A couple ID's needed please

hey,

all these fish were caught at lancelin jetty.

The first one i have no idea... closest thing i can find in the ID guide is a barra.....

 

second one i think is a blue sprat?

 

and thirdly, while i was looking through the ID guide i came accross "sand trevally" which looks like what i always thought was small "skippy" . was just wondering if i have had it wrong all along.

 

 

thanks in advance

 

matt

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1st- Sand Bass2nd- Looks like

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:31

1st- Sand Bass

2nd- Looks like a hardy heady- not sure

3rd- Tailor, Skippy,Skippy, Herring

Got a couple good work!

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 sand bass, hardyhead and

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:32

 sand bass, hardyhead and skippy

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cheers

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:33

yeah hardy head sounds familar actually, researched it last time i caught them but couldnt remember.

 

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Answers

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:33

The top two are, first a sand bass and the second one is a hardyhead

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Good bait.

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:34

Good bait.

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 sand bassHardy head or a

Wed, 2013-08-07 21:34

 sand bass

Hardy head or a pilch

 

And just a skippy

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 Good chew the sand bass? 

Wed, 2013-08-07 22:12

 Good chew the sand bass? 

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Used the catch the sand bass

Wed, 2013-08-07 22:59

Used the catch the sand bass up at Shark Bay

Parents called them Moon cod which i've never heard them referred to since

 

They were decent enough to eat if you can get them +30cm for a sizable fillet

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Eh

Thu, 2013-08-08 03:07

 Not sure what it is but i'll nek it anyway

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typical matt miller response

Thu, 2013-08-08 05:37

 your a tool

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Thu, 2013-08-08 09:35

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hey matty

Thu, 2013-08-08 08:46

I dont see the sand bass knecked?

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good one matt, shoot first

Thu, 2013-08-08 09:20

good one matt, shoot first ask questions later?

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Why do we constantly have

Thu, 2013-08-08 14:04

Why do we constantly have this negativity on here?. I agree it isnt necked and we dont know what happened with it.

Cmon and lets try and encourage post/photos. PM a question to the poster if you are concerned.

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Jumping to conclusions?

Thu, 2013-08-08 16:31

 I was referring to the pic of the Skippy not the Sand Bass.

Personally I think nearly all of these ID posts can be avoided by a quick browse through fishwreckapedia.

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doesnt really matter what

Thu, 2013-08-08 17:03

doesnt really matter what fish

Other people like to see pics put up

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Don't get me wrong

Thu, 2013-08-08 17:31

 I love reports, pics and questions as much as the next person. Keep em coming.

For me it's more the repeat ID posts about the same species that gets tiring. Perhaps we should have a 'tricky' or common ID questions thread?

Granted he probably has a point with the 'skippy' and I'm happy to retract my 'nek it anyway' comment. My bad.

End of the day I'd hate to see someone get in deep with fisheries due to an ID issue and hope most fishos try to get it right.

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No Matt, this is a constant

Thu, 2013-08-08 21:13

No Matt, this is a constant thing you do! 1st you jump on someone then when other members say you are wrong to do it, you come back with a 'My Bad' 'Jumping to conclusions' etc etc!... and then try your best to retract it by some other reason.

Just because you think you know everything and anything about fishing doesn't mean you need to jump down on someones post everytime you don't like it!

Do what most of us do, just don't reply if you don't like it!

I know of young novice fishers who read this site but won't join this site for fear of asking a question and getting precisely a reaction you commonly give! How will these fishers ever learn and ask questions if they are to be ridiculed every time they want to know something?

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1. sand bass2. hardy head3.

Thu, 2013-08-08 10:30

1. sand bass

2. hardy head

3. skippy  or silver trevally

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 There's a tailor in the 3rd

Thu, 2013-08-08 10:54

 There's a tailor in the 3rd also

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there is an echo in

Thu, 2013-08-08 11:06

there is an echo in here...here...here...here....here :)

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cheers for the replies

Thu, 2013-08-08 11:15

The sand bass was released

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 Sand Trevally, probably an

Thu, 2013-08-08 12:10

 Sand Trevally, probably an Eastern states terminology. Saying that I've caught most of mine from the sand so makes sense.

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The sand bass

Thu, 2013-08-08 13:03

is closely related to the barra, obvious by it's looks and we caught quite a few down near Tamala Stn, one we estimated near on 7 to 8lbs. We released all of them as we had plenty of other fish.

By the way, all were caught on lures.

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Sand bass

Thu, 2013-08-08 13:29

Best way to pick a sand bass is by the red eyes.
Get heaps of them up here, never kept one so cannot comment on eating qualities

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Hi Bruce i was reffering to

Thu, 2013-08-08 13:49

Hi Bruce i was reffering to his research on Skippy, you know how those Eastern staters have to name everything different ;)

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Do not

Thu, 2013-08-08 15:02

get me started Andy and to those eastern staters, got n e Dhuys over there on the eastern seaboard

 

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 Ha ha they don't deserve em!

Fri, 2013-08-09 06:04

 Ha ha they don't deserve em!

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 Actually the sand trevally

Thu, 2013-08-08 23:08

 Actually the sand trevally (Pseudocaranx wrighti) is a differnt species to the silver or skipjack trevally (Pseudocaranx georgianus). They look quite similar, but P. wrighti has a considerably smaller max size and different jaw shape.

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Sand bass

Thu, 2013-08-08 14:08

Eating wise suxs. Was given some by a mate to eat and just about spewed. Also got fooled when I caught the first one. Told it was a Barra and got all excited. Obviously was undersized so returned but as it was my first ever "Barra" I was stoked, until the fisho's there started pissing themselves laughing. Never make that mistake again. Fortunately it was years ago, and have barra crossed off the list since.

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mate

Thu, 2013-08-08 16:50

I looked at the id guide, sorry I missed it.

As for the Skippy, they were fucken size and I kept them . According to the guide they look like sand trevally.

I'll go back to reading and not posting.
Thanks for your input

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keep posting mate, dont be

Thu, 2013-08-08 17:01

keep posting mate, dont be scared off so easy.

This aint the only place in life where you'll run into that sort of "advice" and its easier to deal with here!

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Fully agree

Fri, 2013-08-09 05:40

, everyone gets perfect over time

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Keep posting

Thu, 2013-08-08 17:29

great to see pics of others catches.

The hardy head make good bait for tailor, if they are schooling, you usually find bigger predators chasing them

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*Edit* Haha, Matt, I thought

Fri, 2013-08-09 00:15

*Edit* Haha, Matt, I thought the same. Theres always those post mortem fish ids on here, but after rereading, it appears he knew they were skippy, but wondered if they may be sand trevs. Derp

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daniel y

Thu, 2013-08-08 23:00

That actually answers my question, thanks. I'm sure the majority of the people who read this post didn't know that, including the smart arses..

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 I learnt a lot of stuff from

Thu, 2013-08-08 23:03

 I learnt a lot of stuff from this post mate! Fuck the haters! Good work, good feed, just hope ya didn't stay all night for it :D

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the feed was better

Thu, 2013-08-08 23:25

It was a good couple late nighters on the jetty with a couple good mates. Lots of herring, pike and lots of other undesirables. And quite a few big runs. my first sand bass and my mate got his first catch on lure, smiles all round!!!

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 Nice one mate, sounds like

Thu, 2013-08-08 23:46

 Nice one mate, sounds like good times had

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