Drum Anchor Winch Install

 Hi,

Finally got the cash together to purchase an anchor winch for my boat. After a fair bit of searching I settled on getting a Lone Star winch as they came with good reviews and look to be about spot on for value for money (I couldn't justify getting a Stressfree winch for more than twice the price). I purchased the GX3, a roller, a chain guard and one of the wiring looms (thank god). 

 

The GX3 is the biggest of this range and is pretty heavy. The unit comes with the winch/motor, backing plate, switch panel, actuator, and all required fixings. The wiring loom is based on some typical lengths and I got the 1000L (long) which was more than big enough for my 7.5m boat.

 

First up was to check if it actually fit in through the top of the anchor well. I had measured it and it was close, but getting it in on a bit of an angle was OK. Once in there was plenty of room. 

 

I ran all the cable from the battery in the same place as all other electrical stuff. There was a pos and neg cable - the neg went straight to the actuator which is installed in the cabin. The pos went to the switch panel. Things are a bit cluttered in the helm area but I found a good spot just in front of the throttle which I think will work well. It needs a fairly big hole as there is a circuit breaker and some wiring which comes out the back. I measured up and drilled a pilot hole for each corner. I then used a jigsaw for the first time in my life. I am glad the cover plate goes over the top of the job I did, but it looks neat enough now that it is covered up. Only issue I had was the head of one of the screws shearing off, but I can't get it out and it is more than secure. 

 

 

I then went back up front and installed the winch itself. This is a nightmare to do by yourself as it is so heavy and it is difficult to position accurately. I ended up measuring up and drilling from the cabin out using the backing plate as a template, putting bolts through each hole pregressively. I eventually man handled the winch and got the bolts lined up and installed but it was a bit of a mission. Everything fit pretty well but there was a bit of tidy up required. As my anchor well is sealed I had to drill a couple of holes in it to get the cables through. I put them up high to try and put them in a dry area. The cables are crimped to the wiring loom and covered in water proof heat shrink. This is literally the most difficult connection of the electrical system - so it is highly recommended. 

 

The remaining cables join together at the actuator which needs to be positioned vertically in a dry area, so I chucked it in the cabin. I ran the cables to the winch along the storage area which I use to store the lifejackets. 

 

 

A few pics of the (nearly) finished product are below. If I had my time again I would use grommets for the penetrations through the ally and I would have done a slightly neater job on the jigsaw, but apart from that I am happy. I also still need to trim back the bolts that are protruding into the cabin and will probably lower the anchor roller to the other setting as it doesn't need to be so high. When I get it on the water I will pull it up under load and see how it lies on the drum. At the moment it is a bit tight and I am expecting to cut some more line off it to make sure it doesn't bind up if it wasn't to spool on perfectly. There is currently 80m of line and 10m of chain, but I can drop both of them down if required.

 

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Looks really good. Originally

Mon, 2016-02-01 08:20

Looks really good. Originally I thought anchor winches were a bit soft and opulent, but then I got one myself, and I have to admit it's pretty great. Particularly in poor weather when you're trying to free an anchor in the swell - no chance of getting pulled in anymore.

The install on mine was quite tedious as well. I had to offer the winch up to its mounting holes twice after I initially mounted it, then realised that I no longer had space to sort out wiring, so, I had to take it out and do it all again. Then once I had wired it up, realised that I had left the gland off the cable (I prefer glands to grommets or silicone) so I had to take it off and do it all again - very frustrating. Also, I had to mount my switch on the front instument panel of my boat, slightly behind the steering wheel. This meant no jigsaw could be used. It was a drill for pilot holes, a coping saw blade and a heap of filing. I was pretty over the whole thing by the time I got it installed.

Is yours run through a relay so that it only runs while the ignition is on?

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 No I haven't done that but

Mon, 2016-02-01 09:12

 No I haven't done that but its a good idea. I have hooked it straight to batteries but I always have motor running prior to / during anchoring, and I will also get in the habit of flicking the circuit breaker when not in use. 

 

p.s. I also intend to run some silicone in around the wires to the winch. I have put some extra cable sheath around the gap to stop the rubbing and I filed down the hole prior, but I want to see of they want to move before I silicone them up.

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 Thats flash!!! Nice work

Mon, 2016-02-01 08:35

 Thats flash!!!

 

Nice work Jarrid!

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Nice job, I have the stress

Mon, 2016-02-01 10:14

Nice job, I have the stress free and replaced the bow roller as the straight roller will not lay your rope down evenly. I know you can buy them from stress free.

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 that roller is actually

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:55

 that roller is actually curved, doesn't really look like it in the photo but trust me it is.

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Backing plate

Mon, 2016-02-01 12:24

Looks good, as a suggestion maybe need to make the backing plate larger as it may tend to flex the mounting wall back & forth tending to stress fracture.

I have a Generation 1 Lone star, and eventually fractured quite a few welds in my Quintrex with all the load, all repaired now with a lot more welds.

 

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 yeah will have a look at it.

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:52

 yeah will have a look at it. my boat is a westerberg so i rang the builder (drew) and he said to just keep an eye on it and get a bigger plate if required.

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Just waiting

Mon, 2016-02-01 12:26

 i ordered the same winch about a week ago so just waiting for it to arrive so this thread is perfect timing ,good install by the way

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 Looking at doing the same.

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:01

 Looking at doing the same. Where is the best pace to purchase and good price

 

Cheers

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I've agonised over this topic

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:46

 Not whether to fit one or not, but the type. It looks like drum winches are the go in MOST respects, but...

  1. I have a Swiftcraft Dominator. It has a large anchor well, with hatch offset to one side, but mounting to the rear bulkhead would involve major cutting and re-glassing to reinforce, as the bulkhead is a double skinned and the inner one is only a veneer, really.
  2. And a drum winch will need a big entry cut through the deck . Taking one over the bow could mean 100kg or more of water in that well--if you are taking them over the bow, last thing you need is more weight up there---meaning that a larger drain will also be needed
  3. But the real deal breaker for me  is the need to permanently attach the anchor rope to the drum. if you are at anchor and have a fast running fish melting line off the spool, as happens to us a lot, the last thing you need is to have to recover all the anchor rope heading away from the fish. You may just as well sit there and lock up the drag and snap it off. 
  4. We currently use the float and easy-lift clip, works well,  do it myself often. But a winch would be better for adjustments in length, fine-tuning your position when you are fishing alone. Float is clipped to the line as we anchor---dropping it in a hurry just means untying and backing off.
  5. Gypsy type winch means you can just fre-spool off as you reverse away. I wouldn't ever tie the rope off in the well, just mark the last few fathoms with fluoro paint. The well is deep enough, the installation deckside is tidy.
  6. Gypsy type should be tied off? If it is blowy, you should, guess I'll have to stick the head through the hatch and do a couple of turns on the bollard.
  7. Most of the complaints with gypsy types are related to using the wrong type of rope and chain. Period. You can't just use your existing silver rope, it will jam.
  8. Ali boats are easy installs for this stuff
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Hi tech

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:49

hi tech marine in morely i got mine from but freight was a bit steep up to wickham 

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 got mine from there as well.

Mon, 2016-02-01 13:57

 got mine from there as well. they are the only distributor in WA. could get them on ebay for same price but had to pay postage

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 Best thing i have ever

Mon, 2016-02-01 18:50

 Best thing i have ever fitted on the boat, i have a stressfree and its been great for 3 years so far.  Makes it a lot easier on the deckie when you are a pain in the arse like me and particular about where i anchor and quite often have 3+ goes to get it right. Nice neat job on the install.

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thats bloody neat, what would

Mon, 2016-02-01 18:54

thats bloody neat, what would be your guess on the overall wieght including chain and rope?

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 winch + motor ~25kg, 10m

Tue, 2016-02-02 10:33

 winch + motor ~25kg, 10m chain ~15kg, 80m rope 15kg, anchor 10kg so give it say 60 - 70kg all up. they do smaller ones as well.

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Fare bit of weight then

Tue, 2016-02-02 11:37

Fare bit of weight then

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 all the weight except the

Tue, 2016-02-02 12:15

 all the weight except the 25kg for winch is already there...

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Tue, 2016-02-02 13:16

Was just thinking of total weight for mounting purposes.  

Your boat looks like it wouldn't even notice 25kg solid rig