How not to handle a. following sea
Submitted by meglodon on Tue, 2020-04-14 19:15
Did anyone see the boat come unstuck on channel 7 news tonight, poor buggers I only saw the end of the report with the boat getting wiped out big time whilst coming in through the heads of some harbour in a following sea. One minute it was there the next instant it was totally gone.
Dale
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That was nuts, person had no idea.
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meglodon
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Certainly was
Some very lucky people there, if it wasn't for the surfers I think there would have been a few fatalities, and as for having no life jackets what do you say to fools like that
sea-kem
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I just want to know how he
I just want to know how he ended up on top of a surfbreak.
Love the West!
sunshine
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New owner, no life jackets and boat in neutral
And clearly no sea sense either. How lives weren't lost was nothing more than pure unadulterated luck
Lastchance
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Was that the one with the
Was that the one with the Haines with the twin Etecs? They didn't seem too concerned on board when they were about to get smashed that's for sure!
holth
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Yeah those Haines broach
Yeah those Haines broach pretty bad
quadfisher
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Playing sub's?
I thought it did pretty well for were it was put in a surf break , yes I have a small Haines and broaching in a following sea is not one of its vices . This skipper deff had all the gear , no friggin idea.
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Josh
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It was a pretty serious surf
It was a pretty serious surf break to be hanging around in!
And it looked like a pretty good sized haines!
SeperateKnob
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Looks like a patriot
Looks like a patriot
dodgy
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Thought he was fishing too
Thought he was fishing too close to the wash and got caught out?
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
rob90
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Scary stuff, but with people
Scary stuff, but with people on board and no jackets that skipper needs a slap in the head. I cant see how it could be engine failure with twin outboards, and if he simply was in neutral like the reporters say he should hang his head in shame and his skippers ticket fed to the goats. 10m towards the rocks and it would've been a grim scene. Very lucky for everyone on board.
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Jsmolly
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poor buggers?no fkn idea more
poor buggers?
no fkn idea more like it. not even life jackets on board.
doesnt deserve to own a boat.
Swompa
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Yep. Fewer things scarier
Yep. Fewer things scarier than in incompetent skipper.
They are the people that will cause boating to be shut down
Gunnawundai
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Can someone put up the link?
Can someone put up the link? Cant find it.
Thanks
tadpole
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www.facebook.com/7NEWSsydney/
www.facebook.com/7NEWSsydney/videos/3319969884682846/
beau
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Wasn't coming through the
Wasn't coming through the heads of a harbour at all, just in totally the wrong area for a boat! As mentioned above, the passengers had no idea of what was even going on, it almost looked like 2 were looking down at their phones as they were going over!
meglodon
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That’s fair comment
As I said with my original post I didn't see all the story and I thought they were coming into a harbour or similar. I have been told that the report also stated that both motors were stopped, is that correct.
West Coast
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Wow
Something doesn't look quite right in that video. As someone said previously those on the boat looked very casual. I take the engines had cut out or sometrhing. Certainly done em selves a mischief.
Jim
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I thought he was going to
I thought he was going to make the barrel! Might have turned all onboard off boating for life.
Bend over
Subaquatic
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Is that Dude really on his
Is that Dude really on his phone during the roll over???
sunshine
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If the report is to be believed
The motors were running but in neutral.........the skipper ( sorry that is an insult to all true skippers ) just did not have a clue, a quick gun of the engines at the right time would have seen the disaster avoided but why get into that position in the first place
sea-kem
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Certainly had the HP to
Certainly had the HP to punch out of there.
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still trying
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They didn't look like they
They didn't look like they were following social distancing
rather be fishing
Messiah
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The person standing near the
The person standing near the helm (I can't call him a skipper) was on his phone and relaxed, in that surf, that close to the rocks.
Anyone with half an idea would have been;
a. At the helm
b. Watching the swell
c. Ready with the motors in gear and;
d. Getting the f$*@ out of there!
WHO GAVE HIM HIS TICKET.
timboon
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Thanks for posting the
Thanks for posting the link.
If you ask me the Haines did very well considering it pretty much was a sitting duck with no one in control.
Could've easily gone tits up when it dropped down the face now first not under power.
timboon
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And like Andy said wtf were
And like Andy said wtf were they doing there!
Happy dayz
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At least he got to write
At least he got to write those bloody e techs off ,that was the only winner
Happy dayz
Kakkerlak
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This is how it should have been done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-0nARucg8
tot
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I was watching that live
And by gee wiz did I stand up and shout haha, much like the Mick/shark incident.
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Sea goat
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that is some scary
that is some scary shite..
all errors and stupidity aside, what would b the best approach if you end up on a wave like that?
ranmar850
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best approach is not to end up on a wave in the first place.
IF you can keep it going straight, keep it going straight. Difficult on most boats, impossible on some. Downfall of fine entries, they tend to dig in, you have no control over the resultant bow steering resulting in a broach and over you go. You need to be well in front of the wave, or, from another perspective, behind the one in front. Power helps, but not the answer to everything. Until you've surfed a fifty foot long crayboat fully loaded with gear down the face of a big breaking one, you haven't lived.
Sea goat
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damn...that makes me shudder
damn...that makes me shudder just thinking about it!
carnarvonite
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Revs
Don't you love it when the revs pick up as the wave starts to lift the arse end up. Done that coming through the Hole in the Wall at Lancelin and again coming in under the lighthouse at Cape Lleuwin on the way to Dead Finish in a five metre plus swell
meglodon
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That is absolutely insane
Now there is someone who knows exactly how his boat handles and no fear at all. A very skilled skipper.
As for your last statement ranmar850 Ill give that experience a pass it would take me a month of washing to get the brown stain out of my underdaks. Obviously you survived, if you were a cat I'd say you used up 8 of your 9 lives.
DanB81
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Pic
Just saw pic on facebook of the boat once recovered.
Looking rather 2nd hand now
meglodon
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Can you please post
Up the link to the Facebook page that has the photo of the boat in question after recovery
Thanks
ranmar850
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I saw the footage on You tube
Boneheaded boaters of the week by broncos guru had it . He just seemed absolutely oblivious to the approaching theat, didn't he. I spent many years surfing along with a load of pots on, some boats made it easy, some scared the crap out of you. I had a 38 Randall for a while, they were a POS in just about every respect. Try to get across the bay in front of Pt Gregory with a fresh southerly blowing , quartering on the aft beam,and only half the gear ( 45 pots) on, that bloody thing was terrifying. All the big slops had you wondering if this was the one, it would do this weird combination of what I now recognise as chine walk and attempting to broach, both at the same time. No way could you trust it on auto pilot. Then I went to a 40ft ali hull, by Macboats. Flat-bottomed, hard riding thing, but it was impeccable with 90 pots on the same place in the same seas, just put the pilot on and have a coffee. Last boat was a fifty foot Image, stick 105 pots on in any conditions, wouldn't put a foot wrong heading any direction relative to the sea.
Broaching is always your main worry, getting picked up and pushed from behind will see you backing off the throttle and working the wheel to keep 'er straight; in really bad conditions, you are running doglegs everywhere, trying to balance between keeping a heading to where you want to go and having the run straight ahead to avoid a possible broach. teaches you a lot about boat handling.