agree with you their uncut,

something has to be done

and fair enough to express your opinion, onya

but i get blasted for expressing my opinion

what a crock of shit

"fishing IS a matter of life and death.... fish's life and fish's death"

 and relax, please fellas

SPEWIE LEWIE

Cockburn Power Boat Member

I will find someone to build a solar powered transmiter and we can get base stations at every major swimming beach.Now all i need is some fit and healthy able body people to put on a mask and snorkel and swim along with a 4/5meter Great White with a hole punch and a couple of spanners to connect it .

ANY ONE HERE WITH BALLS THE SIZE OF TASSIE

Has anyone thought about how hard it is to connect a beacon to a 4+meter shark without doing it harm it is a huge effort .They did it with a large tiger it took several days to find it then they had to get it in to a position to tranquilize it then put on the beacon all without removing the shark from the water and still keep water flow through his gills.You are talking millions of dollars.While we are all debating what should happen to it has anyone heard if it has been sited in the last couple of days?It has more than likely moved on already making this whole debate a waste of time .We all know the risks so we need to move on.Does anyone on here think the man whos untimely death started this whole thing would want harm done to the shark right one or not?His family thinks that he wouldn't and that is good enough for me.I hope my family would have the same opinion if it was me that was taken.I am sure most others that know and love the ocean would think the same JMO Have a good new year and a safe one .R I P Mr Guest. 

yep, i gotta agree with uncut, they've gotta kill this one, and any other that comes too close to the shores (just the g. whites).

ever since they've become protected, they're getting a bit bigger and smarter, and in the past few years attacks and sightings are becoming more and more common.

a good old fasion culling is what is required here. WE are the top of the food chain, not that fat prick.

dont get me wrong, i actually love sharks (not sexually). dived with thousands of them over the years. reckon they're awesome. had a few close calls though, but nothing too serious. i just think that the situation with the great whites is becoming a too common occurance, and lives CAN be saved.

might be able to lease it out to the japs, as part of "research" purposes.

I reckon this argument always going to be devided i dont think its fare to kill a shark because it comes to close to shore but if they can be positive its the same shark being curious after an attack i think its time to take action why not bring in the old shark cages to swim in like dampier had to give people the option CHEERS SHAG

I knew Brian very well and I grew up in an area with the highest population of great whites per square kilometer in the world.
So I say firmly, if you don't like the risks, stay out of the water!!!
You want to save lives, start with WA's roads and start shooting a few hoons before you target a shark!!!
We kill at least 10 to 20 people on WA roads a year, vs maybe one by shark a year... etc..
We choose to go into the sea and take the chances, we don't choose to live on our streets with death, yet we accept this carnage like it was meant to be..

You not top of the food chain, you just have the domination of it for a few thousand years and the future may just be different!!!

Live and let live, they where Brians thoughts and mine too.

Full-time piscatorial-idiot, in The Vines. "It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC) Greek poet.
Supporter of Meals on Reels & The Wally Weight

If you walked into the jungle hunting and a tiger killed you, would you expect it to be hunted and shot because your safety was comprimised?

Leave the shark alone and stay out of it's way, it wont hurt you!

I like the tagging idea, and the tags they use are very simple yet sophisticated these days.

Insert with a pole then it releases and floats after a pre-determined time and floats to the surface, it then transmits all its data to a sattelite to be looked at.

Just killing them is a rather neanderthal attitude, we should use things like this to learn from and not destroy that opportunity.

2c.

If you had a king brown snake in your backyard would you remove it ?

I havent had a king brown but I have had dugites and I removed them myself or if i wasnt too stupid I would have it removed and relocated by a snake handler...but I wouldnt kill them!




To all the virgins..............Thanks for nothing!

we ARE the top of the food chain tony h.

when was the last time mr great white swam into his local human and chip shop, and asked for some aussie, $4 of chips and a pineapple fritter?

unfortunately, sharks aren't as smart as humans, and chasing a shark out to sea does bugger all. it doesnt learn what it did wrong, it knows how to get back, and it just learnt where to get a quick easy meal. i'm sorry, but that is the truth.

i dont beleive that the smaller species of sharks like whalers, or the little 2m hammer-head that was on the news last night are any threat to us, and i actually enjoy diving with the ones behind rotto. they are up to 3m in length and pose no threat (that i see).

BUT, as i said earlier, since the introduction of protecting the great whites, attacks and sightings are becoming more frequent.you cant hide from this. it is factual.

sympathy to the guest family.

do the math, load the guns.

Some pretty stupid analogies here fellas. The snake is in your backyard, so are your kids, dogs, wife etc and you cannot make a choice to not go there so I say the snake dies, not its fault it is a snake, but if it bit your kids, or the neighbours kids and you had a chance to destroy it before then well your call.

I agree with tony, there are a lot more FWIT's around that would think nothing of driving after a few beers. Having had mates who were killed and permanently disabled by drunk drivers I think that the laws are a farken joke. There is very little disuasion to not risk it after a few drinks, and the penalties are token. I can only assume that the revenue stream is the only reason we do not have harsher penalties. Hooning and drink driving should be treated as one and the same, car crushed, licence permanently suspended. Might think twice about it then if the penalty was so great that it just became a never done.

As for the shark, bit hard to tell if you got the right one, and it is a bit late for the shark by the time you know. Not sure if they are like crocs, and if so then yes the ones that loiter should be destroyed if they have decided that we are an easy meal. But my understanding is that we are a pretty poor food source for them. If this white had decided that feeding on us was the way to go, do you not think that the death toll and attacks would already be in the 100's.

Just a thought for everyone from something Tony said. How is it we remember every shark attack and all talk and comment about it for days ro even weeks after the event. But we never care to talk about or even give a second thought to the people that just died on the first day of our new year due to road accidents. It is a shame that we have just exceoted as a way of life that people die on our roads due to their own stupid faults or the stupid faults of others. I know this is a fishing site but if everyone could please just take the time to talk to family and friends about driving a little more carefully and not take the risks like drink driving we can save many lives a year.

 Now about the shark attack. What would we all say if we were on safari in affrica and a lion attacked someone?? Same sort thing isnt it?

otherwise this site is going to turn to shit

Boogernissan,Allrounder,Tony H,Dumper,Simon C go back and read your comments you are just throwing shit in people's faces because there opions are'nt the same as yours ???

This needs to stop otherwise it just turns into a shit fight
and gets locked not a good path to go down

JMO,Jason

Fishing isn't a matter of life or death, it's much more serious than that!!!

i only joined this morning after being directed over be a mate,and on reading this and the other shark thread,i personally think it should be locked to prevent further arguments,people are entitled to there opinions,fair enough,

 i personally think its sad that such a great creature has to be destroyed

cheers

what happens up north when there is a croc attack? they find the croc and kill it.

admittingly, crocs are a tad smarter than sharks, but as with most things in the wild, animals dont get big from being dumb. the bigger they are, the more inteligent they are, and since we decided to protect them, they're getting bigger, thus getting smarter.

 i'm not saying we should wipe them completely out, but just THIN the numbers out.

herk, tony h, etc i agree, road safety is a big problem these days, with 10 people dead on wa roads this break is more than concerning, but i'm on a fishing/diving website, not main roads.

kill the snake.

kill the lion.

kill the shark.

JMO.

most powerful man on earth....

"I believe that men and fish can coexist peacefully on this planet"

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RECFISHWEST Member

Crocs tend to hang around in the same area, while research suggests sharks dont to the same degree. Also, crocs are quite common being classified as LC on the IUCN (least concern, the lowest rating available), while great whites are classified as vunerable.

If the individual shark is likely to attack again because it has before, then that might warrant removal, but sharks are unlikely to get into the pattern (compared to other animals such as crocs or lions)

Great whites are quite inquisitive, (often curious not aggressive) and they have only one tactile organ, their mouth, so if they want to test something, they bite it. Most great whites break off when they figure out we are too bony underneath. Unfortunately that doesnt bode well for us fleshy humans. But its usually blood loss that does it, not getting eaten fully. But it does mean that if they are just checking what you are, they're not doing it for the feed, so they arent going to go hunting humans later. Bullsharks are tigers 

Dogs kill more people each year than sharks. So do car crashes, and numerous other things for which we accept the risk. I guess its the rare event, we havent become complacent like we have with higher risk activities, that and the idea of a shark is quite terrorising, sharp teeth and all. A car, while more likely to kill you isnt as menacing, and is a lot more familiar.

Though, what do they say about a life half-lived? Always good to minimise the risks, but if you stop doing what you love because of a very rare occurence. I guess I would rather live life to the full, dying doing something I love (hopefully not too early) than to never do anything due to fear. 

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Always interested in someone to go fishing with

 I think also with all the shark sightings there is more than one out there as we all know, yesterday I think there was three 3 or 4 sightings.  My two bobs worth, I believe live and let live, as long as they don't hurt me or Bob in the boat/beach, good luck to the shark or anything else that has teeth or bloody stingers.  When we swim in the ocean, I only go up to my knees as the dog is swimming with us as well or fishing on the beach, knee deep for me.

SPEWIE LEWIE

Cockburn Power Boat Member

Im not to sure what i think on it. If a lion was to attack a human it would be drugged up and moved. This surely isnt possible with something the size of a GW. Do we just think we are the top of the food chain like the GW's may think they are of the water. Maybe we really arent the top of the food chain but share the top of it with things like GW's and lions and so on.... Maybe us humans dont like to think we cant be the one and only ones that control this world

Mistaken Identity The most common myth is that great whites, with their poor vision, attack divers and surfers in wet suits, mistaking them for pinnipeds (seals and sea lions), their main prey. In this scenario, once the animal realizes its mistake, it releases the victim and swims away. "Completely false," said R. Aidan Martin, director of ReefQuest Centre for Shark Research in Vancouver, Canada. A shark's behavior while hunting a pinniped differs markedly from its demeanor as it approaches people—suggesting that the animal does not confuse surfers for seals. "I spent five years in South Africa and observed over 1,000 predatory attacks on sea lions by great whites," said Martin. "The sharks would rocket to the surface and pulverize their prey with incredible force." By comparison, sharks usually approach people with what he calls "leisurely or undramatic behavior."  "It is typical for a great white to swim up to someone at a relaxed pace, take a bite, then swim off," said Collier. This contrasts with the torpedo-like attacks on the seal, suggesting that the shark's goal is not predation. Great whites are also sharp sighted, further evidence that they do not mistake humans for other prey. Scientists believe that sharks see as well below the surface as humans do above it. And they see in color.

Kill all the Whites! Kill that HammerHead from this morning! Kill all the dangerous Snakes! Poison all the Box Jellyfish! Kill all the Spiders! Kill the Bees! Kill all the Drink Drivers! Kill all the murderers! Kill the Bears! Kill the Lions and Tigers (and any other cat)! Stop driving cars! Stop using Electricity! Oh and Kill all the Smokers to!

Just KILL EVERYTHING that could kill us, that will make the world safer!

What a Joke!

Thankyou for your interesting and constructive input Kingfisher.  Well informed and and meaningful comments such as yours is what keeps us coming back to this site.

Thanks again.

Is in his hands if he becomes a problem the fisheries will get rid of it

Obviously, it's a very emmotive subject, so feelings will (understandably) be strong and opinions (obviously) very diverse. The difference is, we kill out of choice with the knowledge we are doing so - other species kill out of instinct (I'm yet to accept the non human congnitive theory).

I immensley respect Guesty's family for immediately coming out and saying they didn't want the shark killed. It would have been so easy to say otherwise. So, maybe that's worth considering.

However, IF we do have a rogue WP, AND there is no other option available, then I would sadly agree with the action of last resort.

MHO.

Colin Molloy

RECFISHWEST Member

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

Last resort which i beleive they would have to tagg it and prove its the same shark

jmo,Jason