Etiquette on the water

 Well i know this has been covered many times however what i experienced yesterday was by far the worst i have experienced in all my years of fishing.

Fishing a spot. Boat does a lap around me & then fishes 60m-80m away. Maybe had spot already, not particularly concerned but a little put out so i moved away.

A while later he blasted past me 30-40m off & continued on. We then moved on & bugger me a bit later this guy came & sat 20m away from me right in my drift!!

Couldn't believe it. Mentioned that there was a whole lot of ocean to fish in to which the reply was, i have this spot also! Was not questioning whether he did or didnt have the spot but just the pure arrogance & disrespect for other people on the ocean.

We then moved again a long way off out of his sight. 

I know we dont own the ocean but if someone is on  a spot you may have surely you would move on rather than plonk right next to them in their drift?

Puts a bitter taste in your mouth when just trying to have a good day on the water.  

Anyway was a great day on the water & bagged out with the biggest being a 850mm dhu.


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Theres some people that just

Sat, 2017-04-29 11:28

Theres some people that just dont give a shit out there. Have had plenty of dodgy encounters.  Seems like an asshole to me.  It gets very frustrating.

I passed one boat (Lets call it 'Leo' wanker) who was fishing 500m from the spot i was heading. I got there and did a drift while getting ready, I re position and in the meantime

leo had dropped anchor right on my drift so i would drift right into him. To me that is not on. He reckoned we must have the same spot.

There has to be some unwritten rules like surfing but no one will ever agree on them.

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 Maybe should have asked him

Sat, 2017-04-29 11:26

 Maybe should have asked him "what other spots have you got so I dont interfere with your fishing any further".
Sometimes sarcasm goes along way 

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I dont think that would stop

Sat, 2017-04-29 11:33

I dont think that would stop them Rob.  Maybe we need some hawaiin style surf justice!

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Sat, 2017-04-29 11:44

 Mate it happens to me all the time up here mainly due to visitors not knowing where to go. Last week I was anchored up and had a boat do three circles around us the anchored up right beside us within casting distance. Asked if he wanted me to move so he could have my spot but they would not look or respond. We up anchored and went elsewhere. Really pisses me off

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Good idea Rob

Sat, 2017-04-29 11:50

 maybe I should have tried that! 

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Sat, 2017-04-29 12:15

 Should have just gone and sat on a patch of sand and see if he follows then, see if he says he has this spot too, a featureless piece of sand.

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Thought about that later.

Sat, 2017-04-29 12:20

 Thought about that later.

Should have wasted an hr driving around sand patches!!!

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 I recall years ago being in

Sat, 2017-04-29 14:47

 I recall years ago being in a ring of boats around a well known snapper wreck in Warnbro sound some 30 boats and a clown decides he would anchor right in the middle, he must have collected enough sinkers that were launched into his boat and finally left, some people test your patience.

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Did precisely that off Garden Island

Sat, 2017-04-29 15:10

13 miles out and out of nowhere a boat comes slightly upwind of me, stops and starts drifting precisely my line.  Pulled in the sea anchor, motored and found some featureless sandy bottom and started a new drift......put some baits down to make it look like I was serious, trouble was the rods all went off simultaneously, three rods, six baits, two double headers of double figure dhuies, the third had two but one broke off, the remaining fish just short of a pb at 18kg......I guess I had the last laugh on the "drop in drop kick"

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Sat, 2017-04-29 19:52

Few weeks ago the wife and I went for a squid in the sound, set up a drift across a weed line and we were casting ahead of the drift.
No other boats were near us at the time, next minute a 6m boat heading 20+ knots heads past me, pulls up within casting distance and decides he will start a drift straight in front of me. Found it a little bit funny, the whole of the sound to squid in and wants to sit 30m in front of my drift.

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Happens every time

Sat, 2017-04-29 21:17

doesnt matter if your in close or out 20 miles 

to be fair I have been blasting out to a spot, get within eye distance of a boat 

fishing on my spot, so I fish one of my other 500 spots nearby

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 I'm reasonably new to

Sat, 2017-04-29 21:51

 I'm reasonably new to fishing/boating and my question is what is the consensus on what would be a reasonable distance to be away for somebody and be considered not invasive. In meters....? I have had other guys drifting near me on different drift lines 200m away and I wasn't bothered...

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Sat, 2017-04-29 21:57

 I wouldn't have a problem with just drifting into him. See what they say then, my dinghy is pretty tough.

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my spot my spot my spot

Sat, 2017-04-29 22:29

 What makes you think you own that spot

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my spot my spot my spot

Sat, 2017-04-29 22:29

 What makes you think you own that spot

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 While this sort of thing

Sat, 2017-04-29 23:32

 While this sort of thing doesnt affect me too much I can understand the frustration.
But these sort of threads inevitably draw someone like the above comment.

And almost as inevtiably, when you have a look?
Its someone who has never posted a trip report, in 4 years...
I wonder if its because all their pics have other boats in the background?

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Fri, 2017-05-05 18:29

 I don't feel the need to brag about what I catch, besides that some one might steel my spot

 

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 Bragging, sharing knowledge

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:07

 Bragging, sharing knowledge and experience or just corresponding with ya mates, whatever you want to call it.
Fishwrecked wouldnt be jackshit without people posting pics and stories up.

Theres another WA forum where they love those sort of comments, oh hang on, its dead now because the people who liked that soon found it wasnt much fun and most slipped over here quietly instead

Why not have a go at some meaningful contributions?

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:19

 When you want some fishing leasons Rob my rates are reasonable

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:23

 But I would have to take you to the spots blind folded

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 Flaccid

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:35

 Flaccid

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:39

 You can get treatment for that

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 I guess you are a bit slow

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:41

 I guess you are a bit slow on the uptake.

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Flaccid

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:53

 Come on you can do better than that I'm running out of popcorn

 

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:47

Think Id prefer not to go anywhere blindfolded by you, not with those fishing leasons (lesions?)

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 thank FK

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:54

 thank FK

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 It's not bragging mate, it's

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:21

 It's not bragging mate, it's called sharing !!

When people catch a decent fish or even just a fish they like to share their experience with others....That is after all what this site is about !!!

Maybe you should join the "grumpy fuck off and keep it to yourself" site 

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:27

 So why don't they want to share the spot they are on

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 From what I have seen most

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:48

 From what I have seen most will give a rough area, depth, bait used, conditions and what time they were there.

And answer any questions about the catch.

They are not going to give you waypoints, put the bait on the hook for you, hold the line until a fish bites and then hand it over !!

 

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 the orriganal whinge was

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:00

 the orriganal whinge was sharring spots or not wanting to

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Fri, 2017-05-05 20:13

 *original*

 

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 You got OCD

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:18

 You got OCD

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 *Sharing* 

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:08

 *Sharing* 

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 got me there

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:11

 got me there

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"So why don't they want to

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:16

"So why don't they want to share the spot they are on"

I looked back thru a few of YOUR posts, and havent seen you share any yet?
Hurry up and run out of popcorn mate so we can get on with LIFE

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 So people like you can reap

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:21

 So people like you can reap my hard work--dream on find your own fish

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What hard work? We haven't

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:27

What hard work? We haven't seen anything from you except a gob full of shite. Honestly have you ever posted something worth reading on here?

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 Why would I tell you where

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:31

 Why would I tell you where you can bag out in 30 mins. for you to go & rape it

 

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 Lolz I sense a troll at

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:38

 Lolz I sense a troll at work. I honestly don't need your bullshit Eldorado spots as I do alright. 

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 how do I get pics on here

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:42

 how do I get pics on here I'll make you weep

 

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 I doubt it.

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:44

 I doubt it.

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 The only issue I have is

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:56

 The only issue I have is people that think they own the ocean or parts of it, if they cannot accept other people have a right to be there then they are the ones with the problem, and people on  here are entitled to thier opinion even if they are wrong

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 Well that's never been my

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:16

 Well that's never been my argument, as the thread says it's all about ettiquette and manners. Don't put your boat on the forward or aft of my boat  while I'm fishing a spot without being invited and there'd never be a problem. If someone's on a spot I have then I go somewhere else, pretty simple. There's no ownership of spots out there as we all know.

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 Fkn right

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:18

 Fkn right

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you got it

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:20

you got it

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i've got buttered popcorn

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:23

 just cracked a fresh beer too... carry on please

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 popcorn and beer = poof 

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:47

 popcorn and beer = poof 

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Sounds like your bragging now

Fri, 2017-05-05 22:03

Sounds like your bragging now Derek, but got nothing to back it up so who knows.

What you are doing is called trolling, and its not part of actual fishing.

Why not just have a go at chucking up some pics and contributing?
You may just get to know some decent blokes here, and some who you'll probably never meet but would still go well out of their way to give you a hand if in need.

There are a lot of decent blokes on here, and they deserve better than snide comments etc

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Errr trolling is actually a

Fri, 2017-05-05 22:20

Errr trolling is actually a huge part of rec fishing

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Fri, 2017-05-05 23:23

 Might have been a little too subtle for ya Jack...

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i'm not fussy

Fri, 2017-05-05 23:07

 don't knock it till you've tried it

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Lol good answer 

Fri, 2017-05-05 23:38

Lol good answer 

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lol , nice one rob !!

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lol ,
nice one rob !!

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Sun, 2017-04-30 07:46

There's no fish at any of my spots so if you want to pull up alongside for a chat I'm ok with that! ha ha 

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 It's happened to me i drive

Sun, 2017-04-30 09:29

 It's happened to me i drive up to them and stop about a boat length inside them throw the sea anchor out turn your back to them and start fishing. They usually get thr message. General rule is first to the spot means it's yours until you move to your next.  if someone is on it then try somewhere else.  Not rocket science just common courtesy sadly lacking these days. 

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 Yeah it's pretty simple eh

Sun, 2017-04-30 12:20

 Yeah it's pretty simple eh Willo. Still too mant cashed up bogans on the water who think they can do what they like with a fuck you attitude.

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If I'm on good ground

Sun, 2017-04-30 10:03

I usually move off my drift line if someone looks like they're coming to me and start drifting over nothing ground. Sometimes they'll come and ping me but it's happened once or twice that they might've had the spot already marked or are just a bloody good guess. Either way I move on.

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 Last week in monkey mia I dove to small spot I got at back of the island about 13 mile when I got there there was a boat bang on the spot so drove 3 mile to a different spot I believe fist in best dressed 

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 I don't have a problem with

Mon, 2017-05-01 02:05

 I don't have a problem with it myself I would actually rather they came said hi ask how I'm going see how there going . Bet you have all passed a boat and wondered how there doing ., wouldn't it be nice if you could actually stop and have a chat. More than likely they have the mark anyway . Or when you see a boat drift off it have a chat. The social aspect of fishing has gone it's all about he pinged me I'm going to put his photo on fb hes driving to close to where I'm fishing pinger.. 

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i know what you mean

Mon, 2017-05-01 07:46

 on sunday we were fishin off mindarie and a boat kept doing circles around us watching us were where only getting skippy then they came within about 25 meters from us and dropped anchor but wouldnt look at us at all my missus finnaly got one of them to look at us and yelled out bit close dont you think and they pulled anchor and buggerd off people are just plain stupid or they know what they doing and dont have much shame or respect its wrong.

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I am with you Willy2668

Mon, 2017-05-01 07:50

 I get what you are saying & yes the social side is very lacking these days. I always wave to other boats but not many waves back. We are all very protective of our spots that everyone else has any way!!

Just a respect thing if they do what i mentioned in original post & that in there lies the problem. Respect.

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 Just another scenario where

Mon, 2017-05-01 13:24

 Just another scenario where the dickheads ruin it for everyone.   I do like my space on the water tho, unless I need your help haha

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If I am chasing hezza with

Mon, 2017-05-01 16:17

If I am chasing hezza with the kids I'll always anchor up near the other boats as it makes sense to keep them all in the same area but I'll always make sure I position myself so that my berley trail is going towards the boats that were there first within reason. You still cop a dirty look from time to time though.

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 Just fishing anywhere in

Mon, 2017-05-01 17:03

 Just fishing anywhere in general be it landbased or on a boat. Most people want to be on there own or a small group with family and friends  to get away from life for a bit..  it's understandable when people including myself get upset about someone dropping in your "territory "  it's seen as arrogant. 

But if the person/persons come over introduce themselves and ask if they don't  mind them fishing near by or what ever. 

I'm sure 90% of people wouldn't mind and probably would enjoy the company.

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Im new to boating, but it

Mon, 2017-05-01 20:47

Im new to boating, but it seems to me that a lot of boaties are just looking to snarl at someone.

Boat ramp verbals & smart arse comments - stinky looks - internet whinging.

I took up this hobby to relax, just chill everyone, you dont own the sea.

 

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Hey smidsy

Mon, 2017-05-01 21:25

 hey smidsy, would you snarl at someone if they pushed in front of you in a que at the supermarket ? Same dog different leg action when they drop in on your drift !

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 Most boaties are pretty

Mon, 2017-05-01 22:41

 Most boaties are pretty happy vegemites always a bit of a nod or a wave going past .. or a chat at the ramp .

 
Boat ramp etiquette , I imagine if your getting some repeat attitude at the ramp you'll need to address as to why . 
 
Main thing would be not to mess around too much and get in and out as quick as possible to the best of your ability .. do all your frigging around bit in the rigging area before and after   . Once launched tie up to end of the jetty and on retrieve tie it to start of the ramp to let people in behind you. 
 
Most people will be patient and may even help out if need be .. but if people are just stuffing around for no real reason holding up proceedings , they'll ark up that's the nature of the beast at the boat ramp .  
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And don’t forget to flick

Wed, 2017-05-03 16:03

And don’t forget to flick over your drive on latch at Daweville ramp on Jan 1st at 2pm in the arvo when you’ve been offered help and proudly state ‘nah she’s right thanks mate I’ll drive her on”…. I can still feel the shame haha

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 haha, solo retrieve similar

Wed, 2017-05-03 17:18

 haha, solo retrieve similar except when I took the boat out of gear the car and trailer started sliding down the ramp.
Shoved in gear and climbed over the bow to chuck a rock behind the wheels

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New to boating, says it all.

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:40

New to boating, says it all. Once you find a few killer spots for yourself then you might see where we're coming from

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 More boats,more burley= more

Wed, 2017-05-03 15:06

 More boats,more burley= more fish.ha. Just go to mewstones can pratically step from boat to boat when samon are there.

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I dont think anyone has said

Wed, 2017-05-03 15:41

I dont think anyone has said enough to "just chill" smidsy. Maybe take up golf as your hobby.

We could get right into it but theres no point. People have some sly ways of 'pinging people' I reckon. If you do it...Get F'd

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 I was thinking about this,

Thu, 2017-05-04 23:26

 I was thinking about this, and I just want to be clear on something.

 

So, if I go to a known wreck site for a fish in the sound, and there is 1 boat already at that site, then I should just go somewhere else ?

 

Seems to me that If I anchored say 50M+ from that boat, there's no harm. I wouldnt mind someone anchoring near me, as long as they werent within casting distance, and there's no chance of drifting into each other.

 

Am I missing something ?

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 You could put it like this

Fri, 2017-05-05 08:41

 You could put it like this ie : D9 and Mewstones etc when people are typically fishing large schools it's like a mosh pit at a festival everyone's on ecstasy and it's a free for all , go for it . 

They are talking about when you are 10+ kms offshore drifting / anchored over a isolated spot hoping to get a fish .. akin to going to some small pub to get lucky , putting the work in conversing with a lady for a while and offering her a drink and then some prick from no where pulls up a stool between you both and starts whiteanting by hitting on her himself . Breaks the unwritten Aussie code of conduct is poor form and warrants a slapping about . 

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 You win the internet today

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 You win the internet today Chris

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That sums it up

Fri, 2017-05-05 10:17

 Like most blokes I move off the spot if I see a boat approaching, last Saturday we got a little too focussed on the bite and sounder, look down wind 50m and there's a couple of blokes in an old glass boat watching us pull up snapper, that was a hard won spot 45kms off shore, yeah they might have the spot already but I doubt it.

Its not something I'd do, find your own ground.

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What moshpits have you been

Fri, 2017-05-05 17:50

What moshpits have you been in where people are dropping eccies?

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 Both the Harry Belafonte

Fri, 2017-05-05 18:07

 Both the Harry Belafonte and Nana Mouskouri concerts .. people were discarding their mobility aids and pogo dancing all night .

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Fri, 2017-05-05 19:06

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My fishing spots are so secret........... even the fish don't know where they are !!

Willlo's picture

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Date Joined: 07/10/11

 Yep find your own ground ,

Fri, 2017-05-05 15:13

 Yep find your own ground , dont be a flog and dont come anywhere near me unless invited. I go fishing to get away from the rat race and get quite angry when dropped in on or pinged.

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 Farkin hello Willo you share

Fri, 2017-05-05 16:49

 Farkin hello Willo you share first prize with Raffy.

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 Nailed it Willo

Fri, 2017-05-05 19:42

 Nailed it Willo

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Date Joined: 22/02/13

 I dont comment much at all

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:20

 I dont comment much at all on this site. But , i get pissed off too, when people are ignorant of our personal space .Most,

if not all areas within a 20 nautical mile from any boatramp, every trailerboat fisherman, should expect someone out there, to have that ground on their electronics , that your boat has . Drive around Perth in a car these days,.. a lot of ignorant drivers, a-holes, f-u people..,that just dont think , just dont care. Expect some to have a boat !

I have experienced everything all you fishos list, and more.

I dont suffer fools lightly. Its not worth losing your shirt over, a day on the water here in W.A is gold.Fish are a bonus. If someones dogging you, motor up and say gday,

you might be surprised with a friendly experience, maybe a novice ? If met with a negative response, well right there, the law of the jungle, but remember , not worth losing your shirt over, ever! Move on. Distance from tards is calming. If you are good at finding fish, it should not be a problem, lotsa water out there.

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Date Joined: 22/03/13

Fken totally agree

Fri, 2017-05-05 21:31

 Top post Savarna!! 

My usual crew and I dont head to where 10000 boats are. We find our own little piles of rock.  A day on the water with mates is gold! Fish onboard is bonus.... bloody good bonus though! 

 

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A fish in the hand is worth 10 in the water!