Do Fish have colour vision
Submitted by crasny1 on Fri, 2009-06-05 10:11
I looked at the bright pakula pusher Adam had with his blackie and it made me think. I am a science type person but with humans and i know that most animals apart from Primates dont see colours. I was wondering if anybody know if fish see colours or just patterns. Maybe the colour of lures is designed to catch us and not the Fish. I hope someone can answer this.
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Colin Hay
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These are three answers from three different sources
No, most fish see colors. That’s why artificial lures are often brightly colored. Some fish , primarily those who live so deep there’s no light, cannot see colors.
courtesy of WikiAnswers
According to an article published by Mepps ® fish do not have an innate desire for any particular color. However, some colors under various water and light conditions are more easily seen, which makes color a critical factor for some fish. Migrating fish like Shad or Salmon have eye receptors readily adapted to see green in the ocean and red during spawning, but will strike spinners and lures of any color if they can be seen. So color can and often is a prime mechanism for determining how spinners and lures will contrast with their background. In other words, color can make spinners and lures easily seen, or can camouflage the same spinners and lures making them.
Another function of color on any spinner or lure is to give degrees of brightness. As a fishes metabolism changes with water temperature, spinner and lure brightness becomes critical in attracting fish. Bright lures for cold sluggish fish and toned down lures for fully active fish. During a recent research project, observations gave credence to the idea that brightness may be just as important or maybe more so than color.
courtesy of Fish Tackler
The actual quality of vision depends on the species- some are built to focus far ahead, and others (like neon tetras) have better Peripheral vision. However, according to the Manual of Fish Health (2003 edition), “Detailed examination of the eye structure suggests that fish see the world in the same way as we do- in glorious ‘technicolour.’”
Experiments on certain fish (such as giving a food reward when swimming to a blue triangle instead of a yellow triangle) do suggest that most fish are not colorblind.
courtesy of Yahoo Answers
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crasny1
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Cheers Colin, I got a bit of info to. Had a little time.
Most predatory fish have cones that allow them to distinguish colors. Some even have four to five different cones. Incredibly, this means they can see colors we cannot even imagine. Reasons for this increased ability to see a whole new range of colors is still an issue for marine biologists and scientists. It may help identify food or it may have something to do with mating. The jury is still out on this.
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Not necessarily, they may
Not necessarily, they may just have more ability to distinguish colours. Our eyes can see all the colours in the visible spectrum, so within that spectrum dish arent seeing stuff we arent (they might see them a little differently), but outside that range (IR and UV) they would be seeing 'colours' we cant see. The use of UV for sailfish for example is quite interesting, so the bait fish must be able to see if (even if the sailfish cant).
Most lure choice is to do with contrast against the background rather than the colour itself though.
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Yes correct
But the visible spectrum is exactly that, visible to us. There is certainly "stuff" on either side of the visible spectrum that we cant perceive. Our vision is squat cf a hawks for example. And IR and UV is radiation like light and possibly if you have 5 instead of 3 cones in your eye you should perceive more than what we call the visible spectrum.
Ponders the thought of making a lure that radiates IR (not as heat) and/or UV. We have so many lure colours. I might paint on pure black and white stripes and see the result. Hopefullu it wont work because the bloody Magpies sure piss off everyone and I hope even fish. LOL
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eddie
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definitely contrast is the
definitely contrast is the key! I studied freshwater ecology in uni back in the states. One of the things we studied was fishy camo. Most fish are darker on top and lighter on the bottom. That way they blend with the light when viewed from below, and with the dark when viewed from above.
This also explains part of the reason predators have such an easy time picking out sick/injured fish. In our studies we would trim the fins of a few baitfish in a school. These fish could not maintain their balance; swimming sideways or upside down. This made the contrast obvious for preds and they were struck immediately.
I think this explains why bright colours work best at night or other low-light conditions.
All that being said...there is NO DOUBT that lures are often designed to catch fishermen eyes...not necessarily the fish's.
good question!
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Cheers Eddie
Yes I am a keen as hell fisho and lately have been so blown away by all the colours. A Pure white Richter plug catches as much fish as a Elton John Minnow. I am 100% with you on the contrast, but then the R2S triho that looks some how like a yellowish fish (http://www.river2sea.com.au/viewimage.asp?pID=676&iID=1&cID=234) catches more than any other lure I have used in dampier, and it is bloody bland??
Macks, trout, cod, Barracouda, Jacks etc have all nailed this particular colour. I now have more of them than any other lure!
Mate we can talk about this 4ever but I will stick to contrast,
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fish colour vision
A really interesting question Crasny1 with informative answers.
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It differs from fish to
It differs from fish to fish, big time.
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HiYa, I was watching the
HiYa,
I was watching the last half hour of a doco on SBS the other night and some expert in human vision has suggested that the world is actually in shades of grey and that colours only exist in our brains and that we only see colour because of specific wave movements of the object we are seeing. My initial reaction was what a load of horse sh.. but then began to wonder whether it might actually be true.
Still Not convinced though as it seems more than just a little incredible that everyone would see exactly the same colour when looking at something. Why wouldn't our brains see them as slightly different?
Hmmm, something to cogitate over.
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That's pretty deep Ody
But interesting. From memory some animals, birds and probably fish, use light reflection to create colouring. But then again, my memory isn't the best (Lol).
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