Great image of humpback on the sounder

I thought this pic was worth posting. Its a humpback. Taken on a raymarine sounder. Pretty special image recieved on the sounder i thought.

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thats cool. some say the

Wed, 2011-04-27 09:56

thats cool. 

some say the image you get as a return from the fish is from the swim bladder , but that suggests otherwise

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not true mate, even jelly

Wed, 2011-04-27 11:04

not true mate, even jelly fish show up on sounders,

The echo return is dependent on density reflecting the sound waves back and as Holk says, they can show the density gradient. You get a picture of the density in the water, where clear is water and anything denser or lighter will come up as an image.

with most fish the biggest density difference is between the flesh and fish bladder and thats why it stands out most. BUT some good sounders will show the whole body lenght if it's a big and dense muscle fish. or a dense spinal collumb as well will show up. This whale pic would show the huger back bone and fins as well as the huge jaw and tail strcuture.

I have seen images of divers on sounders before and even picked up my own bait sinking away and jigs on the sounder.

 

 

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er.. i think you're in

Wed, 2011-04-27 11:11

er.. i think you're in agreement with me then tony , unless i've misunderstood.

i was saying  i didn't think you needed a swim bladder to get a return .   and being able to watch a jig or weight heading to the bottom on your sounder ought to prove it.

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lo.l  yes brain still on

Wed, 2011-04-27 11:25

lo.l  yes brain still on holiday...lol I am in agreement

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LOL....yeah and the thick red

Wed, 2011-04-27 12:04

LOL....yeah and the thick red line on the surface is cryll.

 

I can also see the skippy swimming under it!...lol

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that is a sweet shot

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:14

that is a sweet shot

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Pretty amazing image. Was the

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:22

Pretty amazing image. Was the boat moving over the whale or the whale moving under the boat?

 

Grayzee- the sounders pick up changes in density, and a swim bladder is a huge change in density, so is the easiest thing for a sounder to pick up. For the whale, i assume either the whale either has flesh a bit less penetrable to sonar than fish, or just the fact its so big, it still comes up on the sounder. Keep in mind most sounders still pick up weed for example. I think with fish you'd still get reflections from the fish, just that the swim bladder is a much stronger signal?

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 you can make out the pec

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:50

 you can make out the pec fins even. (at least i think thats likely to be them over wierd shaped lungs)

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 loch ness monster

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:41

 loch ness monster

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stationary

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:46

but i think there was a fairly strong tide. 1 knot +

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Yip I agree it was Nessie on

Wed, 2011-04-27 10:58

Yip I agree it was Nessie on her summer vaccation to Aus-land....lol

 

Now to send it off to 7 News and tell them we have a monster off the north,,,lol

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 That one musta gone close!

Wed, 2011-04-27 11:56

 That one musta gone close! Not sure if you saw this one of mine before... not quite as clear but still pretty cool I thought.

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ha.   awesome shot too.

Wed, 2011-04-27 12:10

ha.   awesome shot too.

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