Ningaloo/Warroora Camping & Tinny fishing
Hi All,
Mrs is keen to have a get away and Ningaloo popped up in conversation. We tried warroora in Oct' 2016 but was windy all week and retreated to CB.
We are trying to work out what dates suit us but will likely be around late july to early/mid august. We are looking at either Warroora (sandy point or 14mile) or Ningaloo (windabandi & North/South Lefroy). Weather will be what it will be, but hoping we are going to have better luck that our last attempt. Have searched the forum and found plenty of info on the track in; Tinny (375 with 25hp yam) is rooftopper on the camper so will be fine for the journey in.
Main thing I'm looking into is, what fish will be around in the middle of winter? I am keen to troll for mackies, wahoo & even a sail, but being solo it will be a mission... any tips for a tinny soloist? If i can get outside the reef i was going to troll & keep an eye on ground to drop for dermsals at a later date once i have a few marks to check out.
North/South Lefroy: Is it worth heading north or south from main passage (opposite North Lefroy & keeping within the boundarys), or if heading out deeper for bottom fish, what depths should I be aiming for if the weather allows?
Sandy Point/14Mile: Troll to the north behind the reef & what depth to aim for to find some demersals?
Small boat but very confident in the setup & regularly take it to 35-40m off Perth & south coast.
& any general tips for setting up camp for 7-10 days? Water will be our biggest issue...
Cheers!
NORUN NOFUN
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If your heading to Wara a 375
If your heading to Warra a 375 is pretty small to be heading out solo but at least you have a 25 which should get it going nicely, I would only head out past the reef on the days of light winds and low swell and carry all the necessary safety gear, including a GPS, lots of sharks these days as well.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you do travel out past the reef take a few minutes while you are out there to think what you would do if your boat did overturn - how far to swim ? Can I get to lifejackets / epirb / flares ?? Most people tend to tuck all of that away in a small boat due to lack of space.
Your best bet may well be inside the reef, you will be surprised at the quality of good fish that travel inside the reef at night and that is if your confident and setup to fish at night.
If you do get outside the reef, trolling might suit you better and if you come across good ground, stop and have a bottom fish, I would have 3 setups ready to go, one for trolling, bottom bash and a spin rod setup with a stick bait etc for a close bust up of fish.
carnarvonite
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Radio
Check what VHF channel the Exmouth repeater works on and also get in contact with the station about whether they still run a repeater for UHF, from distant memory it was on channel 1. It would be a great help if you get in trouble while outside the reef
SeperateKnob
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You regularly travel 10 mile
You regularly travel 10 mile offshore solo in a 3.75 tinnie?
Deano.9
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5FB
maybe not "regularly" but when the weather allows i head out to around 35m behind 5FB, leave from woodie ramp and is about 22km steam out there. Try get out that far 2-3 times a year & have taken it to rotto too. Have also fished off gracetown, denmark & bremer on the odd trip south.
Big emphasis on the good weather part but it does turn pretty quick sometimes, slow and steady if things take a turn.
SeperateKnob
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Yeah for sure definitely get
Yeah for sure definitely get a few good days a year when the forecast is less than 10kn for almost the entire day. Just don't forget to wear the engine kill lanyard and life jacket especially solo anything could happen
Reefsta
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Swell likely
My experience with Ningaloo through winter is medium to large swell hitting the reef edge. If I was doing a trip like your planning, I would focus on making the most of the lagoon as the core, but have a bit of gear to cover fishing outside should you get lucky with conditions. With a bit of preplanning and site seleciton you can fish the lagoon day or night, which can work well for spanglies in places. In very calm weather I've found coronation trout along the reef front seemed to favour about 15m, which can be trolled with deep divers, so even if that is a bit close you've got the motor running and can quickly head deeper if a big swell comes unexpectedly. For mackies tended to focus a little deeper, 20-30m. In addition to trolling, drifting in 20-30m with one bottom rig and one floater is a good combo.
Deano.9
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Safety on the mind
Always have flares & epirb along with other emergency supplies in a grab & go bag at arms reach. Set this up after seeing another guy at the ramp with one and has a float tied to it so if it doesnt get taken on the way over its got a chance to float. Have a fixed radio on the boat but i think a portable one might be a better option and keep in at arms reach. I run a compact lifejacket if weather isnt great/turns or im in a place im unfamiliar with.
Always keen to have a red hot crack and probably push further than most in a boat that size, but like to think im prepared should something go wrong.
Thats for the responses. More than happy to stay inside and catch squid, spangos & trevally if thats all the weather will allow. Just want to be prepared & have the best chance possible should i get a gap in the weather; because if its good, ill be going!
Cheers
Silver Fox
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You need a bigger boat
You need a bigger boat
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Deano.9
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Perfect size
I think everyone would like a bigger boat. But for what we do, its about perfect and as big as i can fit on the camper. Still managable to setup myself too, any bigger and I would have to rely on a 2nd person too much.
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sea-kem
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Sounds like you've taken all
Sounds like you've taken all the necessary precorshuns
Love the West!
carnarvonite
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Now
Now now Andy, you don't want to start a war again. lol
sea-kem
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ha ha I'm a peace lovin man
ha ha I'm a peace lovin man ;) John
Love the West!
woody
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G'day Deano, I've fished
G'day Deano,
I've fished Warroora plenty of times in my 375 Dart and 15 Merc, camping at 14 mile and Sandy Point. First advice is book now! Its so busy up there that you'll be scratching to get a site where you want it anyway. We're heading to 14 mile in July school holidays and I had to book that 180 days from the dates at midnight.
Back to fishing - most old farts up there run 375 of varying brands so you'll be fine. Like you say pick the weather, have your safety gear on hand and head outside the reef through the main big passage when its nice and its easy. Caught plenty of macks in July trolling ver behind the reef. Quite often its actually calmer outside with big rolling swells that cause the lagoon to be choppy. Never really bottom fished much outside, just trolled. But dad has some beaut spots, some as far as 5 mile out which they would hit on nice days with a few tinnies.
According to my old man who's a 20 year Warroora vet, spanglies and fishing in general is better in April/ May but I've still caught plenty in July.
Track in is super easy, big arse vans use it. Fill up your water tanks in Carnavon and refill in CB at the caravan park, cant remember the cost.
Good luck and have fun
Woody
Deano.9
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Tinnies everywhere
Good to know youve had success in a similar boat. Obviously as everyone has expressed it pays to be cautious, but there are always tinnys at these places and most of them seem to belong to the older generations... Cant see it being too hairy when the conditions are good.
Fingers crossed theres a few other boats there, im always up for a beer/chat and see if anyone is keen to venture out. Strength in numbers is always a winner, but some places there just aren't enough people keen enough to venture out.
Any tips for trolling lures? Just have a couple Laser pro's in the bag, but dont get much use.
How far/long is the drive to CB for supplies? We'll have 100-120L in water jerries to take in and top up mid trip.
Cheers!
woody
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Yep Laser pros and I also
Yep Laser pros and I also use Rapala XRaps 30 and 40s for when the sun is higher and the mackies go deep.
Run a short section of single strand wire too. CB is 40kms away so easy to restock food, beer and water.
Did you get a site yet?
Deano.9
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North Lefroy
Yeah we got into North Lefroy Site 9
Bit hard not knowing which sites are good or not. Been looking on google earth and trying to work out site locations, but got a bit nervous of missing out so just booked one that worked best for our dates.
So keen, just hope the weather plays nice, not only for a bit of fishing but also for the mrs & doggo.
Staying in Kalbarri on the way up for a few nights and then in Exmouth for a few days after before heading home. Heard theres a few new pubs/breweries in town since we were there last!
duncan61
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warroora
I would go to winderabandi point.I did a bit of plumbing and lived at Warroora and it does not take many people to make it crowded.A lot of bodies at 14 mile will be surfing.winderabandi you can camp right on the point but it is a bit exposed.It is a very short distance to the outer reef no matter where you camp.Statewide fishing rules apply.At Waroora the station owners encourage fishers to only take 2 fish a day.I have caught big Mackerel and spangled emperor at both places
just do it.
Jackalchub
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Hey mate, Cant comment of
Hey mate,
Cant comment of waroora, but have done the western side of exmouth in a dinghy similar to yours (4m though). We spent most of our time trolling 10-45m picking up plenty of macks and a few wahoo. Whenever we got below 16m we caught trout.
One day we snuck out about 7km to 120m and did well on bottom fish.
As said, plenty of fish to be caught on the inside, pick your days to go out and keep your head on a swivel.
Best of luck
Deano.9
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Which trolling lures?
Perfect mate thanks for that!
Did you run bait or jigs for bottom fish, if so what worked the best for you? i feel it would get pretty expensive with the sharks around if i try the jigs.
I haven't done a whole lot of trolling, just got a couple laser pro's 160 & 190s, worth trying anything else?
Always pretty aware of whats going on in the tinny when out wide, definitly not something i half ass when on a mission
Cheers!
Reefsta
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deep diver handy
If you have calm weather and can safely troll along the reef front in around 15m, then a deep diving minnow that can get to 7-10m is useful for things like coronation trout. So an extra deep Laser pro or a deep Rapala type of lure. The shallower laser pros would be fine for mackies and I used to zig zag along the 20-30m depth contours for them. Late July you also still need to be aware of migrating humpbacks heading north.
davewillo
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I've always found Laser
I've always found Laser Pro's really good at Exmouth/Mackerel Islands etc. You'll need more than a couple though given the shark problems these days. Everyone has their colour preferences but for me the mulie and Elton John patterns work well.
PGFC member and lure tragic
duncan61
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I have not got it correct.14
I have not got it correct.14 mile is the spot on the road to coral bay where all the caravan people go.very easy access and good offshore reefs.I worked at manilya roadhouse and it was not far.both places can be netted from shore and threadfin are common.At Winderbandi beach I have caught school mackeral and queenfish as well as big mullet and thread fin in the net so casting metal slices would be worth while if the wind is howling from the south.
just do it.
Piggy
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Better be back late August
Whatever you do, you better be back later in August for the Mackies trip hahaha
I go boating not fishing
Deano.9
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$$$
Too much money tied up in that trip to miss out!