recon a drift would be better , only time I really anchor up is in shallow ( 20m and under) water and get the burley pumping , don't think burley will work out in 60 m of water , unless you use burley bombs , you will have to be real good at setting your anchor to get it right in 60 m of water .
Until yesterday I would have always said drift for Dhuies and anchor for pinkies, but we nailed a nice dhuie at anchor yesterday so I am open to the latter from now on. I may just give it a go on one of my favourite lumps.
My honest opinion is drift to find the fish and if you hit a school of them on or near structure then maybe anchor and burley them to the boat.
PeteB and I used a burley bomb to good effect yesterday to release a heap of pellets and cubed mulies down to the ocean floor in 45m of water. The result a hatrick for Pete and a lowsy scorpion cod for me. I was too busy filming Pete's fish to catch any of my own.
well drifting in deep water due to its really hard to keep on resetting the anchor again and again if you know what i mean....
we will alway anchor in shallow water ie below 20 meters easier to control an anchor in that depth i would surely say that you would catch more fish when its rough and anchored in shallow water then drifting the only time when we dont use and anchor in shallow water is when their is no wind but if i were you if its windy dont goout its hard to hold the bottom and a pain in the backside to fish in.
What I was asking is in water up to 60m so anchor up to 30 and drift over 30 or what ever the case may be just after an opinion I have always drifted with some luck in all depths but have not had any luck anchoring.
Using two anchors you limit the amount of yaw on the boat as it won't swing like it would on on a single pick.But stowing 120m minimum for each anchor would get very bulky and more hassle than its worth.
To answer Gibbsy's original question I generally drift in anything over 15m. It's my preference and they are all very short drifts. I start 20 - 50m away from the lump and end the drift 20 - 50m after the lump. I hate really long drifts unless I am chasing whiting.
Get in the strike zone as often as you can and for as long as you can. Mav's mention of the sea anchor is vital to help keep you in the strike zone longer.
Anchoring can be done in 60m of water with the right anchor and a good retrieve system where you drive away to retreive your anchor with an anchor retreive float, no more sore arms doing it manually!
You can anchor up on productive lumps and get fish that will often not take fast moving baits. The results on anchor can be very good but the sh!t fish also get in quick where drifting eliminates alot of that.
Anchoring in that depth is generally hard work IMO ie trying to get the spot exact and if the fish arent producing you gotta move on.
I prefer to drift, a good sea anchor will help slow down things and I prefer a drifting bait to entice the quality fish to strike.
Drift over anchor IMO but for shallow pinks ie 20m and under anchoring is the go, you get a few dhu's also doing this!
i find anchoring in that depth very productive but only on those calm calm days.(few and far between). i have a few lumps that if you drift over you wont get a touch but if you anchor the world opens up.ONe spot in particular is a funny spot to fish. got it form an old timer. well known for pinks and a few dhuies i have seen baldies queenies and big kgs brought up but my favourite is sambos. anchored up on what looks like nothing produces huge fish. a couple have made an appearance on here. burleying up is easy if you throw cubes overboard while your deckie drops a bomb take it in turns more burley that deep gets wider spread for bigger bities. this only works for me on a couple of spots. as for retrieving as someone already said ther drive away with the float attached to the anchor works mint less stress once its up you can just drive back to the float anchor waiting underneath.
Anchor retrieve floats are absolutely brilliant once you get the hang of them. Theres nothing better for getting well placed anchors off the bottom easily, well, from what I've seen.
We normally go the other way around, if the current/wind is too fast for a drift, even with drift anchor or two drift anchors out, we tend to anchor the bottom in anywhere between 20-40m. 60m is pretty difficult without sitting right on top of it whilst it drops as the current/wind pushes you too fast and the anchor doesnt get time to settle right before pressure comes on. We have got some of our best fish from being on anchor because it allows you to free float baits down to feeding fish without them having a sinker bumping them on the noggin. Having said that, also caught plenty of fish with a sinker bottom bouncing, guess it just comes down to the spot that you end up in - anchoring to a small lump is rather difficult when conditions aren't there best, but often you find even better spots close by as a result. Its a funny game fishing sometimes, guess its just trial and error and putting in the time to see what works best and when.
I usually preffer to drift, usually because I'm lazy and can't be bothered pulling anchor all the time. Drifting covers more ground which is a good thing but some of our best fishing has been at anchor because you don't move off the sweet spot.
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60m
You want to anchor in 60m ????
recon a drift would be better , only time I really anchor up is in shallow ( 20m and under) water and get the burley pumping , don't think burley will work out in 60 m of water , unless you use burley bombs , you will have to be real good at setting your anchor to get it right in 60 m of water .
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and have really strong arms
and have really strong arms unless ya got a winch to wind up 180 meters of rope(going by 3 x depth rule)
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I carry 2 different sized drift anchors now so I can regulate my drift speed better , recon around 1 knot is premium speed for drifting ,
again Just My HUMBLE Opinion.
I DON'T target Dhuies so can't help on that for ya .
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Drift v anchor
Until yesterday I would have always said drift for Dhuies and anchor for pinkies, but we nailed a nice dhuie at anchor yesterday so I am open to the latter from now on. I may just give it a go on one of my favourite lumps.
My honest opinion is drift to find the fish and if you hit a school of them on or near structure then maybe anchor and burley them to the boat.
PeteB and I used a burley bomb to good effect yesterday to release a heap of pellets and cubed mulies down to the ocean floor in 45m of water. The result a hatrick for Pete and a lowsy scorpion cod for me. I was too busy filming Pete's fish to catch any of my own.
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anchoring v drift
well drifting in deep water due to its really hard to keep on resetting the anchor again and again if you know what i mean....
we will alway anchor in shallow water ie below 20 meters easier to control an anchor in that depth i would surely say that you would catch more fish when its rough and anchored in shallow water then drifting the only time when we dont use and anchor in shallow water is when their is no wind but if i were you if its windy dont goout its hard to hold the bottom and a pain in the backside to fish in.
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Maverick
What I was asking is in water up to 60m so anchor up to 30 and drift over 30 or what ever the case may be just after an opinion I have always drifted with some luck in all depths but have not had any luck anchoring.
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Using two anchors you limit
Using two anchors you limit the amount of yaw on the boat as it won't swing like it would on on a single pick.But stowing 120m minimum for each anchor would get very bulky and more hassle than its worth.
To answer Gibbsy's original question I generally drift in anything over 15m. It's my preference and they are all very short drifts. I start 20 - 50m away from the lump and end the drift 20 - 50m after the lump. I hate really long drifts unless I am chasing whiting.
Get in the strike zone as often as you can and for as long as you can. Mav's mention of the sea anchor is vital to help keep you in the strike zone longer.
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Can be done but!
Gibbsy,
Anchoring can be done in 60m of water with the right anchor and a good retrieve system where you drive away to retreive your anchor with an anchor retreive float, no more sore arms doing it manually!
You can anchor up on productive lumps and get fish that will often not take fast moving baits. The results on anchor can be very good but the sh!t fish also get in quick where drifting eliminates alot of that.
Anchoring in that depth is generally hard work IMO ie trying to get the spot exact and if the fish arent producing you gotta move on.
I prefer to drift, a good sea anchor will help slow down things and I prefer a drifting bait to entice the quality fish to strike.
Drift over anchor IMO but for shallow pinks ie 20m and under anchoring is the go, you get a few dhu's also doing this!
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scotts opinion
under 40mt i will anchore over is a drift mind you i spend most of my time in 100+mts or water
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yes i like to
i find anchoring in that depth very productive but only on those calm calm days.(few and far between). i have a few lumps that if you drift over you wont get a touch but if you anchor the world opens up.ONe spot in particular is a funny spot to fish. got it form an old timer. well known for pinks and a few dhuies i have seen baldies queenies and big kgs brought up but my favourite is sambos. anchored up on what looks like nothing produces huge fish. a couple have made an appearance on here. burleying up is easy if you throw cubes overboard while your deckie drops a bomb take it in turns more burley that deep gets wider spread for bigger bities. this only works for me on a couple of spots. as for retrieving as someone already said ther drive away with the float attached to the anchor works mint less stress once its up you can just drive back to the float anchor waiting underneath.
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Anchor Float
Anchor retrieve floats are absolutely brilliant once you get the hang of them. Theres nothing better for getting well placed anchors off the bottom easily, well, from what I've seen.
We normally go the other way around, if the current/wind is too fast for a drift, even with drift anchor or two drift anchors out, we tend to anchor the bottom in anywhere between 20-40m. 60m is pretty difficult without sitting right on top of it whilst it drops as the current/wind pushes you too fast and the anchor doesnt get time to settle right before pressure comes on. We have got some of our best fish from being on anchor because it allows you to free float baits down to feeding fish without them having a sinker bumping them on the noggin. Having said that, also caught plenty of fish with a sinker bottom bouncing, guess it just comes down to the spot that you end up in - anchoring to a small lump is rather difficult when conditions aren't there best, but often you find even better spots close by as a result. Its a funny game fishing sometimes, guess its just trial and error and putting in the time to see what works best and when.
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I usually preffer to drift,
I usually preffer to drift, usually because I'm lazy and can't be bothered pulling anchor all the time. Drifting covers more ground which is a good thing but some of our best fishing has been at anchor because you don't move off the sweet spot.
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