What great restraint they showed before using lethal force, the first time the bastard came at them with the knife they should have shot him a large number of times IMO.
A big pat on the back for them I say 1 shot 1 down and he ended up cactus in hospital.
I'm a little dissapointed with their actions. Surely with all the food places in that area, the police could've got a rasher of bacon and jammed it down his throat with their glocks or batons.
I agree to a point, this piece of trash was known to authorities and yet again they wait until a dreadful act has been committed. When will we see a change in Govt that takes a proactive approach and remove garbage like this from society rather than be reactive at the cost of the general public.
With bacon fat under wax. What I can't understand he was a person of interest. Why didn't they kick him out prior to him commiting an offence which could have been avoided. Easy answer ,to many do gooders. Top stuff to police officers
They need to ship the whole family back home they.are of no use here lucky enough to have got a spot here first they haven't tried fitting in all there done is tried to plan / kill people, fuck em off good job coppers
Cancelled passport to stop him going to Syria. Should have let him go then cancelled it so he couldn't come back. Time to tighten the rules on these nutjobs and fuck them off from this country.
Agree with most of the above, its very unusual for Vicco cops not to shoot first and ask questions later...
Incredible restraint shown, If it was me he would've had a group of about 6 within the chest area as soon as i could have taken the shot...
We all have a responsibility to educate ourselves if we are going to make statements that may influence others when posting on social media, and by that I mean i dont have an issue with the Muslim faith but any extremism needs to be rubbed out...
Couldn't agree more boon , thought the coppers would have put a few more in but they where fresh out of training so probably not conditioned to dealing with shitheads every day of the week or jaded with the system they work under. Great way to start your career though.
I'd like to think that the Police make the right decision to take these guys out of society by ending their lives and saving a whole lot of bullshit with our court system and then the ongoing burden to the country as they spend extended periods in jail but then the risk of re-offending once released...
That bloke that drove his car through the crowd in Burke St should have died on the spot...
To ensure this happens the Police need to at least double tap em to make sure its a fatal wound...
A little disappointed the juniour officer only fired once but hopefully they are trained to kill WHEN REQUIRED...
I reckon trolley man mighta inflicted fatal jumping on head wounds had he got the attacker to ground, would be interesting to see how that would play out in court if a civilian was to kill him to death...
I reckon there would be a massive public backlash and over turning of a manslaughter charge should it come to that in a scenario like this one in Burke st...
I work with a guy who lived in Dubai and Qatar for a few years, he was telling me if you mess up they may imprison you (or worse) or deport you - either way - your whole family gets deported
Good enough for them - good enough for us! I think that should be the approach taken here - that might make them think before acting - deport the whole family - action will have consequences that may cause them to pause before committing an act like that
Not to sure about deporting the entire family. His family could well have been in complete terror of him and relieved their nightmare is finaly over.
Strange though that we call these "nut jobs" and whatever, but they are only just that bit more "determined ?" "insane?" "brainwashed?" "have more faith?" than any "believer" IE they fundamentaly belive the same thing.
In this case i I strongly disagree get rid of the family, i heard it was reported that his missus is also a brainwashed nutter and his brother was involved in the planning of new years attack , sorry but thats enough for me we don't need them here im more than happy to pay for their flights to fuck em off out of here
I was just being the devils advocate with comment above meaning I would not want to indiscriminatly deport family. but if it's confirmed that the family was in on it .....that's a different story
If they've had kids here then it becomes even more complicated. But the other problem is if accepted refugees then they are 'stateless' No ther country would accept them. Fucking lawyers field day, I pity the Germans at the moment they will have a massive problem over there.
boon and others , while i dont activly discrimante purely on religion or any other grounds
i would like to point out the muslim faith is very different to most others
this bloke and his family should have been deported back when we revoked his passport
it is not based on choice , in the main , it does not intergrate well within suburbs or countries , you see all over the world you end up with enclaves of major difference within countries where it establishes ,it supports women being subjugated , sharia law and many other ideas that dont assimilate or integrate well with our way of being here
it does not take criticism or compromise well , it does howevr endeavour to invade and slowly alter the coutries it is established in , usualy via the politics and gov within that country , setting up to alter their legal and other established norms over time
many european countries have now found their well intentioned humanitarian idealogies ,will be having fundamental ongoing issues for them into the future
it defies logic that anyone who wishes to stand up and ask these type of long term effects be discussed or debated is labelled a racist etc etc
the world and australia can only support so many people before all of its ihabitants start to see our quality of life and sustainability regress , thats a fact thay many who are on gov or politics dont wish to aknowledge ,
imo this needs to be openly discussed as acommunity and addressed , do we want the high immigration we have now , do we want sharia law ? etc etc do we want to continue with the policies we have in place now ??
i for one dont and would welcome a big slow down and public referendum on it ,
in the current climate you get labled racist if you even mention it , if your a male over 50 and white well ?? your voice is worthless straight up lol
the so called level playing field is not level anymore
I am again gobsmacked at my local MP who is showing herself time and time again to be an extremist apologist. Fancy downplaying a terrorist attack in the name of religion where a man was murdered in the street and multiple people stabbed with a car exploded by saying it's not as bad as domestic violence.
The only time I’ve ever seen her in the electorate is when we had to hold up the ANZAC dawn service at my kid’s school because she rocked up so late it had to be done in daylight. She only scraped through with 1,100 votes after preferences and I can’t wait until the Federal election so that I can play a small part in getting rid of her at the ballot box. I might even put her below the Greens candidate.
Hezzy its hard not to argue with most of your points however anytime the whole "lets stop the refugees" thing comes up i always counter that with then lets stop getting involved in war with the Americans who create so much of this shit...
When war starts people flee and rightly so, there is no better example than that than Iraq and Syria right now...
Its funny how we dont even hear about Iraq and Afganistan anymore because its now such old news that the story doesnt sell and when the story aint selling the jounros and the media stop telling it but the people still suffer...
Why did we go to Iraq - Because of WOMD - Lies
Why did we go to Afganistan - Because of Osama - Hang on a minute, he's a Saudi, his whole family are Saudis, they own half of New York apparently...
Why didnt the Yanks bomb the Saudis - Couple of reasons, they need their oil and they also need the 100 billion/yr arms contract the Saudis have with America...
But ah fuck it we'll bomb the fuck outa Afganistan until we get him, where did they get him, Pakistan, did they bomb the fuck outa Pakistan - No they've got Nukes
It all fucking stinks of money and power....
Back to Australia...
There are a lot of mistruths about Islam and people like Pauline ( who i dont mind in some ways ), often dont help...
To be honest i fucking hate all religion, like seriously what a fucking load of shit but there are certainly times when i feel for the ordinary when its the extremists that bring the spotlight hard onto the muslim faith...
I disagree with deporting innocent familys for several reasons.....
boon simple answer for australia mate if i was in charge would be to seek and place australia with a nuclear capability !!
now that may seem way out there as controversial ,
but having that type of detterent and we would not need many less than possibly 20 would go along way for us to have complete independence of all the other war mongering and need to follow others for whatever reason .......we sit on a huge supply of material that would supply our needs for generations ,, but we shit our pants about using it in any way as energy or detterent
while we do that we are vulnerable to others and cannot go it alone with any type of defence that would act as a detterent
on any given day another countries military could land and walk into our country , combine it with a hacking /shut down of communications/airports and energy /power grid , we would be an easy mark
the day will come when we will regret that imo , having been in a country just afew years ago that was free , then very quickly it was silently invaded and the gov overthrown by mercaneries it caused me to sit down and really look at how a brother nation did that to its closest family ...... no one saw it coming , but it was planned for many years ..just waiting for the right time to implement it .........we have a small population with bugger all ability to defend our shores if it came down to it for more than a few weeks
i would point out , australia is along way from syria or iraq etc etc .......... if i was truly in fear of my life and was a refugee , dam sure i would be only taking my family as far as i needed to to be safe , and that would be a country closer to syria or iraq that is also a muslim one ?? now why does that not happen ??
why do many ''refugees '' not do that ?? why are so many young men between ages of 14-35, ?? look in the EU ? huge amount of single males , heading into the countries with the best welfare packages to offer to them ??
if i was in fear of my life and my familys , last thing i would be doing is leaving my family , wife kids , siblings etc behind ?? one goes we all start walking imo
there is abag of issues with this stuff , but primarily we need to slow immigration and refugess down imo primarily as its just not sustainable to keep doing what we are
meglodon
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Totally agree
What great restraint they showed before using lethal force, the first time the bastard came at them with the knife they should have shot him a large number of times IMO.
A big pat on the back for them I say 1 shot 1 down and he ended up cactus in hospital.
Mulie
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I'm a little dissapointed
I'm a little dissapointed with their actions. Surely with all the food places in that area, the police could've got a rasher of bacon and jammed it down his throat with their glocks or batons.
Mulie
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Mrlickalotopus
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I agree to a point, this
I agree to a point, this piece of trash was known to authorities and yet again they wait until a dreadful act has been committed. When will we see a change in Govt that takes a proactive approach and remove garbage like this from society rather than be reactive at the cost of the general public.
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Hard one, personally I reckon they should have put one between his eyes as soon as he started swinging the knife.
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sea-kem
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Should have shot him in the
Should have shot him in the face and blown his brains out as a display to his mates. Good outcome anyway.
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little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Hollow point
With bacon fat under wax. What I can't understand he was a person of interest. Why didn't they kick him out prior to him commiting an offence which could have been avoided. Easy answer ,to many do gooders. Top stuff to police officers
Happy dayz
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Date Joined: 29/04/18
They need to ship the whole
They need to ship the whole family back home they.are of no use here lucky enough to have got a spot here first they haven't tried fitting in all there done is tried to plan / kill people, fuck em off good job coppers
Happy dayz
uncle
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Yep good result
Should have popped first up. The ones doing the credit card fraud should be deported, now.
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uncle
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We must be really dumb
This flog had his passport taken off him in 2015, what the f... is he still doing here!!!!
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Billcollector
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Date Joined: 16/05/09
Cancelled passport to stop
Cancelled passport to stop him going to Syria. Should have let him go then cancelled it so he couldn't come back. Time to tighten the rules on these nutjobs and fuck them off from this country.
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Hurricane
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Hats off to the trolley man
Hats off to the trolley man balls of steel
timboon
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Agree with most of the
Agree with most of the above, its very unusual for Vicco cops not to shoot first and ask questions later...
Incredible restraint shown, If it was me he would've had a group of about 6 within the chest area as soon as i could have taken the shot...
We all have a responsibility to educate ourselves if we are going to make statements that may influence others when posting on social media, and by that I mean i dont have an issue with the Muslim faith but any extremism needs to be rubbed out...
Billcollector
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Date Joined: 16/05/09
Couldn't agree more boon ,
Couldn't agree more boon , thought the coppers would have put a few more in but they where fresh out of training so probably not conditioned to dealing with shitheads every day of the week or jaded with the system they work under. Great way to start your career though.
timboon
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I'd like to think that the
I'd like to think that the Police make the right decision to take these guys out of society by ending their lives and saving a whole lot of bullshit with our court system and then the ongoing burden to the country as they spend extended periods in jail but then the risk of re-offending once released...
That bloke that drove his car through the crowd in Burke St should have died on the spot...
To ensure this happens the Police need to at least double tap em to make sure its a fatal wound...
A little disappointed the juniour officer only fired once but hopefully they are trained to kill WHEN REQUIRED...
I reckon trolley man mighta inflicted fatal jumping on head wounds had he got the attacker to ground, would be interesting to see how that would play out in court if a civilian was to kill him to death...
I reckon there would be a massive public backlash and over turning of a manslaughter charge should it come to that in a scenario like this one in Burke st...
pelagicyachts
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I work with a guy who lived
I work with a guy who lived in Dubai and Qatar for a few years, he was telling me if you mess up they may imprison you (or worse) or deport you - either way - your whole family gets deported
Good enough for them - good enough for us! I think that should be the approach taken here - that might make them think before acting - deport the whole family - action will have consequences that may cause them to pause before committing an act like that
D_d_001
Posts: 1522
Date Joined: 09/03/13
Not to sure about deporting
Not to sure about deporting the entire family. His family could well have been in complete terror of him and relieved their nightmare is finaly over.
Strange though that we call these "nut jobs" and whatever, but they are only just that bit more "determined ?" "insane?" "brainwashed?" "have more faith?" than any "believer" IE they fundamentaly belive the same thing.
And yep hat off to the trolley bloke.
Happy dayz
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In this case i I strongly
In this case i I strongly disagree get rid of the family, i heard it was reported that his missus is also a brainwashed nutter and his brother was involved in the planning of new years attack , sorry but thats enough for me we don't need them here im more than happy to pay for their flights to fuck em off out of here
Happy dayz
D_d_001
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I was just being the devils
I was just being the devils advocate with comment above meaning I would not want to indiscriminatly deport family. but if it's confirmed that the family was in on it .....that's a different story
sea-kem
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If they've had kids here
If they've had kids here then it becomes even more complicated. But the other problem is if accepted refugees then they are 'stateless' No ther country would accept them. Fucking lawyers field day, I pity the Germans at the moment they will have a massive problem over there.
Love the West!
hezzy
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boon and others , while i
boon and others , while i dont activly discrimante purely on religion or any other grounds
i would like to point out the muslim faith is very different to most others
this bloke and his family should have been deported back when we revoked his passport
it is not based on choice , in the main , it does not intergrate well within suburbs or countries , you see all over the world you end up with enclaves of major difference within countries where it establishes ,it supports women being subjugated , sharia law and many other ideas that dont assimilate or integrate well with our way of being here
it does not take criticism or compromise well , it does howevr endeavour to invade and slowly alter the coutries it is established in , usualy via the politics and gov within that country , setting up to alter their legal and other established norms over time
many european countries have now found their well intentioned humanitarian idealogies ,will be having fundamental ongoing issues for them into the future
it defies logic that anyone who wishes to stand up and ask these type of long term effects be discussed or debated is labelled a racist etc etc
the world and australia can only support so many people before all of its ihabitants start to see our quality of life and sustainability regress , thats a fact thay many who are on gov or politics dont wish to aknowledge ,
imo this needs to be openly discussed as acommunity and addressed , do we want the high immigration we have now , do we want sharia law ? etc etc do we want to continue with the policies we have in place now ??
i for one dont and would welcome a big slow down and public referendum on it ,
in the current climate you get labled racist if you even mention it , if your a male over 50 and white well ?? your voice is worthless straight up lol
the so called level playing field is not level anymore
so fire at will ??
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uncle
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Agree 100% hezzy
Sad thing is I can't see it getting any better.
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Jackfrost80
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I am again gobsmacked at my
I am again gobsmacked at my local MP who is showing herself time and time again to be an extremist apologist. Fancy downplaying a terrorist attack in the name of religion where a man was murdered in the street and multiple people stabbed with a car exploded by saying it's not as bad as domestic violence.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
D_d_001
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i call bullshit !
about putting her below the greens candidate :)
uncle
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She's a class act
Allright.
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timboon
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Hezzy its hard not to argue
Hezzy its hard not to argue with most of your points however anytime the whole "lets stop the refugees" thing comes up i always counter that with then lets stop getting involved in war with the Americans who create so much of this shit...
When war starts people flee and rightly so, there is no better example than that than Iraq and Syria right now...
Its funny how we dont even hear about Iraq and Afganistan anymore because its now such old news that the story doesnt sell and when the story aint selling the jounros and the media stop telling it but the people still suffer...
Why did we go to Iraq - Because of WOMD - Lies
Why did we go to Afganistan - Because of Osama - Hang on a minute, he's a Saudi, his whole family are Saudis, they own half of New York apparently...
Why didnt the Yanks bomb the Saudis - Couple of reasons, they need their oil and they also need the 100 billion/yr arms contract the Saudis have with America...
But ah fuck it we'll bomb the fuck outa Afganistan until we get him, where did they get him, Pakistan, did they bomb the fuck outa Pakistan - No they've got Nukes
It all fucking stinks of money and power....
Back to Australia...
There are a lot of mistruths about Islam and people like Pauline ( who i dont mind in some ways ), often dont help...
To be honest i fucking hate all religion, like seriously what a fucking load of shit but there are certainly times when i feel for the ordinary when its the extremists that bring the spotlight hard onto the muslim faith...
I disagree with deporting innocent familys for several reasons.....
Spinnerak
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+1
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hezzy
Posts: 1519
Date Joined: 27/11/09
boon simple answer for
boon simple answer for australia mate if i was in charge would be to seek and place australia with a nuclear capability !!
now that may seem way out there as controversial ,
but having that type of detterent and we would not need many less than possibly 20 would go along way for us to have complete independence of all the other war mongering and need to follow others for whatever reason .......we sit on a huge supply of material that would supply our needs for generations ,, but we shit our pants about using it in any way as energy or detterent
while we do that we are vulnerable to others and cannot go it alone with any type of defence that would act as a detterent
on any given day another countries military could land and walk into our country , combine it with a hacking /shut down of communications/airports and energy /power grid , we would be an easy mark
the day will come when we will regret that imo , having been in a country just afew years ago that was free , then very quickly it was silently invaded and the gov overthrown by mercaneries it caused me to sit down and really look at how a brother nation did that to its closest family ...... no one saw it coming , but it was planned for many years ..just waiting for the right time to implement it .........we have a small population with bugger all ability to defend our shores if it came down to it for more than a few weeks
i would point out , australia is along way from syria or iraq etc etc .......... if i was truly in fear of my life and was a refugee , dam sure i would be only taking my family as far as i needed to to be safe , and that would be a country closer to syria or iraq that is also a muslim one ?? now why does that not happen ??
why do many ''refugees '' not do that ?? why are so many young men between ages of 14-35, ?? look in the EU ? huge amount of single males , heading into the countries with the best welfare packages to offer to them ??
if i was in fear of my life and my familys , last thing i would be doing is leaving my family , wife kids , siblings etc behind ?? one goes we all start walking imo
there is abag of issues with this stuff , but primarily we need to slow immigration and refugess down imo primarily as its just not sustainable to keep doing what we are
OFW 11
evil flourishes when good men do nothing