Fisheries NT vers WA
Submitted by Walfootrot on Mon, 2015-05-11 12:26
Ok, both can not be right.
WA has size limits and the NT dont apart from Barra and crabs.
most people believe that you can pull up a reef fish from 20m and release it with out harm.
Have a read and keep an open mind!
http://www.nt.gov.au/d/Fisheries/recreational/barotrauma.shtml
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More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
meglodon
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Good post
It would be interesting to see a response from our fisheries dept on the issue.
scottnofish
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yeh they have the attitude
Of keep everything its not going to survive anyway .i know through the tagging i have done that fish with barratrauma can survive fine .i have caught dhuies in 60m plus that have come up eyes and skin bulging with air bubble and stomach poking out gave them fuckall chance of survival and then caught them 12 months later looking healty
chris raff
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Pretty rare to get floaters
Pretty rare to get floaters from pinkies .. they seem to swim off strong initially at least , not all though . Out of sight , out of mind with the smaller dhus on the release weight .
I suppose the bottom line is if you get a couple of undersize move on and don’t sport fish demersals by dropping a bottom rig unless your actually chasing a feed .
Interesting they say "Winding reef fish up slowly or stopping your retrieve won't prevent barotrauma injuries"
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D_d_001
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that is interesting. I've
that is interesting.
I've certainly noticed the difference between small Dhus I've gone easy on and given a deco stop. (always have less "noticeable" barotrauma and seem more lively on top.)
Of course my findings aren't scientifically proven ...but it's enough to make me take it easy on what I think are smaller Dhus.
Walfootrot
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The thing is I went out on a
The thing is I went out on a charter yesterday, and there was a NT fisheries officer on the boat.
What he had to say was a fish that gets barotrauma has injuries inturnal that we dont see from the outside.
What chance would we have with damage to our insides etc or our guts hanging out our a$$?
The vid on the link shows what the fish go through, as he said some will live most will die, but out of sight out of mind hey
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
mallesh
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Thanks for sharing.
Definitely a topic worth reading and an eye opener to people who don't understand the consequences.
Keep Fishing. Stay Relaxed.
Walfootrot
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Ok now I am back at camp I
Ok now I am back at camp I can put what I think into it.
Some fish handle BTM better than others IMO, Pinks I have found release well, Baldies don't as most come up chewing on their guts. Dhu fish if you take your time bringing them up may have a chance. Anyone who has caught a dhu and seen the bubbles come out as it nears the top of the water will know that its swim bladder had ruptured and the gas has come out of its a$$.
To me releasing some fish is fine, the ones that can handle it. but to chuck back a fish that has a low chance of making it is a total wast of a fish.
If you go fishing and get 4 undersize dhus and put them back, lets say half make it and live, you still killed 2 dhus.
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
randall df223
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I think it makes much more
I think it makes much more sense to have a bag limit (of demersal fish not just a particular species) and if you catch ones that are 300 mm well so be it. That's what you take home. There would then have to be a regulation preventing you from targeting demersals if you had your bag limit on board.
I think it's worth a trial. does anyone know what rec fish west position is?
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Rob H
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do we really need more
do we really need more regulation, that is difficult to word, understand and police?
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randall df223
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I think it is much more
I think it is much more simple to understand than the existing rules. what ever the bag limit would be, say four demersal per licence, you catch four and then head home or troll, or head in shallower and go lighter for whiting. no more being concerned about what size it is. has my measurement sticker shrunk and the fish is actually undersize..... no more worry about if a fish survives on a release weight while you go for a bigger version...
keep the first four fish you catch and head home.
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Rob H
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yes true Randall, Id go for
yes true Randall, Id go for something along those lines.
The rules are overly complex, and Fisheries concentrate on some pretty stupid stuff rather than the bigger picture in some cases.
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randall df223
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I have more faith in
I have more faith in people's ability to count to three or four rather than remember different size restrictions and how to properly measure a fish....
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Yewiefish85
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If everyone is honest then
If everyone is honest then it may very well work but unfortunately there are the minority that would spoil it for everyone, as there would be no way to monitor people fishing, what would stop people "upgrading", I personally like the idea, just don't think it would work too well
Rob H
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theres nothing to stop that
theres nothing to stop that now either?
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Yewiefish85
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but at least there are size
but at least there are size limits, no size limit and just a bag limit i believe there would be more "upgrading" taking place also not everyone would just keep the first 2 demersals they catch, with the intention to catch larger specimens therefor defeating the purpose of just the bag limit
lastcast
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bag size limits
I've often thought that this would be a better system.
I think that fisheries laws should
a) assume that most people are honest
b) punish them severely if they are not
c) have a scientific basis.
I would be in favour.