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 not a fishing subject , but have to say what a magnificent effort from all the international cave diving experts and the thai divers , SA doctor and his dive buddy from wa should be aussies of the year                


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 yeah they did a great job

Fri, 2018-07-13 19:42

 yeah they did a great job getting them all out of the cave. it is a pity one of the rescue team died.from all accounts all the kids came out in good spirits . 

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For once I agree

Fri, 2018-07-13 19:44

With you peter.unreal outcome , Unfortunately 1 diver lost his life.which was tragic.on bright side all kids safe. Stuff cave diving balls of steel.

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 They certainly should be,

Fri, 2018-07-13 20:03

 They certainly should be, but it will likely be a "hero" cricketer/footballer or similar

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Steve Waugh was the last

Sat, 2018-07-14 07:53

Steve Waugh was the last cricket recipient in 2004 and deservedly so, ghe man should be knighted. The only football recipient was Goodes but it was for founding the Go Foundation.

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out of curiousity why

Sat, 2018-07-14 11:09

out of curiousity why deservedly so?
I dont have much interest in cricket so I dont know much about his exploits?

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Leading by example he took

Sat, 2018-07-14 12:52

Leading by example he took Australia from a thereabouts decent side to arguably the best side ever and was a ruthless yet fair captain that stamped a culture into the side sadly lacking today. After seeing the squalid conditions on an Indian tour he also dedicated significant time and his own money into making life better for children in orphanages there which led to founding of the Steve Waugh Foundation.

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 Leading a sports team means

Sat, 2018-07-14 15:23

 Leading a sports team means nothing in terms of "heroism" or Australian of the Year and actually demeans the award in many peoples eyes-but I suspect thats your sense of humour .

The other stuff for sure has a great effect on lives and is worthy.

Whether there were lower profile people who put more on the line-that is often the question?

Obviously it is much less of a sacrifice for a multi multi millionaire to motivate others and achieve such an outcome than say someone who has volunteered all their lives for Red Cross etc etc

Personally, I think its better served going to someone of a lower profile whose deeds will further benefit from the profile and attention.

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 There's a woman down the

Sat, 2018-07-14 15:33

 There's a woman down the road from us who runs a homeless kitchen, she does it all off her own back and relies soley on donations from the public to keep it going. She gets a little help sometimes from the local Rotary and that's about it. My wife will drop off Veggies and big bags of rice now and then to help. It's people like this who are unsung and do not do it for recognition but pure compassion. I see a lot of the homelss she feeds and a lot are affected by mental issues and have seen a few go off at local businesses (most of the coffee shops along the strip give them free coffee and pastries)  but mainly they keep to themselves, they are the forgotten. 

My point is this woman fits the profile of an Australian hero.

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Certainly does

Sat, 2018-07-14 15:43

Put her in that league.

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Tis a flawed concept indeed

Sat, 2018-07-14 18:36

Tis a flawed concept indeed Rob. Last year's recipient was a pommie who would like to build some super computer. You know coz women in science yada yada

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Won't be long

Fri, 2018-07-13 20:08

 and they'll make a movie from it.  They did a great job for all involved 

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 Its already underway, by an

Sat, 2018-07-14 11:13

 Its already underway, by an American film crew.
However its going to be a love story, set in Hawaii and the US special forces did it alone 

The last bit I jest, first bit is true though
https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/7/13/17566250/thai-cave-rescue-movie-pureflix-jon-chu-whitewashing

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Heros

Fri, 2018-07-13 22:45

IMO the word hero is bandied around by the press far to often and loosely.

However the two Australians who helped, along with members of the Thai S E A L S are in every sense true heroes and deserving of the word attached to their heroic efforts to save all those trapped in the cave.

It is tragic that a Thai diver lost his life in the rescue operation his loss of life was not in vain and he no doubt contributed to the success of the rescue effort.

I believe that on one of the tv news reported the PM is looking at awarding the two Australians the highest civilian award for bravery, and IMO rightfully so.

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100 percent agree

Fri, 2018-07-13 23:20

Stunning effort, some (($$&&@@ ) put on a video of cave diving rescues in crystal clear water .....this wasn't clear, Vis was ZERO ......totally by touch and feel in unbelievably claustrophobic conditions with strong currents ......they deserve the highest accolades indeed they should mint a new medal for courage in indescribable conditions.  In honesty, as a diver, tears come to my eyes when I think about what these Aussi Heros went through to achieve such a spectacular result, any honour would be inadequate!!!! 

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Hero's

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Sat, 2018-07-14 12:00

This is copied from Richard Harris’s Facebook.

I am sitting in the back of an RAAF C17 on the way back to Australia with Craig and the amazing Australian team members from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Australian Federal Police and Australian Defence Force. I feel like it is the first opportunity to really stop and reflect on the extraordinary events of the past 8 days since Craig and I were deployed as a small AUSMAT team to the rescue in Chang Rai in Northern Thailand. By the time we arrived on site, local divers like Ben Reymenants and the awesome foursome from Britain (John Volanthen, Rick Stanton, Jason Mallinson and Chris Jewell) had already been doing the most extraordinary dives through the cave and laying the very robust rope which made all subsequent dives to the soccer team not only possible, but safe. The efforts and skill of these guys in blazing this trail cannot be underestimated. Following someone else’s line is very much easier than finding your own way. Rick and John not only found the children and coach alive, but conveyed the gravity of the situation to the rest of the world and thus the rescue started in earnest. The 4 Brits then did further supply dives to the soccer players, the coach and the four Thai Navy Seals which allowed them to prepare and sustain themselves for the rescue ultimately. Meanwhile on the ground, the Thais and international community sent in swarms of men and women to provide everything from catering, communications, media and of course the huge teams of workers filling the cave with tonnes and tonnes of equipment to try and lower the water and sustain the diving operations. I have never seen anything like it with man battling to control the natural forces of the monsoon waters. Local climbing and rope access workers rigged the dry cave section for that part of the rescue and scoured the bush for more entrances to the cave. Drilling teams attempted to get through nearly a km of rock to the boy’s location. And all this time 4 brave Navy Seals sat with the Wild Boars knowing they were in as much danger as the kids. When it seemed all other options were exhausted, the decision to swim the players out was made and the rescue went ahead. As the kids came out, the 4 British rescue divers were supported by Craig and I, three other very talented young CDG divers from the UK (Connor, Josh and Jim) and the ͞Euro divers͟ (Erik, Ivan, our good mate Claus and Nikko). The pressure that was put on these guys was immense and they never dropped the ball for a second. When the kids and coach were delivered to chamber 3, the US pararescue teams, AFP SRG divers, Aussie CD, Chinese divers and Thai Navy and Military medics assessed the kids, then whisked them out of the cave to a field hospital before moving them to the massive hospital in Chang Rai centre. We were lucky to visit the boys, coach and Seals and all the beautiful medical and nursing staff in the hospital on our way home. I wanted to write this to try and give credit to all the people who were in some way involved. Craig and I have had a spotlight on our efforts and we want to make everyone realise that while we might have become the face of this rescue for some reason, everyone should know that the role we played was no more or less important than all the many hundreds (perhaps thousands) of people I have mentioned. The part we played has been made out to be a lot more noble than it actually was, we just consider ourselves lucky to have had some skills that we could contribute to the wonderful outcome. Special thanks to the NCCTRC and AUSMAT, DFAT, Australian Embassy Staff in Thailand, the Thai Tourist Police (our protectors!), local liaison, the local cavers. Our heartfelt condolences to the family of ex Navy Seal Saman Gunan who died during the rescue efforts. At home we must thank our families for dealing with the media and the worry we caused them (they are used to the latter I fear). To MedSTAR and the SA Ambulance Service for the significant assistance and support especially from Drs James Doube and Andrew Pearce. To the team at Specialist Anaesthetic Services for the same. To the Cave Divers Association of Australia for handling the flurry of interest in our sport…the management team there has been amazing especially our best mate John Dalla-Zuanna. To the worldwide community of cavers and divers who have handled themselves with grace and dignity and tried to throw some facts the media’s way occasionally! Finally to the thousands of well-wishers from Thailand and around the world; we promise we have read every message! Kittanu, Michael, Cameron, Andrew, Glenn, Jo and Grace… sorry to give you so much grief! Legends every one of you. To our new band of brothers; the Aussie, US , UK and Euro/Canadian divers - lifelong friendships and respect. Harry and Craig

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A very humble man

Sat, 2018-07-14 12:47

 right there. 

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 Just wow! 

Sat, 2018-07-14 13:20

 Just wow! 

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and his dad

Sun, 2018-07-15 09:20

 passed away in Adelaide while this was all going down.

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That needs a share. What a

Tue, 2018-07-17 07:35

That needs a share. What a genuinely great human.

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 there were certainly many

Sat, 2018-07-14 16:05

 there were certainly many people involved and every one of them has done their own part in the rescue. and i dare say every one of them did it for humanity and not for money or recollection . 

when things like this happens it brings out the humanity in so many people instead of agro and hate. 

again congrats to all involved

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Faith restored

Sat, 2018-07-14 21:12

When you look around at all the violence and such that is going on in our world at the moment and really really start to think what the hell, people like all those involved in the rescue of those kids give you that uplift and restore your faith (well mine anyway) in humanity.

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Looks like the British diver

Mon, 2018-07-16 19:21

Looks like the British diver is now set up for a very, very, very big payday over it

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 Smoke, fire??

Mon, 2018-07-16 19:23

 Smoke, fire??

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Yep

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Yep

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 Four Corners just screened a

Mon, 2018-07-16 22:08

 Four Corners just screened a great doco on the rescue

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Yeah will watch

Tue, 2018-07-17 06:09

 Later.

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Tue, 2018-07-17 08:35

 Yep, got it recorded also.

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Sweet got 4 Corners on auto

Tue, 2018-07-17 08:44

Sweet got 4 Corners on auto record. One of the last bastions of real reporting left on TV

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  Yep- Really good TV

Tue, 2018-07-17 09:25

  Yep- Really good TV watching last night.

So glad the Channel 9's and 7's of the world didn't do this interview!

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Tue, 2018-07-17 11:11

 Yep, just watched it, was done really well by Mark Willasee.

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 Yep great effort by all the

Tue, 2018-07-17 11:18

 Yep great effort by all the rescuers and a top report by 4 corners. This rich prick that has called the pommie diver a pedo needs a smack in the head , a slur on the country and any expat that lives there . Easy to be a knocker when you dont have the balls to get in and help. Fark me as if a submarine was going to fit in that cave what a joke. Took his tweets down cause he knows he farked up Loser.

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Tue, 2018-07-17 12:30

 Where is the pommy divers name in the facebook post dont see it, was he involved in the rescue any where or just making comments. Musk was in contact With Rick Stanton on the dive team and it was him that gave the dimensions to Musk. Still shouldnt have called him a pedo

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Tue, 2018-07-17 17:32

 I think he was referring to John Volanthen.

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