROI that the Caribbean Boats command and truth be told since owning the Reefie I always dreamed of the girth and volume of the 2400. I always want to be able to hose and wash my gear off and be in control of my own modifications/repairs so I need to keep it trailered. Our usage is a mix of Metro fishing days with mates, whiting bash with kids, family day/weekend island trips, tubing and skiing in the river, plus 1-2 weeks fishing in Coral Bay/Exmouth per year.
Basic hull, oversized swim platforms and bunk infill ordered from Mansfield Marine. I'm researching engine options and trailer options currently. 300hp most likely. I'm pretty open to all major brands. I actually think the finish will end up similar to how I built the Reef Runner. Awning/Simrad/Autopilot/Fusion/Deck Tread/Extra Bench Seating… It has served us well. Build below:
fishwrecked.com/forum/caribbean-reef-runner
I will look for a through hull transducer. I've really struggled with a transom mount at speed over the years. I also think I will add the addition of tabs or zipwakes to get the beamy bow down into those tight chops and through hull leaves the transom clear for installation!
I’ve now got 11months to hunt the sales, find deals and start building the stockpile of fittout goodies!
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Sea goat
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absoultely awesome! congrats
absoultely awesome! congrats on the purchase, must say i am quite jealous!! just out of curiosity, what will you be towing it with? had you conisdered dual engines? my dream boat would be a 23 or 24 with twins just for that extra bit of security.
hopefully the next 10 months goes quick!
Darren253
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Tow rig will be a
Tow rig will be a Landcruiser...
I want to keep it well within the 3500kg limit so that will probably drive the single engine option... Without tempting fate, in 7 years of boating in 3 boats of various vintages, I have only ever experienced fuel and battery issues and have always been able to rectify the situation myself or limp back to the ramp. (Touch wood)
Dry boat is 1700kg, Alloy Trailer 670kg, 300hp Motor 240kg, 250kg Batteries/Chain/Canopy/Stuff is upto 2860kg... Fill the tanks up 100% with fuel and water (425ltr + 150ltr) we are at 3435kgs! No need to fill it up 100% for the majority of metro use though!
Twin 150's (Mercs) would add 172kgs plus probably an extra battery so its starting to get into the dodgy area after a trip to the servo!
Rob H
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Think you left 300 off your
Think you left 300 off your calcs there, comes to 3160 before fuel and water not 2860
I'm doing the same calcs but mine will be a little closer to the line even than yours!
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Darren253
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Na... the 300 in the text
Na... the 300 in the text above above is HP not kg.
Total 2860kg plus fluids. You had be worried for a moment...
Rob H
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haha yes so it is sorry
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Alan James
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...
The sg of fuel is 0.739 so that will make you around 110kg lighter than your 3435kg when fully fuelled up. Add accessories and then tackle, esky, ice, food and drink and I think you'll be struggling to stay under 3500kg.
Silver Fox
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Congratulations
What do they say about the day you buy a boat and the day you sell one?. Happiest days of your life!. Have you considered a wet box transducer?. I put a 1 kw Airmar in my Sharkcat and it was a straight forward install. No holes in your boat and it's never going to get knocked off.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
ranmar850
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How much room do they have for a thru-hull?
I'm guessing they have more room between the transom and the rear of the fuel tank than the Reefrunner does. After going through this myself, I would recommend angainst anyone going this route with a Reefrunner. I asked Mansfields shipwrights, before taking delivery and deciding on my final fitout, could I fit a B175 in there. The answer was a sort of drawn out "yeeesss...." meaning possible, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Should've paid attention. I got it in there, took me days, as you need to get the placement absolutely perfect, and you are working without being able to move your arms, with your nose stuck down the little gap at the back. The picture has never been great at speed. Then it failed, recently. Well, the Axiom Pro 9 failed, Raymarine covered me under warranty, but strongly cautioned me to get the TX tested as it was a possible cause of failure. In the meantime, I had tracked down an Australian -made extender ring for the B175--it lowers the TX about 9mm to get it a bit further out of the hull turbulence. Testimonials were good. But of course the TX needs to come out to fit it. So I had 2 reasons to get it out. Took me 4 days. Not full time, but doing it bit by bit. Had to make up a tool to push it out of the hull as the last step. And yes, it was faulty, no warranty.
So this is a long-winded way of saying to have a good look at the fitting of a thru-hull before you decide to go that way. I was ready to just stick mine back in as a plug and put a TM there, but decided that, as I had that extender ring, might as well give it another try. I'll keep you updated on whether the extender ring works, if you are still keen on thru hull, and have the room to fit it.
At least you will have good access to the back of the dash with the 2400, if it is anything like the 2300. You know what reefies are like in that respect-- I had everything mounted on a board inside the cab, like yours, works well. But access into the dash itself is bad. So, when I sent the Axiom in, I got to work improving access. There is now an access hole, and that board is hinged to give access to it. I then sealed up the bottom of the dash with a hinged piece of starboard. I can now access all the wiring and rear of components at sea, without tools.
Minesy
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Ranmar, Any info on this
Ranmar,
Any info on this extender ring you talk about? Where I might be able to get hold of one?
Cheers
Minesy
Tim
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QME
QME do these 1KW Transducer Collar QME01 - Quality Marine Electronics (qmeq.com.au)
ranmar850
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Sorry, missed this post earlier
Yes, Tim has it right, thats the one. The new transducer is refitted, but haven't had it in the water yet. I'll post separately about it when I've got some feedback.
Tim
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Used
I used one on the Striper but it didnt help due to the hull shape.
Still worth trying as my fix cost way more
Minesy
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Thanks.
Cheers guys I have ordered a few from QME. Mine is going on a Striper also so will see if it fixes my SS264 pair.
I have a M285HW that works at full noise so it isn't a major problem but I'd like the 50Khz in the SS264 to read better at speed it drops out at 10 knots currently.
Tim
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Striper
Is yours the newer shape? If so it has more deadrise so might be better.
My 50khz crapped out at 15 knots
Minesy
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Same as yours by the looks.
07 Model 2601 is what Ive got.
sealure
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What an awesome boat you're
What an awesome boat you're going to get.
no doubt as well as towing weight you've considered the 2.7 beam width which does come with some restrictions. I understand that's what lead to the popularity of the 2300 over east.
Darren253
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Yes...
www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/globalassets/heavy-vehicles/getting-a-permit/osom/guide-to-towing-boats-on-public-roads.pdf
@ 2.7m the only real restriction is freeway travel and signage. Once you go over 2.7m it becomes a whole different discussion with regards to night-time and public holiday travel
sealure
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Well done. Always good to
Well done. Always good to see someone's really done their homework. Certainly avoids unpleasant surprises.
Fantastic boat which I'm certain will give you enormous pleasure. Very envious.
Rob H
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Hey Darren, may or may not
Hey Darren, may or may not help you but note that most of the main roads literature lists the Oversize sign as being 1200 x 450, if you look a little deeper that’s actually for pilot vehicles.
Size minimum is actually 1020 x 250 which is much more manageable.
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Darren253
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Yes...
Double click!
Gadsy
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You would have to add the downweight on the tow hitch too
To the GVM of your tow vehicle too. What would you be towing the boat with And what GVM would apply?
holth
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Yep, people forget the
Yep, people forget the vehicles GCM, landcruisers is 6850kg.
Take the ball weight off the GVM and add the tow weight 3.5t and it leaves about 150 kgs to be in the car. So how ever you spin it towing right on 3.5t leaves you right on illegal.
SeperateKnob
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Which 300hp? And is the
Which 300hp? And is the weight for the 30inch shaft? Also do they include the weight of all the oils and hydraulic steering?
Darren253
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Good pick up...That's the
Good pick up...
That's the Merc weight dry and is actually only published in 25". Merc in 300 in 30" is only available in Verado format with power steering totaling 279kgs. Yamaha weight is 259kg in 30".
No idea about oils etc but every kilo counts (as my doctor tells me).
looks like the water tank is never getting filled to the top
SeperateKnob
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Wow pretty amazing a 300hp
Wow pretty amazing a 300hp fourstroke for around 250kg. I thought I read somewhere the weights are “dry”. Could offset some weight by going lithium batteries? And carry the spare wheel and hub for the trailer in the car?
Tim
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Weight
When I was looking at these they basically told me you will struggle to get it under 3.5t when actually using it.
You will be surprised how quickly the qeights get up there.
Recently had my 23' Striper weighed and it came in at 3.1t and I was expecting 2.8t.
That was with almost no gear on it and wasnt full tanks
Awesome choice in boat though. They go really well.
Silver Fox
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Pays to go bigger.
I'm in the process of getting a trailer built by Duralite to tow my 28ft cat. I went the whole hog and got it rated to six tonne. Boat weighs 3.8 empty add 1.4 tonne for the trailer and that gives me room to fill the tanks and still be legal if needed. I'll never run it on the trailer with more than a hundred litres on each side as she's going to be on a mooring up here on Thursday Island and we get fuel from the jetty at Horn island. Its good to know if you do ever need to fill em up you can legally do it.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Mitch88
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Looking forward to the build.
Looking forward to the build.
lurch
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Beautiful boats
Beautiful boats, have always had a soft spot for them, often called the landcruiser of the seas. Great handling and great return on initial investment
BigbadDhu
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I was very near to ordering
I was very near to ordering a 2300 or 2400.
The only issue that stopped me was the weight and towing issue.
Anyways, ive been happy so far with the Stabicraft 2400 Supercab.
Interested to see how the build comes along. I have been pondering about a bigger boat though. What are the things holding you back with a penned boat?
Cheers
Swompa
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I have recently been admiring
I have recently been admiring one of the 2400's when launching at Woodmans Point. There is one opposite the shop, backed up the fence at CPBC.
Damn there are some nice boats in there!
SeperateKnob
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Probably need an f250 for
Probably need an f250 for towing the 2400?
Darren253
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4000kg BTC Upgrade / 4200kg GVM Upgrade
4000kg LC200
Sea goat
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whered u get the upgrade
whered u get the upgrade done?
Rob H
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GCM/BTC
I'm sure you've looked into that, but many probably haven't.
The way that it seems to work is that in WA it can ONLY be changed before first registration of the vehicle and is done thru a "loophole" in Commonwealth laws.
Once registered, it can be done in some states but in WA a BTC or GCM upgrade outside the OEM one is not possible from memory.
Some light reading
https://www.lovellsauto.com.au/products
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Sea goat
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yeah, that fits with what i
yeah, that fits with what i was told when i was looking into it for the old prado....at that stage currently wa wasnt an option :/ was hoping it had changed!
Darren253
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Correct... Only
Correct... Only pre-registation available in WA.
Rob H
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What is not entirely clear,
What is not entirely clear, is whether you can do it in another state (or buy one interstate) that allows it post rego, then bring it to WA with that limit.
Definitely not if you were to ask that exact question, but in practice they possibly would not even notice while transferring rego.
The L200 is easily capable of it, I have towed "right on"
the limit and still barely noticed it on the back
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resurgence
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GCM
Does it give you a GCM upgrade though? This seems to be the one that catches most out.
If you've got a 4000kg BTC, your boat weighs in at say 3800kg, with the factory GCM of 6850kg you only have 3050kg to play with. Tare weight is 2750kg so you have only 300kg to play with; basically still stuck at a bare tow vehicle with a driver, fuel and nothing else.
Darren253
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Yes... The GCM is increased
Yes... The GCM is increased to match the combined updated GVM + BTC before registration.
The BTC upgrade is only available with or after a GVM upgrade that is available in 3800kg, 4000kg and 4200kg configurations.
With the 3800kg GVM upgrade and the BTC the new nameplate GCM is 7800kg.
holth
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GCM. There's so much
GCM. There's so much conjecture on this over the net it's hard to tell who to believe. Obviously Lovells will tell you it's legal, plus the retailers selling it, but there's many out there who say it's not. The biggest problem is getting an answer from the DOT. Most time they wouldn't even know.
Personally JMO from info lve read over time it's not doable, GCM can't be changed. l wouldn't be buying a boat l legally can't tow unless its 100% fact it can
dodgy
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Lovells were advertising it
Lovells were advertising it was coming for 2 years before their product was released. Has been a great money maker for them.
I was told that a few different competitors actively got together to lobby federally to have it stopped as their engineers weren't happy to sign off on a similar product.
If you have an engineer sign off, an ssm approval, upgraded details on your rego, and insurance policy updated with new figures I can't see how you could possibly be held responsible if something went wrong.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Billcollector
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DOT will not tell you
DOT will not tell you anything, they would rather have an engineer put his arse on the line.
dodgy
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I've seen upgraded figures
I've seen upgraded figures on rego papers.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Darren253
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I second that... In 2014 i
I second that... In 2014 i had a 200 series with a GVM upgrade and the the GVM and GCM were updated on the DOT papers.
Tim
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GVM
A mate had his 200 series upgraded and it only increased the GVM. GCM was un altered.
Have a photo of the plate somewhere
ranmar850
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GVM, GCM, ...
Upgrade that all you like, the issue here is BTC. It was set in stone, manufacturer's specs were not to be messed with with regards to BTC. Then Lovell's conned the Feds into approving their "upgrade" to get 4 tonne on certain model landcruisers, only done as SSM, ( Second Stage Manufacturing) never post first rego. This is quite clear. It is federally approved. You want it, you are buying a new landcruiser. Looked at Toyota prices lately? They really are taking the piss on Australians, the Apple of the automotive world, IMO. No wonder you are seeing so many new Ram's around. At least you are legal, up to 4.5 tonne, even if there isn't much payload available at that. Best viewed as a safe 4 and a bit tonne tow rig with a half tonne of payload. And before anyone says .." but they're not a REAL 4wd" most of you blokes are using them as tow pigs only, not plowing potato paddocks.
All I can say is, just drive one, and your cruiser will feel more than just a bit agricultural when you get back into it.
BigbadDhu
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Yeah i agree with most of
Yeah i agree with most of the above.
I have a 3850 GVM upgrade, which towing 3.5T, and 350kg downball weight, with the rest of my shit on the car and family aboard, has me just under GCM and GVM, whilst also abiding by axle weights, which were also upgraded slightly with my Gvm upgrade.
I just completed 12000kms towing theough nsw, sa NT and all of wa before chrissy at this weight, and cruiser did it easy, though thirsty at times depending on wind and how fast i tracelled ( i did get a bit naughty at times, though atill felt safe)
BigbadDhu
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Yeah i agree with most of
Yeah i agree with most of the above.
I have a 3850 GVM upgrade, which towing 3.5T, and 350kg downball weight, with the rest of my shit on the car and family aboard, has me just under GCM and GVM, whilst also abiding by axle weights, which were also upgraded slightly with my Gvm upgrade.
I just completed 12000kms towing theough nsw, sa NT and all of wa before chrissy at this weight, and cruiser did it easy, though thirsty at times depending on wind and how fast i tracelled ( i did get a bit naughty at times, though atill felt safe)
dodgy
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By a bit agricultural you
By a bit agricultural you mean 13 years old?
Certainly due replacement but Toyota haven't been interested because it's had no competition.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Billcollector
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I like my agricultural 200.
I like my agricultural 200. bloody reliable goes anywhere and can easily get parts on the off chance something goes wrong.
ranmar850
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they're biting today!
Nah, not trolling, not really.
Always easy to get a bite out of the Landcruiser fanclub. BTW, I would not define any of the above answers as coming from members of the fanclub, all answers were considered, honest, and worthy of discussion. I'm a bit of a contrarian by nature, always liked taking the Devil's Advocate position in a debate, because I have this ability, uncomfortable for some, to see both sides of an argument, and the holes therein. Yes, cruisers are generally pretty reliable, although far from " bullet proof", as some like to argue. Spend some time supervising a LV workshop on a minesite, you start to see trends. If you want a wagon, yes, a GX 200 series is OK, bare bones, don't even get controls on the steering wheel, feel like they are out of the 80's. And before anyone attacks me along the lines of " what do YOU own", let me state I haven't owned a cruiser for a long time. BUT, in my line of work, I get to drive everything, sometimes long term, sometimes short term. 70's of various configs, Prados, 200's, 105s, Hiluxes. Minesites, commutes, long highway trips. And the 70's series cruisers are just underwhelming. Especially for the money. The $150,000 76 series has become a cliche'. In black.
It really looks like Darren is up for another vehicle. A GX 200 , with the 4 tonne upgrade, will cost him $100k OTD. Or over. For a rubber matted, manual window winder, no controls on the steering wheel, no air in the rear, bare bones farm spec vehicle. A 76 GXL ( power windows, yay! ) series will cost the same, approx. And be a pig around town, just horrid uncomfortable vehicles. I'd warrant that if he were to load up the family, put them in both the above vehicles, take them for a drive, then put them in the Ram, they'd never want to go back. been in the back seat of a 76 lately? You can get a Laramie 1500, leather everything, easily the as good as a Sahara inside, but with more space, with 4.5 tonne towing, for just under $110k OTD. Might be a little less, but lets' settle on that. Or one with lesser interior fixtures, same bones, for $90k OTD. Or a base model, with 3.5 tonne towing, for just over $80 k. Little more than a bloody Ford Ranger. Depends if you must have a wagon, I suppose. If you do, and you need over 3.5 tonne towing, very little choice.
Billcollector
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You need to do more homework
You need to do more homework Ranmar, a gx 200 has electric windows on all 4 doors radio controls on steering wheel,cruise control...... Last time I looked at mine it did. Dual cabbed mine to suit the intended use and vinyl floors are great as easy to clean. I can do without the keyless start.
ranmar850
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Not according to Toyotas website
I checked on Toyotas website this morning, just to fact check before committing to papar. GX does not show electric windows as standard, or controls on steering wheel either. I know that's what they were like a few years ago, so I went with that as unchanged from then. "Shrugs" Options, not standard? So you dual cabbed it? So now it has cost you, what, $120K? Without extending it, ? So you have a dual cab, with a very short tray, with all the tray weight behind the axle? Been there, done that.
Billcollector
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650mm extension 2mtr canopy
650mm extension 2mtr canopy very well ballanced rig drives and tow awesome due to the extension. Didn't give a toss about build cost as is long term vehicle that holds its value anyway. Why are you looking at toyotas to buy when a ram is far superior?
Check toyotas website again mate nothing has changed on the gx from when I bought mine.
dodgy
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The main trend you would
The main trend you would notice in a minesite lv workshop is Toyota is what they keep reverting back to after everything else fails.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Billcollector
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Couple of people have gone
Couple of people have gone back to 200 series up here after owning new yank vehicles due to problems with them and having to truck the vehicles back to perth to sort.
sea-kem
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But have Toyota shot
But have Toyota shot themselves in the foot with no more V8 200's? Just want an opinion.
Love the West!
dodgy
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Every cruiser has been
Every cruiser has been better and more powerful than the last. Be interesting to see exactly what the new power is going to be.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Billcollector
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Lcool site has 50 pages of
Lcool site has 50 pages of speculation about a new cruiser and what power plant it gets and still nothing is clear. Time will tell.
Rob H
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Toyota are certainly the
Toyota are certainly the best at keeping their cards close to their chest
I have a good mate who went from a 200TD to a Ram, absolutely loves it and doesnt even tow over 3.5.
He's been in it a year and the only issues so far have been some squeeky suspension and HVAC clutch fried.
Adamant that the fuel consumption is on a par with the 200.
I had a 200 for 7 years and sold it 3 months back, still got my 100TD
I'd consider a Ram for sure.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Darren253
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Double post
Double post
SeperateKnob
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So you no longer need to keep
So you no longer need to keep well within the towing limit of 3.5t?
Darren253
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Will still be a target
Will still be a target if i can... Not many 4000kg registered towing motors around.
I've been doing research with 2400 owners who have actually weighed their rigs. The more i look into it the harder it seems to be able to get past 50% fuel and land under 3500kg.
dowders
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https://www.ramtrucks.com.au/
https://www.ramtrucks.com.au/ Get one of these 4.5T
Adam Gallash
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Interesting thread
Look forward to seeing completion. Interesting thread gents, lots of good reading.
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ranmar850
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Yes, back to the boat.
I await with interest, as do we all. You've got, as you said, plenty of time to hunt the goodies down. And work out what you will do yourself, and what others will do for you.
CD
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Long term and resale??
The thing that always interests me with these type of discussions is that no one ever really talks about the longer term. Sure people might be happy with Rams that they have just bought, but what about 5 years down the track? The record of the yank tanks is not good. The vehicles with the lowest service requirements are the Toyota's. So if you plan on holding onto the car for longer than a few years the gloss of the yank tanks might wear off a little. Also consider the resale value, resale value of the Toyota's leaves the others for dead - not unlinked you their proven reliability.
ranmar850
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Look at a much older yank truck
Prices are stupid even by toyota standards. A lot of that was down to availability, you had to go grey import, get a RHD conversion, expensive exercise. Now you can buy them from a dealer, things may improve in that respect, but for now, resale is very good. And has been for many years.
SeperateKnob
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Date Joined: 28/11/16
Lucky I bought my 100 series
Lucky I bought my 100 series but over a year ago. The resale on these things are crazy $$
sea-kem
Posts: 15020
Date Joined: 30/11/09
I Recently picked up a V6
I Recently picked up a V6 2003 Prado with 300000k's on the clock for my son. Paid $11k for it, had a mech check and all it needed was a tranny flush, new shocks and brake pads. The mech said it was in excellent condition for it's age. It's a beautiful car to drive and should last the young bloke a few years if he looks after it.
Love the West!
Rob H
Posts: 5806
Date Joined: 18/01/12
Toyota’s are without doubt
Toyota’s are without doubt the best resale, but have a look at mid 2000’s F250’s, still fetching $60-$70k with 300,000
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Stevo81
Posts: 1278
Date Joined: 16/04/12
One just popped up for sale
One just popped up for sale at boats unlimited
www.facebook.com/1026767916/posts/10221787227283017/
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sea-kem
Posts: 15020
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Was looking at that today
Was looking at that today Stevo, what an absolute weapon.
Love the West!
Sea goat
Posts: 988
Date Joined: 26/03/17
omg i want it!if i am ever
omg i want it!
if i am ever lucky enough to be able to upgrade, then a 23 with twin 150s.....beautiful boat.
bsir
Posts: 574
Date Joined: 24/04/11
Look
I went and had a look at that yesterday, it was pretty nice.....but $150k for a 7 year old boat seemed pretty rich.....or maybe I'm not allowing enough for COVID pricing. Not sure I could be bothered with the towing weight issues either.
SeperateKnob
Posts: 668
Date Joined: 28/11/16
How much is a new one? Is the
How much is a new one? Is the boat advertised a 2300?
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
2400 advertised. New they
2400 advertised. New they start from $140k with a 250hp single on Gal trailer. $152k is the new Mansfield price drive away
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
COVID tax and Instant gratification factor
I'm sure it will go, but i would have expected closer to $135k than $150k... But who knows in this "Covid" market!
My new build on a 2021 WA made Ali trailer will land at less than that... Single motor but with jumbo swim platforms and 2x 9" simrads MFD.
Just need to wait best part of a year!
The thing with used Caribbean boats is providing you have looked after them, they seem to be worth 90-95% of the cost paid new after 5 years. Let's hope it continues. There is a 17 year old reef runner recently sold for 60k with original 2stroke motor...
Another pimped out 2010 C2400 just listed for for $260k
www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/4176278539066920/
dodgy
Posts: 4578
Date Joined: 01/02/10
It's listed as a deep drop
It's listed as a deep drop rig so I'm sure it comes with a hefty electronics package.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
Motor & Trailer Ordered
Made some commitments this week...
I've selected the 300hp V8 Verado as the motor of choice. I gave the Yamaha some serious consideration for the added tech but the extra cost plus the serviceability of the Merc secured it for me. No replacement for displacement. Motor is going on through the main dealer. The cost saving of doing it direct was marginal if at all. Motors ordered today are out to Oct/Nov for delivery.
I've also ordered an ACE 3500kg trailer from the guys in Wangara. Bunk/keel roller combo with self-centring guides. It will be setup to drive on/off with a boat catch, big-vee and access ladder/steps built into the winch post structure.
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
Motor & Trailer Ordered
Made some commitments this week...
I've selected the 300hp V8 Verado as the motor of choice. I gave the Yamaha some serious consideration for the added tech but the extra cost plus the serviceability of the Merc secured it for me. No replacement for displacement. Motor is going on through the main dealer. The cost saving of doing it direct was marginal if at all. Motors ordered today are out to Oct/Nov for delivery.
I've also ordered an ACE 3500kg trailer from the guys in Wangara. Bunk/keel roller combo with self-centring guides. It will be setup to drive on/off with a boat catch, big-vee and access ladder/steps built into the winch post structure.
Silver Fox
Posts: 1115
Date Joined: 19/06/14
Nice selection.
I hope you enjoy the howl of a supercharger!. When the pair of mine get floored it truly is a wonderful sound.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
Thanks!
No superchargers on the new V8's. Its 4.6l naturally aspirated torque machine!
www.youtube.com/watch
Silver Fox
Posts: 1115
Date Joined: 19/06/14
Mmmmm
That's a rather sweet sounding donk. Remember once you go black you never go back!. I've got three Mercs at the moment ( two Verado 175 and an optimax 115 ) All of em are really nice pieces of kit. Maybe a couple of V8's for the cat cat might be needed......:D
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Rob H
Posts: 5806
Date Joined: 18/01/12
Verado
It is interesting that Merc have tagged the V8 as a "Verado" despite not being supercharged?
I wonder why, when the entire rest of their new 4 stroke range which is so successful has not been tagged "Verado"?
The rebranding of the new Mercs as Four Stroke, Pro XS etc has been overwhelmingly beneficial for them, perhaps too much given the supply issues.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Rick
Posts: 1115
Date Joined: 22/12/06
Nice
Going to be a beast mate
PGFC Member
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
Ace 3700kg (ATM) Trailer Build
Finished the trailer this week... Shame i don't have a boat to put on it.
I ended up going with Ace Trailers. They guys have done a great job at a decent price point. They are not the easiest business to get hold of via the phone or email but making the visit in person and the following comms secured my decision. I probably got 6-8 quotes from around the traps both in WA and VIC but this offered me the best solution and customisable options.
3 more months for the hull!!!
Sea goat
Posts: 988
Date Joined: 26/03/17
gee thats a nice looking
gee thats a nice looking trailer!.
is it steel or ally? any idea how much it weighs? love the idea of the irrigation system!
Darren253
Posts: 570
Date Joined: 23/07/16
Alloy
Alloy... Weighed in at 620kgs.