Jigging Question

Had an awesome day out today jigging for sambos. Arms and shoulders well and truly stretched. I did notice there was a bit of line twist while using a Zest Hardy Long jig that fluttered a bit on the drop.

 

Question is does anybody use a snap swivel to take out the line twist?

 

Cheers

 

Matt


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I would hope no one uses a

Thu, 2010-09-23 08:51

I would hope no one uses a snap swivel jigging, but a swivel sure. Try this image for two ways to rig jigs.

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Sure would hope no-one uses

Wed, 2010-09-22 18:59

Sure would hope no-one uses snaps while jigging huh Jamie? Tongue out

 

http://fishwrecked.com/image/why-black-magic-15kg-clips-are-rubbish

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Sam

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I learned my lesson and was

Wed, 2010-09-22 19:17

I learned my lesson and was fortunate enough not to lose the fish. I now preach the good word ;)

 

PS: I also threw out all those clips too.

PPS: Someone else told me that you probably only need those special swivels with the extra fixed ring on them if you can't just remember to throw the junky split rings out of your tackle box, but then that was a lesson I'm yet to learn =)

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So how are you going to

Wed, 2010-09-22 22:34

So how are you going to attach the jigs? Or did you mean just use junky splits to the jig? (which wont be inline when you hookup)?


Good split rings are fine though.

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No, junky split rings as

Thu, 2010-09-23 08:48

No, junky split rings as opposed to good ones, and who really cares about the jig?

 

The point being, is that if you use the swivels with the extra welded solid ring in them, you're only dependant on the split ring to hold onto your jig, not your fish.

 

The person in question straightened a split ring on PE4, losing the split ring, jig, assist hook, solid ring and of course the fish!.

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All good mate, everyone

Wed, 2010-09-22 20:13

All good mate, everyone starts somewhere!

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Sam

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im going jurien tomorow, and

Wed, 2010-09-22 20:29

im going jurien tomorow, and i finished setting up all my gear..now that im reading this, why is it bad to use snap swivels? arent they as strong? is it worth going back and adding a normal swivel instead?

cheers in advance.

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all swivels are pretty poor

Wed, 2010-09-22 20:50

all swivels are pretty poor when using heavy gear (50lb+) good split rings are much stronger ..

some good clips are the ricther ones .. but they are a bit too bulky i find for normal fishing .. i only use then when trolling

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the heaviest im using for

Wed, 2010-09-22 20:52

the heaviest im using for jigging is 40lb..and maybe a 50lb setup but doubt it..also using 20lb and 30lb...reckon its worth changing the setups to a normal swivel or should i just use the snap?

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The mechanical action of

Wed, 2010-09-22 21:00

The mechanical action of jigging is really hard on snaps, irrespective of their rating.

I like the richter snaps, but I'd still avoid them for jigging, just use a split ring.

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ok, so i tie my leader

Wed, 2010-09-22 20:58

ok, so i tie my leader directly to the split ring?

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No, look at the supplied

Wed, 2010-09-22 21:02

No, leader to a split ring is bad news, if the line moves around to where the opening is, it can chafe and lead to failure.

Check at the supplied image, leader directly to swivel.

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ah ok, sweet. thanks a heap

Wed, 2010-09-22 21:03

ah ok, sweet.

thanks a heap mate.

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connection and twist;

Wed, 2010-09-22 21:05

To minimize line twist use a  good swivel ie ballbearing swivel. Attach bb swivel to split ring/to assist hook/to jig is the go.

If you were to use a clip then as mentioned the Richter hi-tensile clips are very strong, reliable and not bulky.

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OK umm sounds like its

Thu, 2010-09-23 08:39

OK umm sounds like its alright to use a swivel and that its bad to use a swivel.......

Is the line twist caused from the jig a major or minor problem over the days jigging?

I thought a good quality snap might be the go due to the solid ring the leader is attached to.

 

By the way I still had my 100lb leader on from a recent Coral Bay trip. The day went well until I got smokedLaughing tangled in nearby structure and couldnt bust off the lineFrown

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Just a guess?

Thu, 2010-09-23 08:49

Just a guess, but perhaps Feral meant to say snap, not swivel?

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Till   I didnt see the pic

Thu, 2010-09-23 09:09

Till

 

I didnt see the pic earlier. That makes more sense now. I think I will rig my jigs like that from now on