deep deep fishing
Submitted by thesupervisor on Tue, 2011-01-18 17:05
ive just been told im going out on fri to the trench past rotto to try for hapuka ect
prob is i dont have a electric reel as we will be fishing 200 to 300 mtrs
only sutiable reel i have is pen 330gti i have 1000 mtr spools of 80lb and 50lb
my sustain 8000 wont be upto the task nor will the 950pen
will this be ok as a one off trip will it hande a 30kg fish from that depth i know my arms going to be buggered after but its worth it or does someone rent out electric reels?
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Markie
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your actually goin now mate.
your actually goin now mate. How did ya score that trip?
Good luck anyhow :)
hlokk
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It's only 300m, you should be
It's only 300m, you should be fine for a trip or two, no problems. Just lots of manual winding :p. Realistically, you might not be doing a lot more winding than if you fished say 90m (seeing as its a bit further out and you might leave your bait/jig down for the whole drift instead of replace). Though it is usually at one time rather than spread out :p.
Havent managed any 10kg+ fish from the deep yet, but when i've been, i've just used a regular reel and was ok. For those 30kg monsters, most of the guys manually wind their fish in anyways. The electric just takes the tedium out of winding up de-baited rigs and those damn greeneyes.
mightymouse
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The 330gti will do the job
The 330gti will do the job for one mybe two trips but it will be hard work on you.
and 80lb is what you want on your reel
Can you get your hands on a two speed it will make it easy on your back
Dont drop till you know there are fish on that spot.
Hope this helps you
Ryan C
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deep deep fishing
i agree with the above but i'd rather use the 950 penn with 500 of 50 on it than the 330 gti thay are hard work in any depth, but good luck!
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To get Hapuka etc your looking at 300-500m so more line the better. The Penn 950 spool with Berkley Whiplash braid (being very thin) would be only just enough but ideal would be a larger overhead. Head out early before the seabreeze puffs, its starts early out there.
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Markie
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yeh i agree with ryan C. the
yeh i agree with ryan C. the 330 gti feels like ya goin nowhere even when reelin it in like a mad man.
allrounder
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Super
I have a rod and reel you can borrow if you need it.Nothing special but its a 2 speed 16s penn on a 24 kilo rod so will handle it for the trip easy.I think it has varivas on it.Not sure how much but it has been out in the 200s a couple of times.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
MattMiller
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if it was me
I'd be taking up that offer
allrounder
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i also have
a full black magic harness system i can throw in as well.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Markie
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you will definately have to
you will definately have to take up that offer :P
NOHA
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World of hurt
Take a kidney or shoulder harness, your going to need it.
Just winding up a full set of greeneyes and your sinker will test you after the 10th time.
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Ryan C
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deep deep fishing
good one allrounder !!!! well done mate!!
thesupervisor
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thanks so much for all your
thanks so much for all your kind offers but mako is llending me a penn 2 speed and rod for the day thanks matt
this site is so great to have kind helpful people thanks again
now do i use a pattornoska rig with 2 hooks and lots of weight
or should i invest in a few 500g jigs?
will be heading out with a friend who just got a very nice 34ft launch
leaving at 6am so should get to grounds by 8 am at a guess
pretty excited to have a crack out in the deep
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Adam Gallash
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Advice
I'd take some of the advice above, wait until someone with a leccy reel hooks up or starts getting bites (to a good fish) go up the front of the boat and drop. Good chance you will still be over them unless the drift is really bad, will save you a lot of hurt by the end of the day.
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thesupervisor
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thanks adam i better start
thanks adam i better start eating some spinich
only be 2 people including me fishing in that depth mate recons he has got a cordless drill hooket up to his reel
im in for some pain but it will be a experiance
just hope the forcast holds up looks ok at this stage
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Don't be fooled by the
Don't be fooled by the cordless,
It's for your kneecaps, in case you think about pinging with ya handheld !
smiley
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mate get a
electric reel, i give you 3 or 4 drops and day over, welcome to green eyes, fished that depth at least a 1000 times and anyone that thinks electric reels are for pussys i will gladly give you a ride and you are more than welcome to bring your manual gear, but looking at fwa anyone can catch a fish from 400m lol
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we use;
Patternoster rig, 2x 13/0 circle hooks, lumo hook sleeves and 150lb mono trace line with H/D tricrane swivels.
Heavy lead ie 48-50oz and if your onto fish & the currents good then 500g plus jigs work.
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thesupervisor
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yeah may look into a electric
yeah may look into a electric reel in the future
some cheap ones on ebay with line around $300
but early days yet ill do the hard work
my hopes are high but my expertations are not just aslong as we have fun
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good luck with the deep
good luck with the deep stuff. fished the 200 a few times and its a long way up, it is definatly do able but your arms do get a workout. would be nice to see you get a couple, just remember to take the camera
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Bodie
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Its not that bad fellas
Its not that bad fellas :)
I've done the deep stuff a few times, not managed any harpuka or bass :(:( but pinkys a plenty, up to 6-8KG i rekon, in 200-300m.
2 speed, does the job, spent about 6 hours out there prob did 20 drops, even worked jigs.
Just think of it as a good work out at the Gym. :)
Getting a 30KG monster might be a different story! but well worth it when it breaks the surface I'd say!