Drum Anchor Winch Install
Hi,
Finally got the cash together to purchase an anchor winch for my boat. After a fair bit of searching I settled on getting a Lone Star winch as they came with good reviews and look to be about spot on for value for money (I couldn't justify getting a Stressfree winch for more than twice the price). I purchased the GX3, a roller, a chain guard and one of the wiring looms (thank god).
The GX3 is the biggest of this range and is pretty heavy. The unit comes with the winch/motor, backing plate, switch panel, actuator, and all required fixings. The wiring loom is based on some typical lengths and I got the 1000L (long) which was more than big enough for my 7.5m boat.
First up was to check if it actually fit in through the top of the anchor well. I had measured it and it was close, but getting it in on a bit of an angle was OK. Once in there was plenty of room.
I ran all the cable from the battery in the same place as all other electrical stuff. There was a pos and neg cable - the neg went straight to the actuator which is installed in the cabin. The pos went to the switch panel. Things are a bit cluttered in the helm area but I found a good spot just in front of the throttle which I think will work well. It needs a fairly big hole as there is a circuit breaker and some wiring which comes out the back. I measured up and drilled a pilot hole for each corner. I then used a jigsaw for the first time in my life. I am glad the cover plate goes over the top of the job I did, but it looks neat enough now that it is covered up. Only issue I had was the head of one of the screws shearing off, but I can't get it out and it is more than secure.
I then went back up front and installed the winch itself. This is a nightmare to do by yourself as it is so heavy and it is difficult to position accurately. I ended up measuring up and drilling from the cabin out using the backing plate as a template, putting bolts through each hole pregressively. I eventually man handled the winch and got the bolts lined up and installed but it was a bit of a mission. Everything fit pretty well but there was a bit of tidy up required. As my anchor well is sealed I had to drill a couple of holes in it to get the cables through. I put them up high to try and put them in a dry area. The cables are crimped to the wiring loom and covered in water proof heat shrink. This is literally the most difficult connection of the electrical system - so it is highly recommended.
The remaining cables join together at the actuator which needs to be positioned vertically in a dry area, so I chucked it in the cabin. I ran the cables to the winch along the storage area which I use to store the lifejackets.
A few pics of the (nearly) finished product are below. If I had my time again I would use grommets for the penetrations through the ally and I would have done a slightly neater job on the jigsaw, but apart from that I am happy. I also still need to trim back the bolts that are protruding into the cabin and will probably lower the anchor roller to the other setting as it doesn't need to be so high. When I get it on the water I will pull it up under load and see how it lies on the drum. At the moment it is a bit tight and I am expecting to cut some more line off it to make sure it doesn't bind up if it wasn't to spool on perfectly. There is currently 80m of line and 10m of chain, but I can drop both of them down if required.
Comrad
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Looks really good. Originally
Looks really good. Originally I thought anchor winches were a bit soft and opulent, but then I got one myself, and I have to admit it's pretty great. Particularly in poor weather when you're trying to free an anchor in the swell - no chance of getting pulled in anymore.
The install on mine was quite tedious as well. I had to offer the winch up to its mounting holes twice after I initially mounted it, then realised that I no longer had space to sort out wiring, so, I had to take it out and do it all again. Then once I had wired it up, realised that I had left the gland off the cable (I prefer glands to grommets or silicone) so I had to take it off and do it all again - very frustrating. Also, I had to mount my switch on the front instument panel of my boat, slightly behind the steering wheel. This meant no jigsaw could be used. It was a drill for pilot holes, a coping saw blade and a heap of filing. I was pretty over the whole thing by the time I got it installed.
Is yours run through a relay so that it only runs while the ignition is on?
jarrid
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No I haven't done that but
No I haven't done that but its a good idea. I have hooked it straight to batteries but I always have motor running prior to / during anchoring, and I will also get in the habit of flicking the circuit breaker when not in use.
p.s. I also intend to run some silicone in around the wires to the winch. I have put some extra cable sheath around the gap to stop the rubbing and I filed down the hole prior, but I want to see of they want to move before I silicone them up.
Vinesh87
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Thats flash!!! Nice work
Thats flash!!!
Nice work Jarrid!
NORUN NOFUN
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Nice job, I have the stress
Nice job, I have the stress free and replaced the bow roller as the straight roller will not lay your rope down evenly. I know you can buy them from stress free.
jarrid
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that roller is actually
that roller is actually curved, doesn't really look like it in the photo but trust me it is.
Jason P
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Backing plate
Looks good, as a suggestion maybe need to make the backing plate larger as it may tend to flex the mounting wall back & forth tending to stress fracture.
I have a Generation 1 Lone star, and eventually fractured quite a few welds in my Quintrex with all the load, all repaired now with a lot more welds.
DM306
jarrid
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yeah will have a look at it.
yeah will have a look at it. my boat is a westerberg so i rang the builder (drew) and he said to just keep an eye on it and get a bigger plate if required.
Jason P
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DM306
Carry
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Just waiting
i ordered the same winch about a week ago so just waiting for it to arrive so this thread is perfect timing ,good install by the way
We feel nothing but a certain difficulty in continuing to stand
bouttime
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Looking at doing the same.
Looking at doing the same. Where is the best pace to purchase and good price
Cheers
ranmar850
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I've agonised over this topic
Not whether to fit one or not, but the type. It looks like drum winches are the go in MOST respects, but...
Carry
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Hi tech
hi tech marine in morely i got mine from but freight was a bit steep up to wickham
We feel nothing but a certain difficulty in continuing to stand
jarrid
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got mine from there as well.
got mine from there as well. they are the only distributor in WA. could get them on ebay for same price but had to pay postage
camzak
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Best thing i have ever
Best thing i have ever fitted on the boat, i have a stressfree and its been great for 3 years so far. Makes it a lot easier on the deckie when you are a pain in the arse like me and particular about where i anchor and quite often have 3+ goes to get it right. Nice neat job on the install.
Camzak
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thats bloody neat, what would
thats bloody neat, what would be your guess on the overall wieght including chain and rope?
jarrid
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winch + motor ~25kg, 10m
winch + motor ~25kg, 10m chain ~15kg, 80m rope 15kg, anchor 10kg so give it say 60 - 70kg all up. they do smaller ones as well.
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Fare bit of weight then
Fare bit of weight then
jarrid
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all the weight except the
all the weight except the 25kg for winch is already there...
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Was just thinking of total weight for mounting purposes.
Your boat looks like it wouldn't even notice 25kg solid rig