Cats at Hillarys - killem all!
Submitted by speedgull on Mon, 2013-09-16 13:50
Took the young Speedgull to the northern side of Hillarys marina on Sunday arvo for a quick fish.
All these cats lurking in and around the rocks. What's that all about?
After finished fishing and off to pick up Mrs Speedgull the boy looks at me and goes "what's that smell!" while pulling a face to match the question.
Quick search revealed he'd stepped in cat shiat!
I'm not a cat lover by any measure but seriously what is up with all that. Is this someone's idea of a Seagull containment policy or something.
Who should I call to address this, I mean all that cray bait!
Starbug
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I will be a toss up between
I will be a toss up between the local council (Joondalup) or the mangers of Hillarys( Dept of Transport. Both will try to handball the problem as it means a cost to them.
TorquenFish
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There's hundreds of the
There's hundreds of the buggers too.
Andy_b
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12G
12G
petervb
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Yeah i was suprised as ive
Yeah i was suprised as ive only just moved up nor and started fishing there, sure are a lot of them.... A few locals said that people whono lomger want their pets dump them there and now there is a feral population going! The cat haven may trap them as ive had them in to get a feral population that were living in my neighbours back yard.
Leemo
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been thousands for years.
been thousands for years. most annoying things, can't leave food or baits or anything out
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beeroclock
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Was fishing one afternoon
down there off the rocks, not much happening, i was sitting watching my rod when a cat turns up next to me meowing out loud and looked real dirty and hungry had its eye on my bait. I felt kinda sorry for it so i peeled a prawn and reached the prawn over to it and he ripped his claws into my hand grabbed the prawn as i dropped it and took off, drew blood - next time there will be a hook and line attached to the prawn.
Super peg
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Mate that's classic! Haha
Mate that's classic! Haha ey!
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jighead
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Poor little bastards. Don't
Poor little bastards. Don't deserve to live like that.
Callum24
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top cray bait shark burley
top cray bait shark burley haha but agree its not there fault they had iresponsible owner its a shame but better off gone
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chris raff
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Freo wharf rats .. remember
Freo wharf rats .. remember years ago the ole man taking me fishing on the wharf and the rats were the size of cats scurrying around the place . Take em out bang bang easier said than done though .
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pale ale
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Yep, had some fun with light
Yep, had some fun with light line and big rats
Markie
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hahahahahahahahahaha ^^^
hahahahahahahahahaha ^^^ love it. coogee got cats to
THERESONLYONEBIGRED
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BOWL OF MILK AND A FEW PANADOLL
hey mate a bowl of milk with a few panadol crunched up in there will get rid of a few cats for ya..
black gen
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boot em into the water.cats
boot em into the water.
rocklobster
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I was fishing Hillarys north
I was fishing Hillarys north wall with some mates around 12 years ago and as we were packing up late one night a bloke from Karratha rocked up with his pitbulls. He then instructed the dogs to 'get em' and the pittys shot off like bullets hunting down the cats lol! He said its ' good practice for the dogs ' at which point we left as the owner seemed a bit of a loose unit. . . Anyone on this site have dogs . . . . .?
Tradewind
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Disagree with the hate
Disagree with the hate towards cats.
I have a couple of indoor cats and they never go outside. Very affectionate and loyal with unique personalities.
Hell mine waits for me on the hallstand when i get home to greet me with a head bump.
Most people who've had bad experiences with cats as pets are the ones who buy a cat and just let it run wild, so what could you really expect from it (Most cases not all)
I've had dogs before and I love my cats as much as the dogs i've had so I can't comprehend joking about using them as cray bait or butchering them.
If someone joked and said a staffy was excellent cray bait people would cry bloody murder
It sucks that there's irresponsible people who dump cats, don't neuter and contribute to these situations but the cats didn't ask for it so how about a little more trap and euthenize and less rip them to pieces
No I don't support greens, Yes I hunt animals for food. Never hurt animals because it's humourous or they're a nuisance
You're welcome to your own opinion but come on...
Albee Mangles
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In this case
I dont have sympathy for them, they are prolific breeders. Cats slaughter native birds and wildlife, if people cant own them responsibly they shouldnt exist, they arent native. They are bred as pets, they have no other use, noone owns working cats.
If the area was overrun with feral staffy's, what do you think the council would do?
When i lived in Gero you rarely saw stray cats....
Versus
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Somewhat ironic that your
Somewhat ironic that your avatar thingo is a cat.
catchalittle
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Well said Tradewind have too
Well said Tradewind have too agree with you on that
After getting woken up by my wife on Sunday morning to be told that there were two dogs at our front door and one of them had just just killed our 18 year old cat,not exactly a great topic for me at the moment.
I do say this that we have one indoor cat that the wife rescued from a meathead in Kelmscott who was trying to put a litter of kittens in a craypot 2 years ago this cat is as dopey as and a lovely cat. the guy ended up being fined $10,000 and if I ever caught someone trying to do that to a cat they certainly would not be very happy after had got thru with them.
The problem with feral cats is the reflection from the previous owner,I am all for trapping feral animals and putting them down humanly but some of the nomadic comments on here really make question where you guys come from and your state of mind.
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Mate I'm sorry to hear about
Mate I'm sorry to hear about ur pet cat but as much as two dogs shouldn't be roaming the streets at night neither should ur cat if it was inside or outside in a cat run it would be safe and native animals would be safe from it.
catchalittle
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It was in a run and they
It was in a run and they pushed the dog in to get in. our outside cat was always put in an outside enclosure at dusk and let out at dawn
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Mr x
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Ah ok man I just figured it
Ah ok man I just figured it was outside from your OP I'm sorry to hear about ur cat I don't like them but clearly you were a responsible cat owner.
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I have just been
adopted by a beautiful cat that somebody dumped in our back yard (found out from the vet she is a short haired Persian, a Exotic cat) and is bigger than our dog, she is a inside cat never out at night and is microchiped/sterilized. I hate to see the poor things being dumped. Agree with you Tradewind, think they should be caught by the Council and humanely put down. Irresponsible owners that can't be bothered with their cat/dog or spend the money to get them sterilized are the problem.
We also have a rescue Silky Haired Terrier X that we got from the Geraldton Dog Rescue he is microchipped and sterilized, you must be a responible cat or dog owner otherwise don't bother having a fur baby.
Hubbie the same he loved going out, shooting rabbits, ducks or kangaroos to eat but you do something to any 4legged animal and you won't walk away.
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Lamby
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Don't use cats as cray bait,
Don't use cats as cray bait, kittens fit into the basket much easier
uncle
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sounds like a good solution
can't see the need for cruelty and torture, includes blowies as well
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chris raff
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In hindsight it was a mistake
In hindsight it was a mistake googling fisherman and cats
.. poor little puddy cat
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Karak
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Not to mention, cats run
Not to mention, cats run about killing all the native rodents, such as bandicoots.
tim-o
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Lol lamby. Setum on fire and
Lol lamby. Setum on fire and put the fire out with a length of chain, not just them Hillarys ferals, all that are roamin free
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sea-kem
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They are filthy ferrals so
They are filthy ferrals so cull them. I'm sick of domestic cats coming into my yard and hunting down the birds in my native garden. I've told the boys to throw rocks at them. Shitting cats!
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Lastchance
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C'mon mate! Cats are
C'mon mate! Cats are beautiful, they taste just like rabbit!
big or small, kill them all.
mind you, the Cats gave the eagles 2 premierships, so I guess they aren't that bad!
rocklobster
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Lol! This thread has already
Lol! This thread has already had 800+ reads, the power of the pussy hey?
Shark1
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I keep my dog in my yard - do
I keep my dog in my yard - do the same with your cat
otherwise its a feral animal and should be treated like any feral animal, quick swift and humane end.
lastcast
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few things more satisfying
than shooting a feral cat out in the bush. In town it should be the council
that deals with them. If not just make lots of noise they they will. easy.
timboon
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I agree lastcast, watching
I agree lastcast, watching the eyes roll in a Tabby or Fox as the 250 hits its mark is very satisfying.... I`m not in anyway inciting cruelty here but go get em boys.... Tradewinds your story brought a tear to my eyes... My old cat Fluffy was sent to heaven with the old Semi-auto .22 He was a good idea as a grommet but then I started to understand how effective they are at killing anything that moves. We gave him a small plate of mullet as a parting gift then "pop" Fluffy went to heaven... Inside cats are safe... Register, de-sex your cat and don`t let him out of your yard or else he is fair game....
trymyluck
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They should only be allowed
They should only be allowed if infertile and kept within the yard.If not bye bye .. And cats and men are just weird and creepy !!! Old people and kids can get away with it but only just! I hate them
tailor marc
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me too. I like cats and its
me too. I like cats and its not there fault. Shitty owners imo. All animals feral or not dont deserve cruelty. If they have to be put down then do it the painless way. This goes with my fishin. Kill quick no pain
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catchalittle
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Agree Marc
Agree Marc
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Versus
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Yeh agree too. Just want to
Yeh agree too.
Just want to add a story to the debate, a while ago at a mates semi rural property near Wattleup (where there is bush nearby), we were sitting around drinking etc when his dog came racing in from the bush with something in it's mouth. We we're all "what's that, a rabbit?" and my mate (dog's owner) goes and looks at it and goes "nah it's just a bandicoot" and proceeds to give the dog pats and scratches and "good girl" etc etc.
I think it was actually a Quenda or something, but the point is... f*** it, you should get the point.
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What exactly was the point
What exactly was the point there Versus?
I got lost towards the end there....
Mr x
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I think versus is trying to
I think versus is trying to say dogs kill natives and its true but no where near the amount cat do and with pet dogs you can teach them to not attack native animals don't think u will have much luck doing that with a cat.
Versus
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Just that some people go on
Just that some people go on about how cats kill native animals etc, but never mention dogs. No one ever talks about the fact that dogs attack (and sometimes kill) people, including little children. And, that there are feral dogs (anyone that's worked on a minesite might have seen some), which no doubt kill native animals.
Yet, if someone started a thread talking about killing dogs, every man (and his dog) would have a shit fit.
Double-standards is all i'm getting at. No-one jokes about swerving to hit someone's pet dog just for laughs.
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Wild dog hunter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mioD47T8-YM
bit off topic... sorta... feral dogs deserve the bullet just as much. hunting just for fun.
entertaining vid, guys a bit of a nut and good vid. All for dogs, cats dont bother me but a feral anything deserves the bullet.
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Was once fishing at karri
Was once fishing at karri valley resort and saw a guy drop a trap in the creek he had previously set that had some feral cats in it. They circumnavigated that trap at a rate. For a little while. Suprised to see him do it in full view of what might have been a paying visitor, although we might have caught him off gaurd. Have no problems with catching them in places like that
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a certain bloke that
a certain bloke that uses this site has 4 Tibetan mastiffs wonder if they are for hire for cat control , check those monsters out on google bloody scarey mutts
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I have shot many a feral dog
I have shot many a feral dog in the kimberly. Bloody camp dogs end up going wild and hunting in packs, killing calves as they are being born, having a bit of a chew, then moving onto the next one, its awefull to see. I would like to see all feral animals treated the same, culled. They shoot/kill thousands of dogs, camles, foxes, rabbits, donkeys, pigs, buffallo, goats, cats every year out in the scrub, why should the city cats be trested any differently. It would be even easier at hillaries, just trap em, or bait em. Its not like there is a native living in there. Put signs up telling the public about the baits, job done.
Cheers
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Cheers
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Honestly how can you call
Honestly how can you call yourself men if yous like cats. Come on thats like saying your not gay but u take dildos in the ass
Super peg
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Such a good comment.... Five
Such a good comment.... Five gold stars mulla hunter!!
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I got three cats. Come at me
I got three cats. Come at me bro!
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Ahhhhhh shit, are you telling
Ahhhhhh shit, are you telling me its gay to stick dildos in your ass, better stop doin it i guess!!!!
Rob H
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I dont mind domestic cats
I dont mind domestic cats BUT-ANY cat that does not have a collar should be considered feral and exterminated by whatever humanish method available.
Cruelty is not good for its own sake, but for you city dwellers, be aware, there is no "peaceful" death in nature.
Bambi doesnt crawl under a shady tree and watch the sunset and die in his sleep.
Animals get slower older or sick and are then ripped apart alive by bigger and faster ones. There is no other way in nature.
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dodgy
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I almost agree with you Rob.
I almost agree with you Rob. Just to go a little further I believe any cat that leaves its owners yard is classed as a stray and is therefor fair fame.
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Rusty Balls
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WOW just WOW at peoples
WOW just WOW at peoples comments re this ..........
And we wonder why groups like peta don't like us ..seriously...
Kill them all .. but do it right eh !?!
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bigdavet86
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I suppose you let mice run
I suppose you let mice run around your house, rats live in your roof, dont swat flies, save the rabbits..... seriosuly mate, they are a feral pest and need to be treated as such. They kill NATIVE wildlife.
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Tradewind
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Doing it right is exactly the
Doing it right is exactly the point
No reason to torture or extend pain on feral animals.
As I posted above I love my pet cats but what I didn't post is I trap ferals in my neighbourhood and have done at previous workplaces.
We get a lot of feral cats in Maddington and I see a lot come through my back yard. For years I've trapped these cats and their kittens.
The grown cats are transported to be euthenised, but the kittens if they're young enough I give a month of rehab and if they're viable I find a home for them (as long as they're sterilized)
So I know first hand from scars how nasty feral cats are but there's no need for bloodlust and cruel behavior, just do it humanely & quickly.
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Im guessing Rusty Balls lives
Im guessing Rusty Balls lives in the city...
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sea-kem
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Hey don't bind us all the
Hey don't bind us all the same group Rob,I'm a city dweller but I travel to the country quite often and know how things work out there. A good mate of mine is a feral hunter and I love his extermination stories. He reckons cats are their most prolific feral pest.
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Super peg
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Wow this thread really took
Wow this thread really took off didn't it! I say big tub of milk and few packets of crushed up Panadol and leave it out at Hillary disabled jetty, that way they sleep forever , and people choosing to use them as Cray bait will help clear the bodies, humane and practical and no more pudy cats
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Rusty Balls
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Hey Rob H ,
Hey Rob H ,
interesting judgement ! Grew up in Manjimup, on a farm .. and just for your info I used to trap feral cats in gingin ..which were then killed as painlessly as possible.
Tradewind you have it spot on
what an variety of responses
:)
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Rob H
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sorry mate, but the way your
sorry mate, but the way your post was written I took your last comment to be sarcasm not a practical suggestion as mine before were also.
Looks like I wasnt the only one either...
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Rusty Balls
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All good Rob ..got a thick
All good Rob ..got a thick skin ;)
p.s. love the signature !
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Rob H
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Just looked at some of the
Just looked at some of the comments added above that werent there earlier and have to agree somewhat-not a good look.
The signature-was added due to the lectures most of us have got at one stage or another from keyboard warriors when posting reports etc!
Causing a general decline from people taking the effort to put together long reports.
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Rusty Balls
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yea I know what you
yea I know what you mean..don't worry I have an epic steep point trip planned in Jan .. expect a 3 page report !
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and I have Coral Bay next
and I have Coral Bay next wednesday 17 days. Expect lots of pics of howling southerlies!
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sea-kem
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Have just been literally
Have just been literally 100miles of shore from Karratha and yep big swells and strong s/westers.
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Rusty Balls
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AAhhh Crap ... maybe its
AAhhh Crap ... maybe its blown itself out by now and your having a ball .. maybe !?
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