Footy trade action
Submitted by timboon on Fri, 2019-08-30 11:05
Could be a big cull at the mighty Hawks i reckon,
Here are a few names i reckon might be elsewhere in 20
Gunston ( currency and lewis and Obrien are our fwds now )
Bruest ( hope not! but he's got currency )
Burgoyne ( hopefully goes again at Hawks )
Smith ( had a good season but again has currency )
Rough - Grazing along side Makybe Diva and Winx
Puopolo ( still seems to do his job IMO, might not hit the scoreboard but sets up a lot and provides the pressure in fwd half )
Greenwood, Mason Wood, Brad Hill are a few that could be sought after now Coniglio has re-signed....
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I'm watching this space but
I'm watching this space but there's no text. Did you do the ol' Uncle double post?
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NORUN NOFUN
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Pfft
Pfft
That's actually a good one.
Doc
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Cats asking a lot for Kelly,
Cats asking a lot for Kelly, interesting how this pans out. My son reckons west coasts first 2 picks plus next years first will get it done. We’re back in Victoria now making our way back home, get there in time for Bathurst.
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Looks like it’s almost a done deal.
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Brock O
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Rumor has it were going to
Rumor has it were going to get Masten too...winning..lol
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Oh man! I am watching and
Oh man! I am watching and hoping and dreaming and praying this happens
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sea-kem
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Done deal, thanks for
Done deal, thanks for coming.
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Jackfrost80
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I feel like we paid too much
I feel like we paid too much and I reckon Geelong suppprters will feel they didn't get enough so I guess we call it a fair compromise in Geelong's favour and move on.
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We absolutely did, but I
We absolutely did, but I figure with the list we have at the moment we are in the box seat for a flag. Let's hope he can add some momentum.
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MyDisco2
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Fair deal..
Given where the Eagles are in their window not a bad compromise . This years 14, 33 and next years top pick or something like that.
They think another good shot at the flag next year then their top draft pick will be in high teens anyway so nothing special, and Kelly going to be a long term player.
Best to get the deal done as you never know what this season would have looked like if they'd got it done last year with Kelly in the squad and Mastiff already on the bench...
Cheers,
Disco.
Gadsy
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Hopefully a good acquisition for the Eagles
For what We're giving up in return.
Would be so funny to see Masten at Freo too lol.
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Funny for some I bet...recon
Funny for some I bet...recon they will get him cheap...we will teach him to tackle then who knows what secrets he might bring...as much as a biting little bitch he is he might help out.
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Crimes against mid strength
Crimes against mid strength
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Gadsy
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Who knows Brock O
Masten may turn out to be a good pickup for Freo, if he learns how to kick better and stop turning the ball over
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Funniest part
Funniest part is that Masten to Freo improves Freo's and West Coast's kicking efficiency
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Brock O
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No doubt...he's an
No doubt...he's an improvement on Langdon with Efficiency that's for sure.
Who knows...some players go from looking good in a strong team to looking shit in another...no sure I've seen this in a reverse case with players changing clubs. Lots of premiership players on the out have step up in other positions for other clubs...Hodge and Shaw come to mind.
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Ok...I'm clutching at
Ok...I'm clutching at straws..fuck knows what he will bring..
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Haha. He'll bring panicked
Haha. He'll bring panicked hospital handballs to his players, no awareness and HTB 5x a game, turnovers in the middle of the ground and 8 broken tackles a game. He will however 'train the house down' in the pre season.
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Well done to Geelong, worth
Well done to Geelong, worth holding out for 12 months, will be interesting to see Kelly's pay packet, hopefully he becomes the highest paid player in WA.
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Mastitis is not coming to Freo, we are trying to get rid of our spuds, not add to it. We’ll take our picks to the draft and collect the best WA kids available.
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Like Coniglio to Hawks, Neale
Like Coniglio to Hawks, Neale staying at Freo or pick 6 for Hill?
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timboon
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GWS reckon they'll play
GWS reckon they'll play harder this time round with the Hawks but what is Patton worth?
3 reco's and hasn't played for 12 months surely can't be worth much
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3rd or 4th rounder I reckon.
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Rumour was pattern was ready
Rumour was pattern was ready to play 2 months ago but refused to because he was shit scared of doing his knee again
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Not so sure it was a case of
Not so sure it was a case of doing knee again, more a case of giving himself longevity.
I think Tom Mitchell could've played at the back end of this season but the brains trust worked out a short term loss long term gain scenario.
Maybe back in the Ablett Carey Dunstall days can 1 player make a match winning difference but nowadays that's not the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hawthorn gave him the ultimatum.
Play this year and injure yourself in anyway before our medicos get you on our side then we won't want you.
Present as best you can in 2020 then 100% we want you.
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"Play this year and injure
"Play this year and injure yourself in anyway before our medicos get you on our side then we won't want you."
I'd put my money in this actually have occured
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Saints have traded their
Saints have traded their pick 6 to the Giants for 12 and 18 and have given P. Bell and Freo the big middle finger.
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May as well sit out another
May as well sit out another year then.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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LOL
and I quote: "If you have no idea, then just don’t comment."
Very sound advice
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Grundy
Bombers going to offer 8 Million over 7 Years, not sure what the Pies are doing to counter this ffs.
Skull
timboon
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Fuck Grundy, kick him to the
Fuck Grundy, kick him to the kerb and move on...
Midfielders just feed off which ever ruckman is doinating these days ( GWS vs Pies Prelim as an example ) so move him on for the long term betterment of the team...
I aam very happy to support a club that doesnt let the dog walk the owner...
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I must admit
Freo have gotten rid of a few spuds and may just be heading in the right direction now.
The biggest spud tossed is Ross the Loss and I see Hill and Langdon are on the move too.
The Western Derbies may be a bit closer next year......
timboon
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Although the public don't
Although the public don't like Lyon Gadsy he seems to be well liked amongst his former players.
People might also not like his defensive coaching style but not all coaches are going to coach the same.
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So if Clarko was to pull the pin at the Hawks
Would you be happy to have Lyon in the coaching role Boony?
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Ha ha , apparently Clarko
Ha ha , apparently Clarko was spotted over here in the west, headhunting more than likely.
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Buying real estate.
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Ohhhh plot thickens :P
Ohhhh plot thickens :P
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Langdon is officially a Dee
Langdon is officially a Dee and Freo upgraded their pick 26 to pick 22. May as well have at least asked Melb to chuck in some salt and vinegar crisps.
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Got something for him...he
Got something for him...he was gone regardless.
Recon the hill deal will fale...saints will be happy enough so far...Freo not phased regardless.
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Hard question to answer
Hard question to answer Gadsy.
I wouldn't be happy with any other coach if they weren't winning or showing change for the betterment of my team.
Having a great coach for as long as Hawthorn have had its hard to think of anyone else coaching really unless it was perhaps a Luke Hodge/Sam Mitchell type which I think will be what eventuates at Hawthorn
Old school styles...
Perhaps Masten might move into a coaching role at WC?
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Boon, Masten would be better
Boon, Masten would be better coaching at the dockers to keep the shit ball disposal and panic kicking happening
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Lesson 1
Getting caught holding the ball when you've received the ball with 15m of space 1.01
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Stats talk..
At lot of hate for old Chris and I know you love your stats Jack, so did you know that Mastiff disposal efficiency is at 77% compared to two of your centrefold pin ups Shuey at 65.8% and Yeo at 64.3%?...
People reckon the now dual Brownlow medalist for Freo cant kick either but he sits at 70% and considering the attention he gets every week I reckon thats more than a pass..
Cheers,
Disco.
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Stats don't always tell the
Stats don't always tell the full story Disco. Most of Masten's 'effective disposals' are a panicked 5m handball to a team mate under more pressure than himself because he doesn't have any awareness or the pace to get out of trouble. Most of his ineffective disposals are outside of our 50m arc when we are spreading forward and allows the opposition to waltz through the corridor for an easy forward 50 mark.
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True..
I never thought I'd see the day when you wrote that given you are the deliverer of some of the most obscure stats in the business.. Poor old Mastiff , never been the same since Nick Suban agressively used his fingers to target Chris' molars.. Or something like that..
Cheers.
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Growing up in SA I have a
Growing up in SA I have a soft spot for Adelaide, I would have no problem with Lyon coaching there.
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Patton future 4th rounder...
Patton future 4th rounder... Bargain!
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Worth the risk for sure
Worth the risk for sure
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I'm surprised no one has
I'm surprised no one has picked up Jenkins. I would've thought there are plenty of teams that could do with a big fwd
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Is anyone else quietly hoping
Is anyone else quietly hoping that Harley Bennell get picked up, now comes good and dominates?
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Billcollector
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Would you take the risk?
Would you take the risk? Maybe with your last draft pick after all is done and dusted just for a punt.
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Rookie draft him after a
Rookie draft him after a medical on a base salary and you can now cut him mid season if it doesn't work out. The biggest risk is his ongoing off field issues and how it may affect the group.
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Probably the best way to take
Probably the best way to take a punt on him Frosty.
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Be interesting if anyone
Be interesting if anyone does (Geelong) I think everyone knows he has had his chance, if you can't get yourself fit on the payroll he was getting before he is not going to do it on a rookie salery. I wouldn't give him a 3rd chance better options out there.
rather be fishing
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I'd like to see him healthy
I'd like to see him healthy and tearing up the field. So much talent gone to waste.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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If he does get an opertunity
If he does get an opertunity and stays fit you have to wonder why freo didn't get his injuries sorted.
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That wouldn't look good for
That wouldn't look good for freo if he did come back and play 10 games for someone else.
rather be fishing
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Would be good for him and
Would be good for him and Freo...they can kick the doctor out that couldn't sort it.
But as Jack mentions above....the biggest issue would be hes off field issue that could upset the group....like Willie "I love a Billie" Rioli.
timboon
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I dont think his off field
I dont think his off field carry on would affect most professional clubs if he had a bender and made the news...
If the Hawks took a risk with Harley and got him cheap and he played a few games before he got in strife i wouldn't see that affecting the rest of the group.
Some clubs it would no doubt but I think the bigger clubs that have a good culture it would affect their on field performance.
Silly Willys fuck up was twice as bad because it was right at the start of their finals series.
Harley is worth the punt i reckon.
I'd be more concerned his injury would flare up but really if you got him for peanuts then its no big deal either.
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I reckon it's a no brainer
I reckon it's a no brainer if he's going as cheap as a third tier Thai hooker mate.
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Dale
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Look like Harley will land at Melbourne, I’d be super pissed at our S&C team if he comes good.
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freo wins the easiest draw
freo wins the easiest draw and west coast get the worst, richmond get fed another gift from the vfl gods
timboon
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Not sure if you went through
Not sure if you went through it Gilly but its not really as clear cut as the way they rank them.
The only info they basically use is the form from last year but really they way a few teams usually fuck it up and a few usually blossom its not as clear cut as they make it sound.
The teams you play twice are no major threats, Richmond you go ok against, Pies you go well against, Geelong will struggle to make the 8, Port are fucked and Freo who you have beaten 5000 times in a row now.
Richmonds draw doesn't look overly easy, they travel to the West twice.
With ten teams in Vic the biggest clubs are always going to play more primetime slots on the biggest ground in the country.
Richmond might be having their time in the sun right now mate but holy fuck they they were shit for as long as i can remember!!