Jigging Question
Submitted by Matty05 on Wed, 2010-09-22 18:40
Had an awesome day out today jigging for sambos. Arms and shoulders well and truly stretched. I did notice there was a bit of line twist while using a Zest Hardy Long jig that fluttered a bit on the drop.
Question is does anybody use a snap swivel to take out the line twist?
Cheers
Matt
till
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I would hope no one uses a
I would hope no one uses a snap swivel jigging, but a swivel sure. Try this image for two ways to rig jigs.
SamC
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Sure would hope no-one uses
Sure would hope no-one uses snaps while jigging huh Jamie?
http://fishwrecked.com/image/why-black-magic-15kg-clips-are-rubbish
Cheers,
Sam
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I learned my lesson and was
I learned my lesson and was fortunate enough not to lose the fish. I now preach the good word ;)
PS: I also threw out all those clips too.
PPS: Someone else told me that you probably only need those special swivels with the extra fixed ring on them if you can't just remember to throw the junky split rings out of your tackle box, but then that was a lesson I'm yet to learn =)
hlokk
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So how are you going to
So how are you going to attach the jigs? Or did you mean just use junky splits to the jig? (which wont be inline when you hookup)?
Good split rings are fine though.
till
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No, junky split rings as
No, junky split rings as opposed to good ones, and who really cares about the jig?
The point being, is that if you use the swivels with the extra welded solid ring in them, you're only dependant on the split ring to hold onto your jig, not your fish.
The person in question straightened a split ring on PE4, losing the split ring, jig, assist hook, solid ring and of course the fish!.
SamC
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All good mate, everyone
All good mate, everyone starts somewhere!
Cheers,
Sam
Johnyy_Boii
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im going jurien tomorow, and
im going jurien tomorow, and i finished setting up all my gear..now that im reading this, why is it bad to use snap swivels? arent they as strong? is it worth going back and adding a normal swivel instead?
cheers in advance.
Feral
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all swivels are pretty poor
all swivels are pretty poor when using heavy gear (50lb+) good split rings are much stronger ..
some good clips are the ricther ones .. but they are a bit too bulky i find for normal fishing .. i only use then when trolling
Johnyy_Boii
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the heaviest im using for
the heaviest im using for jigging is 40lb..and maybe a 50lb setup but doubt it..also using 20lb and 30lb...reckon its worth changing the setups to a normal swivel or should i just use the snap?
till
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The mechanical action of
The mechanical action of jigging is really hard on snaps, irrespective of their rating.
I like the richter snaps, but I'd still avoid them for jigging, just use a split ring.
Johnyy_Boii
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ok, so i tie my leader
ok, so i tie my leader directly to the split ring?
till
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No, look at the supplied
No, leader to a split ring is bad news, if the line moves around to where the opening is, it can chafe and lead to failure.
Check at the supplied image, leader directly to swivel.
Johnyy_Boii
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ah ok, sweet. thanks a heap
ah ok, sweet.
thanks a heap mate.
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connection and twist;
To minimize line twist use a good swivel ie ballbearing swivel. Attach bb swivel to split ring/to assist hook/to jig is the go.
If you were to use a clip then as mentioned the Richter hi-tensile clips are very strong, reliable and not bulky.
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Matty05
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OK umm sounds like its
OK umm sounds like its alright to use a swivel and that its bad to use a swivel.......
Is the line twist caused from the jig a major or minor problem over the days jigging?
I thought a good quality snap might be the go due to the solid ring the leader is attached to.
By the way I still had my 100lb leader on from a recent Coral Bay trip. The day went well until I got smoked tangled in nearby structure and couldnt bust off the line
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Just a guess?
Just a guess, but perhaps Feral meant to say snap, not swivel?
Matty05
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Till I didnt see the pic
Till
I didnt see the pic earlier. That makes more sense now. I think I will rig my jigs like that from now on