woooohooo here we go  this will be my no footy fix

Haha,

Barcrusher says it all, all the gear and no idea, bet he had a rocket launcher full of every size Stella and an empty icebox to match.

That loser has a rep for that kind of shit, should stick to taking it up to Jurien once a year with the other tryhards and blaming the wind/tide/swell/moon for not coming home with a single thing except the rays he caught on the sand cause he cant read a sounder.

 He is on this forum. Anyone got popcorn?

Got excited 

 Back in black.

Hes on this forum 

Didnt think hed do that

Dissapointing if true

 It would appear he is a member.I dont post alot but have been a long time member

Im not looking to create a shit fight but I look forward to hearing his reply?Maybe we do have the same numbers but i wouldnt have dropped in on another boat and kept going.

If thats how he operates then so be it.

 Double post

 this back in black by no means needs to ping spots, im guessing he has more spots out there than he could fish in a lifetime. 

but yeah pingers piss most off, we had one come into the same ground as us today but at least he kept his distance as to not annoy us

 If you have the same mark as someone else you know within a mile if they are sitting on it and just turn and head to your next mark. You dont drive up along side and then decide they are on it and move away. Guy is a pinger.

 could have easily had the mark already and wanted to see if it had fish on it so he could come back to it once you were gone?

the ocean isnt that big! 

 That’s how he gets his spots. :) :)

 mate , I’ve got over 100 spots out of Mindarie and you were about 150 metres from one of them , that’s as close as I got to you I did one quick look at it and kept going , the same as I did about 15 times before I got near you. I don’t need or want your spots. 

 I’ve helped out a few members here with spots that were struggling and I share a few with a couple of well known members just to make things clear mate. After 14 boats I have ample spots out of every ramp from Freo to Jurien. 

 Half a mile......haha, that is rediculous. 

Back in black has shit

piles of good spots, no way was he pinging you, same spot maybe. 

 “ that loser has a rep for this shit”? Where the fuck you getting that from???? 

 thanks John , good seeing you today - should have thrown sinkers at you when you came for a chat in the “ mega console “ ! 

 thanks John , good seeing you today - should have thrown sinkers at you when you came for a chat in the “ mega console “ ! 

 Mate i know you are a bullshiter straight up because if you have had 14 boats there is no way you would have bought a barcrusher, Do you wear a wetsuit and dive mask when you are submarining around on the ocean on that pig?

 Love my crusher , had an 8.2 Jackman hardtop before this one.

 no bad intentions mate , apologies you thought I was pinging you - hard work today did 30 spots for the bag limit. 

 good job Ryan!! My opinion I think your 

the better man with those responses . 

Say g'day too Joff for me next time you

see him .. cheers pirate 

 thanks Pirate, will do mate - I’d want to have my own spots after 273 hours in the Barcrusher since September! Lol. Cheers

So what is the etiquitte?

Here are 2 situations from today

1) Travelled out 40km to a spot that I picked out on Thursday night from the maps that I have access to. When I arrived 5 boats (including 2 tinnies btw WTF) were within 300m of each other. I am only reasonably new to heading out this far and do not have many spots. Do I just turn around and go home?

2) On the way back in, headed to a spot my deckie used to fish with his old man. We get there and someone is anchored about 100m from his mark. We set drift so as not to interfere. Half way through our 1st drift another boat pulls up almost right next to the anchored boat and jumps on our same drift.

So in your eyes, what is an acceptable distance between you and a boat that is alrerady near your spot?

I normally take a wide berth however if someone pulls up near me, as a long as they are not going near my line or force me to change my drift fair play.

Plenty of fish ,thousands of spots.happens all the time . Unless you know them of coarse.

Yes. As a novice I would like to understand an etiquette better too. Usually I don't mind when someone is dropping on my "secret" spot where I am trying to catch that elusive wrasse for a second year. But those guys usually have their eyes so glued to fish finder while they circling around me, pretending I am not there, so I worry that they are going to go over my drogue or fishing line or something :-(

Popcorn thread. This one petered out. Spot on LJ 

I find that a hard question to answer, I think most of us have what we consider to be a good idea of what is "the right thing to do" if some one comes up onto the same bit of reef you are fishing. just as the person who comes up to that spot has the idea of what is acceptable in such situations.
I hope that makes sense.

All of us have spots that we catch good fish on and like to keep their location as close a secret as possible, the truth that we must all acknowledge is that it is most probable indeed highly likely that there are quite a few people with the same locations marked on their GPS.

If a boat comes along and comes within 50 metres of you to check out how you are going I have no trouble with that as I some times do the same to see how that particular spot is fishing. Also on occasions I have given the boat on a particular mark a call on the radio and asked them are they "doing ok" you don't ask for a blow by blow of what they have caught but are just being friendly IMO and yes I have had some very threaten remarks said to me in reply which I think are quite undeserved.

Unfortunately society is what it is and we just have to get on with it and move on with life.

I thought this thread was going to be about something else to be honest! Haha

 Bit of a let down aye

I find my patience gets tested if another boat comes and parks downwind on my drift.
That is, they are obviously going to cover your intended drift and ground just minutes before you do.
I reckon that really shows a lack of consideration. And it's the only time I have had stern words with another boat.

Your all pingers haha

 3 of my best spots had pro pots on them yesterday which sucked ! 

Im not saying anyones an outright pinger but if you are you can get fucked. Im not into it. So many excuses to cover up the total wankerness.  Im venting because i had some tosser do the dodgy on saturday.

 Speaking of black barcrushers, had a big one pull right up to me a few times atleast 60km from any ramp off mandurah, saw him coming and made sure i sat on the sand.. he still ran a loop around me. wasn’t the boat in question 

 Popular ramps have been used for many years by boaties with high end sounders, alot of guys have put in alot of hours just searching for ground, so i think that for someone to jump on a forum and blatantly call someone out as a pinger in the metro area is pretty harsh, that same mark will be in 100s if not thousands of sounders and was probably fished by a few boats after you left it. The best thing to do out on the water in my opinion is give a wave or thumbs up and if they are that close even have a chat. 

 .

 Learnt a long time ago there’s no such thing as a secret spot.

 I always think that when some one quite seriouly says , we travellled 40kms out to find someone right on OUR spot!

 On the other hand everyone on here is mature enough I hope to all agree ,  that who evers  f@#$n spot it is , where ever it is , like little jonny says ,

 be the bigger man and simply just move away , do it ourselves , just go somewhere else.

 If you cruised along the wonderful southern beachs like the warren or yeagarup looking for salmon on a nice day with hardly anyone on the beach , miles and miles

 of gutters , would you stop 50 m from a another group and start fishing , I wouldnt , couldnt live with the shame.

 and I wouldn’t do what has been described as I’m pretty sure it would of pissed him off if same same.

Qustion is would B in B have dropped if the sounder was lit.... hmmmm  will never know.

 I was coming from shore heading west  and they were drifting to the north so I wasn’t even in their “drift” so I did not drop in on their drift line. That’s it from me on the topic I can’t be bothered anymore. 

 The true pinger doesn't stop he drives past you, waves while he's got his finger on the waypoint trigger. Anyway Mr Poo pants looks like we have agenuine troll on the site, ever put up a report??

Probably wont respond Andy, Poopants or Shit Stirer maybe one in the same.

 ohh shit !! Or I mean poo pants ! I think 

you hit the nail on the head there seakem . 

Clap clap .. jobs a good one .. 

 Couple of factors here.... 

One can't be proven so guilty until proven innocent. 

The second is,  give a bloke some room even if you've previously fished the spot.  If he's beaten you there drag your ass out of bed earlier next time and you won't have this carry on.

 I fish at Mewstone after Easter. Amazing how many people are at my spot.....and we all get along...

 Hey Andy I've never put up a report either! 

 Thanks mate! 

That's what my mum always said.... 

I'll send u a vid on Viber mate 

Good radar ping everyone from few ks away.Most of people's spots come from pro pots or around them .So who Hasn't fished around pots.?

 Was not going to weigh in on this but i thought i may be able to take out a bit of missconception around this matter.

How can i shed some light, well i was the deckie on Nelly's boat for the day and i thank him muchly for this.

Now i know both Nelly and Ryan and consider both ripper fellas so not interested in taking sides. More so in just clarifying the situation.

The spot we where fishing at time is on a patch of nothing noticable, infact unless you are on the ball with sounder reading it will most likely look like nothing at all to you when in fact it is a huge patch of black coral. Never see pots on it, so not a spot that is easy to come across.

Whilst drifting the spot a larger black CC was heading in a specific direction and all of a sudden took a turn in our direction wich is what caught our attention (so certainly not heading to this spot initially), the boat came into view and got well within 50m or closer before it came to an almost hault and the reason i can guage this is i am blind as a bat, had not worn my glasses for the day and could read clear as a bell "back in black", so I am disinclined to accept that the spot that was being Checked was a spot that was 150m away but as i know Ryan is a ripper fella and honest i will ceratinly not say that he is spinning yarns. As the boat drove off there where some lovely hand gestures comming from BOTH boats as this sent frustration into ovger drive.

I get that this spot may have been previously marked, however when stopped near Nelly's boat there was alot of sounder fondaling happening wich i think may have heightened speculation of a new spot gaining entry into the gps, it still puzzles me as to how someone who has a tonne of marks would even bother comming up on another vessle instead of just moving on to another spot and saving the bullshit.

I dont get into the whole pinging shit and as you can clearly read above im not stating here nor there and you can take what i have written however you may please but how about some common courtesy as in my many years of boating i have generally found the people who condone such actions are the biggest culprits of the lot. I personally ensure I take a super wide berth if someone else is already fishing the numbers i was heading to as i believe it is just the right thing to do and i firmly believe that if you are a real fisherman with morals then you would practice the same.

I also have owned a shit tonne of different boats and have more spots than i could dream of ever using hence why i never need to get close to other boats and frustrate the skippers no matter where they are.... Pretty simple i reccon.

Any who, happy monday to all and hope you all got to take advantage of the good weather over the weekend

Brenz

 hi mate , long time no see - i have a heap of spots heading West and Heading North out of Mindarie depending on weather conditions and after discussion with my decke Ben (who is one of  my  crane fleet controllers and sitting about 3 feet away from me as i type this- Lol!) we were spot checking all the way from about 28 metres to about 40m (where you were if i remeber correctly) we dont drift just hover on the motor in reverse and drop fishing very small lumps/coral etc , and these spots are not in a straight line they zig and zag over the many different paths we have travelled from our "go to" lumps so often we are veering left and right a few hundred metres while heading for a particular spot , i was heading to a spot in 44m a couple of miles outside of you when i decided to check a reasonably reliable one on the way and that's why we veered off course , i hadnt even noticed your boat at that stage so much that Ben said "are you going to drive through that boat in front of us" now without any malice or bad intentions i continued on did a slow tight circle of "my" spot which certainly wasn't in your drift line and after seeing nothing of interest throttled up and kept going , Ben said there was a bity of carry on (gesturing) coming from the other boat but i dont usually bother with that stuff so i didn't worry and kept searching - just to be clear i don't ping , have never pinged and i  also dont really get bothered by anyone coming close out on the water as we fish a very particular way and most people fish differently so dont get on the small spots we fish.

 Can we all have a group hug  excluding Mr Poo pants of course.

 You wanna see the size of the radar on our new boat.....I need to get value for money, so anybody within 15 km, I am gonna ping the shit out of you......be warned 

 thata how you “found” me in 44m on Saturday John! Lol. Ole shitty dacks can blow me. 

 no amount of pinging would help most of the losers on here anyway. Need to know how to read a sounder first. Look for the guy with the biggest fastest boat with the most Stellas and you got a pinger for sure. All the gear and no idea. If you want opinions on Perth wankers just ask the locals in Seabird.

 I must be doing it wrong. I once cruised over the say Hi to Ryan a few months back but forgot to make a mark on the sounder! ha ha.

This all seems a bit odd given that the original poster didn't seem to know who Ryan was yet the deckie has fished with him before? Would think Deckie would mention Ryan is a prolific poster of fishing reports on here and probably wouldn't need someone else's mark.

If you're upset someone is fishing your marks when you are out there, think of all the people fishing them when you aren't out there!

 Not at all Zoom, i know ryan from other avenues than here, also never fished with ryan. When i am a deckie on someone elses boat i shut my mouth and dont cause drama. Had no idea this was going to get posted so there for never realised the real issue.

You will note that several times i said in my post that i am not taking sides, nor am i pointing fingers... Once again it comes down to me being a guest on someone elses pride and joy and i am there to be seen and not heard.

Thankyou how ever for the conspiricy theory i will be sure to archive it.

 please lock this thread Adam. 

 my mark near yours is a  small lump about 10m sq  not flat coral for drifting , it was actually given to me by a good mate Joff Weston who most of you have heard of i am sure  (Joffa works for me as do 4 other ex Bluewater tackle Managers/staff  ) its called Balddhu on my GPS for obvious reasons and 50 metres or 150 metres may as well be on the moon for how close you need to be on it but its a good one that has produced many times, i'll say it again i apologise for upsetting you but i was NOT pinging you.

 mate you got caught, you got called out, no amount of yarn spinning is going to change the fact you are a pinger. Be a man, admit it and move on and not to the next persons spot LOL.

 Many years ago, a new bloke on board, green as grass.
He's standing up on the foredeck holding up an aluminium frypan.

"what the fuck is he doing?"

"shut up, we told him we are calibrating the radar, betting on how long before he's gets suspicious..."

 What ever happened to Italia 458 ? Have they been reincarnated as Poopants ?

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