fishwrecked comp id tag
Submitted by 2boatsnobrain on Fri, 2011-06-24 14:44
has anyone else had the problom of when you take a picture of the fish and youre id tag that the flash cuts out all the details on youre id tag and leaves you with a white blur , i lamenated it and it is now worse the id tag looks alright during the day but as soon as you get to any stage of darkness that you need a flash you just cant see any details
any suggestions ????
hlokk
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What kind of camera do you
What kind of camera do you have? If merely a fill flash, then adjusting the flash output can help. Also, it would be the 'highlights blowing' which you can solve by adjusting your EV down a few notches. This will be under the P setting, and will make the photo darker overall (so the badge doesnt wash out). Lastly, some cameras have something called 'highlight tone priority' and putting this on can stop overexposed whites.
Or just move so the person with the fish is facing the sun :p
2boatsnobrain
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yeah i like the last one the
yeah i like the last one the best but ill try the other suggestions i do alot of night fishing so ill look at my camera its a fuji finepix s1500 cheers
hlokk
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At night, try the EV trick.
At night, try the EV trick. Also, you can put a bit of scotch tape over the flash (or better yet a scrunched up tissue, or just cover with a single layer) and it will soften the light a lot. It could be that your focus is off too. If its laminated and its perfectly facing the camera, theres not much you can do unfortunately (but could try scotch tape over it, if you can still read it).
Should just be a matter of bumping your EV down a notch or two though, nothing too complicated (check your manual). Just try a few test pics in the yard at night til you get it right. Reducing flash power may help (depending on how the camera does it).
Edit: Whats happening is either the laminate is acting like a reflector (but you said it did it before laminating) or theres so much white around the lettering that the light is seeping over on the pixels of your sensor which drowns out the letters. Like when stepping outside from a dim room.
fishnut
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Matt's suggestions would be
Matt's suggestions would be the best, but if it is quick and dirty you want - you could try angling the laminated sheet, so that the flash reflects away from the camera rather than back at the lens. Might take a bit of trial and error to find the right angle, but it can be done. Otherwise print the tag as white lettering on a dark background...
2boatsnobrain
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yeh thanks guys i just
yeh thanks guys i just blacked out my spare room and had some trial and error i ended up making my own quick tag up and my camera has snow mode and that seems to have sorted the problem out and making the tag larger made it mor legible
thanks guys
hlokk
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Snow mode applies that
Snow mode applies that 'highlight tone priority' I mentioned (which is useful when shooting bright white things like snow or wedding dresses). Good to see you found an easy setting for it to work. I dont remember the last time I used scenes :p
thesupervisor
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hey matt you do know you just
hey matt you do know you just said shooting and wedding dresses in the same sentence
thats very unlike you ?
are you getting married?
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
hlokk
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Hmm, another sentence: If i
Hmm, another sentence: If i ever have a wedding, shoot me!
Just a lot of wedding photographers out there, and highlight tone priorty was pretty much created for them.
fisho-ron
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hey matthijacking the thread
hey matt
hijacking the thread but you seem to know a bit about cameras?
on a home security system they offer differant lens sizes, 6mm,8mm,12mm,16mm i take it that the bigger the lens the better the camera's image?
of course the tvi has alot to do with it but what about the lens?
thanks in advance
ron
hlokk
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Not sure what tvi is, but the
Not sure what tvi is, but the lense sizes are the focal length and is basically the zoom. So the 6mm will be a wider view than the 16mm which will be narrower (useful if your camera is further away from where you're looking so you get a more upclose image)
fisho-ron
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yes mate, i need a camera for
yes mate, i need a camera for longer distance with a better image, so the 12 0r 16 would be the go????
sorry mate its tvl, this is tv lines, the higher the number the better the image, my curent camera is 420tvl 6mm and at 30mtrs is abit blurry, i am looking at getting 700tvl 12mm lens, i was just unsure on the lens side of things.
2boatsnobrain
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yeh im not camera savy id
yeh im not camera savy id srill be develpoing film out of a disposable camera if i had my way
fisho-ron
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bencool mate, prob sorted,
ben
cool mate, prob sorted, where are the pics of the fish mate!!!
when did you go?
i did not see any fish in my cameras?
beau
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where will the leaderboard
where will the leaderboard be and have there been any photos sent in yet?
fisho-ron
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the leader board is under
the leader board is under that heading in the FW competition results, there has been no entrys as yet but i think after 2moro there will be some.
im heading out 2moro and will get something even if its a wrasse....ha ha ha
Mitch300491
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Im heading out tonight to
Im heading out tonight to try hit the leader board! Just finished laminating my ID tag, made 2 just incase i lost one.
I think the flash will also ruin it though... hope i can find a way around it tonight, otherwise itll be a shame to miss out.
fisho-ron
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do one with white writing and
do one with white writing and a black background, try it out before you go
good luck
hlokk
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Also, choose a large, bold
Also, choose a large, bold font. Nice and think should definitely help
Mitch300491
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Ill keep that in mind, i
Ill keep that in mind, i took a few photos with the tag and flash a bit after sunset, seem to have worked alright if you angle it ok.
Headed to the lower reaches of the swan with the gf, we both picked up 3 bream each in a couple of hours. All between 25-30cm so i didnt bother taking any pics with the ID. I assume one over 30 with get picked up over the next month.
thesupervisor
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i have looked everywhere for
i have looked everywhere for the post with the pics ?
can someone post a link to it thanks
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
fisho-ron
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hi matefirst pics went up
hi mate
first pics went up today.
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/fw-photo-comp-leaderboard-pictures-progress-feedback-password
if you want to look at all the pics go here
http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/fishwreckedphotocomp/
you will always be able to find it on the left side of your screen where the latest content/ latest for sale is, then the link is there for the
FW COMPETITION RESULTS
cheers ron