Introducing myself and looking for some advice
my name is Rene and i have moved over to Australia about a year and a half ago. Loving every minute of it.
I am originally from the Netherlands, where i have lived for 33 years.
when i was young, between the age of 12-16, i was fishing every day back in the Netherlands.
Mainly freshwater as it was only a 5 min walk away, but have fished off the piers aswell.
My dad was always with me on the piers and tought me everything i know.
I have recently picked up fishing again, as this is such a great country for it. The Netherlands isn't what it used to be in that regard.
I have been fishing at woodman's point off the pier, and have been out on my workmate's boat, wich was great and i just enjoy being outdoors, taking in the sun and just relaxing. And maybe even catch something.
At the moment i have a 9ft penn rod with reel with 20lb mono line, have a few sinkers and the lot and some spinners/poppers to try out aswell. Making my own rigs and all that, just like i used to do back in the Netherlands ;-)
As it is at the moment, i don't have a boat and the likes to go fishing in deep waters out to sea to catch fish, so i will have to do it landbased for now.
Now i was looking into buying a shimano aerowave 13ft with a shimano biomaster SW AHG 10000 to increase my casting distance and maybe get more chance to catch a variety of fish. And probably will get braid on that spool to aid casting distance.
I usually and what i used to do is baitfishing.
( i am a bit of a shimano nut, always have been when i was younger too ;-))
What do you lads/lasses think about that setup?
My fishing will be landbased and probably mostly in the cockburn sound (off the piers) and or the dawesville cut (off the piers and beaches in between)
I am Mandurah based so those spots are most likely to be fished most, unless people can give me some other good options.
I don't mind getting up early or stay up late to get in the prime time for certain species, but i also like to be out during the day.
Any hints, tips and advice greatly appriciated.
Rene
Rene80
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Ugh, i had it in a readable
Ugh, i had it in a readable format but somehow it all went nuts, will sort it out
meglodon
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Welcome
Welcome to the site Rene, I'm sure you will get a lot of help from the people who use this forum/site as they are a good bunch of people.
Hope you get stuck into some good fishing reel soon.
Rene80
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Thanks! Hope to have a good
Thanks!
Hope to have a good time and learn a few tricks or two ;-)
Hutch
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Welcome mate.With regards to
Welcome mate.
With regards to the combo, there isn't really a need to spend the extra cash for the biomaster, plenty of much cheaper options that would do the exact same job. As for rod, the Aerowaves are decent, another option to look at is the Penn Prevail surf series. For reels have a look at the Shimano Saragosa SW range, heard plenty of good things about them.
Hutch
Rene80
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Thanks Hutch!, will have a
Thanks Hutch!, will have a look around.
I did notice though that the Penn prevail series is actually dearer than the shimano aerowave ;-)
nightfish
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Hi Rene
welcome bud.
Some good areas to try around you would be singleton and golden bay beaches over summer. I live north of river but those beaches seem to fire up at times.
as hutch said penn prevail rods, all you would need for most metro situations would be the 13ft version matched with a 1200 sized baitrunner. Horses for courses though if you want something to use off boat as well the Saragossa might be a better fit. Read up on Alan Hawkes review for reels he knows his stuff.
good luck with it all, WA has some great lambasted fishing when you get it sussed.
Rene80
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Thanks nightfish! I like to
Thanks nightfish!
I like to fish all year round though but i will definatly give it all a go in the comming months.
I actually have a seperate rod and reel for on the boat, as i bought a combo when i went out with my work mate last week. So no need to keep that into consideration.
I know different fishing styles need different fishing rods, but the majority of my fishing will be land based, as i do not own a boat myself, hopefully someday in the future ;-)
Will definatly check out Alan Hawkes, thanks for the tip!
And good luck to you too!
lachieH
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G'day Rene,as you mentioned
G'day Rene,
as you mentioned fishing at the Dawesville cut is one of my favorite fishing spots! I recommend go to the rock groyne next to the channel there. You can go to the end of the rocks or fish the side facing south towards the end, that is where all the herring are. I find casting into the channel isn't that productive. As for the salmon I think either the end (west side) around to the halfway point of the south side is really good, if you are live baiting or sighting the schools. Lots and lots of herring there, so if you end up getting the 13 ft rod it would be perfect for casting some rigs out and pulling the herring in like there is no tomorrow. And when the salmon are running from about May to about July you will be able to chuck a livebait out for one or just get some lures out, because salmon are one of my favorite fish to catch because of their sheer power and not bad on the plate if eaten fresh.
As for the rod and reel, maybe go for a little shimano Sedona in the 4000 size and a penn prevail would work well. The reason that I suggest the Sedona is because if you get sand and if you drop it on the rocks and all that it won't matter as much compared to a biomaster. That would be a real disaster.
inhope that helps
thanks,
Lachie
Fishing the swan for bream, it's just an obsession
Rene80
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Thank Lachie!, Great to hear
Thank Lachie!,
Great to hear its a good spot, and i am sure it will get used a lot by people.
Was actually thinking of going there on the weekend, wich will likely be sunday as the rest of the weekend doesn't look like it's going to be much.
I was indeed thinking of going all the way to the end of the rocks, as this is what i used to do in the Netherlands as well and it has paid off then, although you still got to be lucky ;-)
I definatly like to catch fish that actually give you a run for your money, as that is the most fun! ;-)
Haven't eaten herring here yet nor the salmon so definatly keen in trying it all out after i reeled em in ;-)
I will have a look into the sedona thanks for the tip!
You used a 13ft rod yourself too?
was thinking of going for some 10lb braided line on there or maybe a bit lighter.
Unsure of what kind of kg rating i should get the rod for though, as i don't mind fighting for it, but something snapping because you have a big one hooked one would be slightly dissapointing too ;-)
Any recommendations for that?
crasny1
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Welcome ReneAlso Mandurah
Welcome Rene
Also Mandurah based so might be able to help. The Cut is certainly interesting. As mentioned by Lachie for some reason the south facing side "appears" to hold more herring than the North. I personally think it is because there are more Disability Platforms near the Marina area facing south and thus more people fish this area consistently. And with herring berley is a key to attact them. More fishermen = more berley = more hezza's. I have caught heaps off herring on the south side aswell but closer to the open Ocean near the surf club is better.
Both ocean walls can be good for salmon in season.
Another target in the Cutt when the weather warms a little is Tailor. Again for one reason or another they tend to stick to the south wall directly opposite the Marina Herring area. Time is critical here though, as they tend to only come in with changing light conditions. Dawn or dusk with dusk better. Just lob a ganged mulie out and slowly retrieve, or use lures. Smiling jacks are cheap and deadly. The Mrs use bait, I use lures and other artificials. If you are new to tailor, watch their mouth - very sharp teeth.
I have an idea you get Tailor in the Netherlands (yip found it, and in your lingo, which as a Afrikaans X-speaker I can almost understand). De blauwbaars (Pomatomus saltatrix) is een straalvinnige vissensoort uit de familie van blauwe baarzen (Pomatomidae).[1] De wetenschappelijke naam van de soort is voor het eerst geldig gepubliceerd in 1766 door Linnaeus .
They have various names worldwide, like shad and elf in south Africa, Bluefish in the USA etc
Good fun from about November onwards especially. As night approaches just follow the crowd on the south wall estuary side.
Any off the beaches mentioned are worth a go, but I love Tim's Thicket and White Hills down, but you need a 4 wheel drive and let tyres down. Same species as above with whiting in close, and especially at night with big baits sharks, and with luck (beginners always seem to score) Mulloway.
On the flats in the Estuary during summer popping for Yellow fin whiting has become a little craze, and is great fun site casting to schools of these fantastic eating fish.
Heaps of other options so just ask on here.
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Rene80
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thanks Crasyny1 thanks for
thanks Crasyny1
thanks for the tips, really appriciate it, as i still have to get my way around here and 'finding' the better spots ;-)
Heard and read a lot about Tailor and they seem to be a nice fish to catch, although i think a bit of lighter gear and maybe a smaller rod would be better in this case? or would a 13ft rod still be fine?
Don't mind fishing either way, with baait or lures. i think its nice to change tactics from time to time and keeps things interesting ;-)
Have cought a few of those in the Netherlands, nice fish to catch and they do give you a run for your money!
I have heard a few things about Tim's Thicket, and that you indeed need a 4WD to get there, hopefully that will be sorted out somewhere early next year. I don't feel like digging out my commodore lol.
Catching yellow fin whiting should be heaps of fun on light gear i suppose, ans you don't want to be too overpowered and just reel em in?
Hutch
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13ft rod would be pretty
13ft rod would be pretty good for the beach, off the rocks you could probably get away with a rod over about 9ft.
You should also take into consideration whether you will be holding the rod or chucking it in a holder most of the time, if holding mainly, you could possibly go for a slightly shorter rod. I personally prefer slightly longer rods, anything from about 12 - 15 feet in length.
As for weight rating, cast weight is generally more important that line weight, especially when you are using 30lb+ line. From what it sounds like for tailor the ideal setup would probably be a 4000 - 6000 sized reel with a rod rated to about 4-8kg and 10-20lb braid.
Rene80
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thanks for the reply Hutch!I
thanks for the reply Hutch!
I have a 9ft rod atm, but when i am casting off the rocks/beach i just don't feel like i get enough casting distance.
I have a rod holder for the beach so if i am fishing on the actual beach i will chuck it in there, just to make my life a little bit easier ;-), but have no issues holding rods either. If for example i am fishing off the rocks.
Looking at the saragosa SW 5000 looks like a decent reel for a nice price. combined with some 10-20lb powerpro braid and a 30lb leader.
More hints, tips, tricks and locations always appriciated ;-)
Hutch
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On the rocks you generally
On the rocks you generally don't need to cast too far. Most fish will hang near the structure. Like I mentioned before, the extra length will make lifea lot easier on the beach where casting distance is a major factor and keeping the line as high as possible above the waves
Rene80
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exactly ;-) and i can keep
exactly ;-) and i can keep my 9ft rod for fisihing off rocks, or even when i have relatives over ;-)
have been asking a few people a question and i haven't really found the awnser yet.
Back in the Netherlands, from the beach you would want to cast as far as you can so you can get into deeper water obviously and have more chance on a bigger range of species of fish to catch.
I am assuming this is the same over here in WA? I know that whiting and such can be just a few feet away from you, but i don't just want to target that. I'd like to enable my chances on something larger and different as well ;-)
cheers for awnsering the newbie questions, but it has been a while since ive fished and obviously on the other side of the world wich is probably different ;-)
Hutch
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How far you should cast
How far you should cast depends on the beach and its features.
A flat beach with no surf or waves usually requires a long cast to get out to the deeper water. On a lot of surf beaches there will be a gutter, usually not too far out, backed by a sand bank. This gutter usually has relatively deep water and is where the smaller fish such as whiting and herring will hide. In low light periods like dawn, dusk and during the night bigger fish will often enter the gutter to feed on the smaller fish so ideally this is where you should fish.
When a gutter is present there is usually also a 'channel' where the water exits (known as a rip) and you can see it by looking for stirred up sand stretching out beyond the wave break. Also a good spot to fish as this is where larger fish will enter and exit the gutter.
On other surf beaches there may just be a sand bank stretching out with shallow water on top of it. In this case the ideal spot is just off the back of the bank where it drops off, able to be distinguished by where most of the waves are breaking.
Hope this helps
Hutch
Rene80
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Cheers matey! Hope the
Cheers matey! Hope the weekend will be better than it is forecasted
Plug
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Hi Reneif you want a good rod
Hi Rene
if you want a good rod and is in teh 9ft range and casts like a dream look at the timber wolf wave rock around $150, its my only good beach rod and works like a dream.
Send me a pm if you are interested in catching salmon next season off the back of penguin island. don't worry at all abotu fishing gear if you are interested becuase you can use any type of rod and reel and is heaps of fun.
Jarz
i need cheaper hobbies
Rene80
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Cheers Jarz, sounds like an
Cheers Jarz, sounds like an awesome plan! ;-)
sea-kem
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Welcome to the site Rene,
Welcome to the site Rene, plenty of good info on here and some great buys in the for sale section. If you are keen for boating keep checking in as lots of guys need deckies from time to time. Hope to see a post or two with your success.
Love the West!
Rene80
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Thanks mate! Will definatly
Thanks mate! Will definatly do. Going to give the dawesville cut a go this weekend ;-)
axey45
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Welcome to Fishwrecked m8
Welcome to Fishwrecked m8
Rene80
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Cheers mate!
Cheers mate!
devhay
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Welcome mate, looking forward
Welcome mate, looking forward to seeing some pictures of big catches haha
Rene80
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Cheers! And likewise lol!
Cheers! And likewise lol!
Rene80
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Just had a look at the
Just had a look at the dawesville cut. Bit choppy out there at the moment LOL. So you guys definatly prefer to fish on the ocean side? As i have had a look on both sides.
i still got some mullies and large squid in the freezer i am intending to use.
might buy some light gear too, for catching baitfish and the likes, saves me buying bait
Hutch
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Great idea, livebait
Great idea, livebait outperforms any other bait 99/100 times IMO, definitely the go with herring, yellowtail, snook/pike, etc
Rene80
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Not only that but any
Not only that but any leftover bait i can just freeze and use it some other time for bait/berley