Furuno 295 with Airmar TM265LH
Submitted by seaswirl on Sat, 2013-01-12 09:21
Airmar info says that you can use the TM265LH chirp transducer with the Furuno 295. Haven't been able to find any info by anyone who has actually done it. I know its a long shot but has anyone on the forum heard of this combo. The reason that I'm interested is because with my Boston Whaler I need to go with a transum mounted transducer and I want a 295.....not very impressed with what I have read about chirp so far....
till
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Why would you use a chirp
Why would you use a chirp transducer with a non-chirp sounder?
There are other options than TM for BW, just they're more work to install.
seaswirl
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why
Airmar says that it is an excellent combination and later when the Furuno chirp unit is available I will already have a chirp transducer. Have you actually had experience with modifying a BW? Not to keen on cutting holes.....
till
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Just seems like a lot of
Just seems like a lot of beatup to put that transducer onto a $$$ head unit like the 295.
If its short-term, just save the $$$ and get a 585 and m260.
There is supposed to be an in-hull transducer mounting point on the Conquests, did you check that out?
reece
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I'm running a transom
I'm running a transom mounted 2kw 38 hz. An 1kw 200hz. You can get plastic moulds made to house the trany and a Ali or staino bracket to mount it. If your only going 1kw why not just run a 585.
Every one I know with chirp isn't happy with it!
Any one free to help me pull my drum lines tomorrow?
seaswirl
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interesting
I didn't know that you could get a 2kw TM, I would be very interested in seeing what you have done. I like the 295 because it seems like a heavey duty semi commercial unit and everyone who has one appears to be very happy with it. Looking to buy something that will last for a long time and not get caught up in gimmicks, I was thinking that Chirp was the go until I started reading about the problems that some users are having with it....
till
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You can get a 5kW transducer
You can get a 5kW transducer if you really want, could knock a few knots off the top speed though!
Any of the tank mount ones can be me made into a transom mount with a simple bracket, Southcity104 did that on his previous boat.
http://www.furuno.com/en/business_product/detail/marine/index.php?prdcd=FCV-295&category=Fish%20Finder&business=recreational
^^ look in the equipment list, to get the best of that unit, you're buying separate 28/38/50/200kHz units with 1/2/3/5kW output, although some are software tuneable between a range of frequencies.
JohnF
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My mate with a Boston whaler
My mate with a Boston whaler Conquest 285 has a shoot thru m260 in his and Barons old man has a shoot thru m260 in his 235 conquest, so it can be done, but a bit of mucking about.
My 235 has a specific putty box for thru hull (hole saw jobbie) which I am leaning toward, but go see Reece, he is the expert on Furuno.
Agree, CHIRP is not developed enough yet.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
till
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Level 23 Furuno whiz
I'm sure Reece knows a bit, but do you mean Rhyss Whittred? -> FW user PGFC
scottnofish
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theres a link here for what transducers you can run on what
and there tap settings http://www.furunousa.com/ProductDocuments/Transducer%20Tap%20Settings.pdf
JohnF
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Yep, I mean PGFC.
Yep, I mean PGFC.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
reece
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you cant get a 2kw tm. you
you cant get a 2kw tm. you get a plastic mould made that a in hull trany (rubber coated) sits in (wet face) then a L shape bracket made that bolts to the top of the plastic mould an to the back of your boat. we have done this in 4 boats an works well! you can do the same with a 1 or 2kw 200hz for your shallower stuff. you cant run a tm 260 and a big trany on the 295 as you can only tune 2 tap settings but you can get a tm 1kw single 200hz. we have it on 3 fcv 295s an one 585 with a power box to run the 2kw 50hz an wer sounding fish in 450m! you can fit a ca50bl-12hr or a ca38-9hr in the same mould. the 38 is about 10mm taller,
Any one free to help me pull my drum lines tomorrow?
JohnF
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Reece seems to know a bit
Reece seems to know a bit too.......
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
seaswirl
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THANKS
Thanks for all the info, maybe i can have a look Reece's set up and go from there....I think everyone agrees that the 295 is still the best for deep water at the moment?.....John what have you decided to go with?
reece
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I'm back in Perth on the
I'm back in Perth on the 18th seaswirl and will be making a drop down an mould for my new trany. Il pm you my number an come have a look
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scottnofish
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just make your own bracket
till
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Yeah, that is how
Yeah, that is how Southcity104 went for his previous boat as it was ali.
JohnF
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Still a transom mount with
Still a transom mount with all the associated issues though. How do you stop turbulence?
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
till
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You can fair it a little,
You can fair it a little, still not as good as some of the alternatives ;)
reece
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Iv got a bracket similar to
Iv got a bracket similar to that now an get turbulence unless doing 5+ knts to keep the ass down. You can use a similar bracket then have your mold below it! If your worried about loosing speed you mount it on a drop down pole. So when it's up you can still sound at speed then when you slow Dow an start sounding for fish you can drop it an extra 100/200mm to compleat key avoid turbulence. If I had a glass boat I'd be going southcitys way
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NOHA
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FCV295
Is a 3 kw sounder. If your not going to use that power why bother. Thats why I got the R299 trani which is a broadband transducer and gives a brilliant return on the 295
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reece
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Comes back to the issue of
Comes back to the issue of mounting in a Ali boat for me! And that 2 kw in 50 or 38hz is more than enough to shoot 500m with perfect detail.
Any one free to help me pull my drum lines tomorrow?
semperfifishing
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New to site
I am of course new here and am from the US.
Alaska and Northern CA.
I did not know if any of you have heard yet ...but Furuno is finnaly debuting its new CHIRP this week in the US at the Miami Boat show.
semperfifishing
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FCV 295 and the CHIRP units
Also...I have used both the FCV295 and the FCV1150 with several CHIRP transdcuers...the R111C-LH and the CM599CLM with superb results over the standard tone pulse transdcuers.
Natuarly it is a non CHIRP mode but the higher qualtiy CHRIP transdcuers used with a selectable freq soanr was most postive.
We did this as a test prior to adding a full CHIRP system.
till
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Hi Semperfifishing, we have
Hi Semperfifishing,
we have exchanged PMs on THT previously, not sure, but you're not shipping to aus at present?
We have a couple of threads on the miami boat show;
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/rumoured-date-furuno-chirp-release-feb-14
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/raymarine-product-news-miami-boat-show
Bye,
till
semperfifishing
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Till,I'm actually here to
Till,
I'm actually here to look things over and may add myself as a vendor on here.
Gil
till
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I guess get in touch with
I guess get in touch with Adam Galash.
Now, how about some fresh goss from that boat show? It has to open soon, right?
JohnF
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Hi Gill, welcome!
Hi Gill, welcome!
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.