Salmon yesterday
Submitted by Jakeu420 on Sun, 2010-11-21 04:03
Caught 7 salmon in cockburn sound yesterday arvo =) kept 4 , 3 shark bait haha
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Goodz
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Oh reallllllllly...
Oh reallllllllly...
MattMiller
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hmmm
here we go again.....
snappermiles
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awsome! i had a bloke tell me there was a small school down near
the yacht club jetty at the start of the week! did you get any pictures?? how big were they??
ALL FISHERMEN ARE LIARS EXCEPT YOU AND ME! AND IM NOT SO SURE ABOUT YOU!
NightWolf
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baot or lb
baot or lb
Jakeu420
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It was land base
Went down to cockburn harbour with my lil fliki 4 herring and i was using green straw nailed 7 in 1 hour while every one else getting none, biggest 48cm
MattMiller
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I thought
you said salmon mate???
Jakeu420
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I took the fliki for herring
I took the fliki for herring and just got nailed by salmon
MattMiller
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OK, no worries
biggest 48cm, so i'm thinking more salmon trout
fishnut
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nice catch
Question - why do fishermen call them 'salmon trout'? not aimed at you Mat, coz its very common. It seems a bit odd to me - I know it's because of the markings, but we don't have a different name for juveniles of many other species in such wide use, so why salmon? I refuse to call them salmon trout, but guess my little protest won't change decades of habit
aussie_breamer
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salmon trout
hey fishnut.
I have heard that juvenile salmon and salmon trout are a different species.
aparrently juv salmon have gold dots
and salmon trout have darker brown dots.
I could be wrong but that is what I have heard.
cheers, Tom
bream slayer
fishnut
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no mate, definately are the
no mate, definately are the same species - I guess that's why I don't like the name - it just makes things confusing
till
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Someone is taking you for a
Someone is taking you for a ride. Juvenile Salmon are Salmon Trout.
Alan James
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I think it may be a name
commonly used in Victoria. All the more reason to stick with salmon. Having said that it's not a true salmon either. In NZ they use the Maori name kahawai.
fishnut
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true - I suppose salmon is
true - I suppose salmon is an abbreviation - the correct name is Western Australian Salmon, but that's just a mouthful!
MattMiller
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Having said that
there are 2 sub-species, Eastern Australian Salmon/ Kahawai - Arripis trutta. Then the Western Australian Salmon - Arripis truttacea.
MattMiller
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Other examples
could be 'Choppers' for small tailor or 'soapies' for small Mulloway.
I think it just stems from the huge number of localised names for different species in different regions like Mulloway/Jewfish/ River kingfish, Samsonfish/Kingie, Trickie snapper/blue lined Emperor, Garfish/Gardies etc.
I think the name Salmon trout has it's place. In their juvenile form >1kg they are quite different to when their adult. They also look quite similar to Herring, just a few small differences. Smaller eyes, dark blotch on pectoral fin, lack of dark blotches on tail fins. Each to their own mate but i'll keep calling them Salmon Trout.
flangies
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I Watched FWA- how to catch
I Watched FWA- how to catch a salmon
they explained that salmon trout are actually different species to Australian Salmon, I don't know about you guys but it totally confused me.
fishnut
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yeah mate, I seem to
yeah mate, I seem to remember seeing that too - but it's not correct. There are three species of Australian Salmon
Eastern Australian Salmon (Victoria + Tas to Sth Qld, including in NZ where its called kahawai)
Western Australian Salmon (Victoria + Tas to Perth-ish)
Giant Kahawai (Pacific Islands, north of NZ)
then there is the Australian Herring (Victoria to around Shark Bay)
Paully
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Have to say
I thought they were a different species, I know what they call salmon trout in SA are not Juv salmon that we know.
Ben Derecki
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Some info from Fisheries on
Some info from Fisheries on it here (400kb PDF) in the opening paras.
They say they're both the same species.
dundee
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In tassie
In tasmania they call salmon trout cocky salmon and the adults blackbacks. In vic they call tailor skippy. So its no wonder why people get confused. Everyone from different areas call things different.
fishnut
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that is why there is an
that is why there is an official list to try and standardise it - at least for retail and scientific situations. What the blokes at the jetty use will take a lot longer to standardise........
anyway, if anyone is interested in what each species is 'officially' and 'legally' called, it is all here (it's easiest to use the 'find' or 'search' function of your browser):
http://www.marine.csiro.au/caab/namelist.htm
pudzz
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Maybe
someone should catch a salmon trout and a juvi salmon stick em in a big fish tank and see what they grow into hahahaha