Saltwater flies

Hi there,

Im about to try saltwater flyfishing for the first time. I have an 8W rod and line. What flies would you suggest for a beginner? Im targeting trevally and queenies and anything else thats hanging around Westmoore Island. Thanks.

Sean

 

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clouser minnow and deceivers,

Sat, 2012-06-09 17:46

clouser minnow and deceivers, hope you have been practicing!!!

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Small unweighted flies are

Sat, 2012-06-09 20:27

Small unweighted flies are easier to cast. Practicing without a fly on the end at first is a good idea. But Yewiefish85 is spot on with his fly suggestions Theres plenty of videos on the net to help you... Remember you are casting the line... not the fly, also practice your stripping techniques, nice and quick for queenies and trevally.. Just get out there and do it. You will catch fish. Queenies/Trevs love it when you slap the fly on the water..... finness is not needed. 

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as trymyluck said practice

Sun, 2012-06-10 08:49

as trymyluck said practice casting without a hook first, I found it easier to tie a cotton bud on the end and practice down at the park :)

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be persistant too, take only

Sun, 2012-06-10 09:37

be persistant too, take only the fly rod for a session or two, that way you won't be tempted to revert back to the spin gear, do you have a stripping basket? and a spare spool of line!!!

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Yewie...a what? stripping

Sun, 2012-06-10 19:49

Yewie...a what? stripping basket? im borrowing a fly reel from Jude. He's got a 10Wrod but not taking that with me. Will take the one you gave me as well.C Cant have too many rods and reels.

I do want to devote a whole day to fly fishing off the beach/sand banks between the islands though. But i will have to take a spin outfit with me, just in case..lol

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this is a stripping basket,

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:01

this is a stripping basket, you strip the line into the basket, saves it getting tangled on rocks, feet, etc. and makes it a bit easier to shoot out another cast, what rod and reel does Jude have?, you can always take my 10wt if you need. 

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some flies i recommend

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:06

clouser minnow

Deciever

crazy charlie

surf candies

bush pig

 

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cheers...what size

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:09

cheers...what size hooks/flies are they? what size fly u recommend?

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Ohhh...jude got a 10w rod

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:07

Ohhh...jude got a 10w rod with a reel thats got 30lb line..thats what he tells me. he offered to let me take the rod too, but last time he used it, as he brought a fish close, he heard a cracking sound. im not gonna risk it. he told me he bought his gear for $800 some years ago. there are some 10w rods on ebay etc. just gotta find one that will deliver in time for the trip

im surfing the net looking for suitable rods/flies etc. not an easy task.

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1/0, 2/0 and 3/0 should do

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:15

1/0, 2/0 and 3/0 should do you good, take my 10wt rod, hopefully someone on here can recommend somewhere down there to buy some flies or at least look at some.

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r u sure about the rod? saw a

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:28

r u sure about the rod? saw a g-loomis on ebay for sale. didnt put a bid on...yet...i was thinking 6/0 or7/0 flies??

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keep tellin ya that the gear

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:41

keep tellin ya that the gear is there if you want to use it, that loomis is pick up only from NSW, 6/0 and 7/0 flies are huge, what size queenies you expecting?, i would still only be using 3/0 or 4/0 for the class of queenies that i get off the pylons

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hey im being optimistic about

Sun, 2012-06-10 20:55

hey im being optimistic about the fish..lol..cant be any worse than the trip last year?? dont jinx me.

check out this site (http://www.troutflies.com.au/store/index.php?_a=category&cat_id=8) got some god flies there. thinking of getting the 30 saltwater flies in an aluminium box for $53.96..i can choose hook size.

the g-loomis says only in nsw but if u read furthur down can post it.

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that pack looks to be the

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:03

that pack looks to be the goods, free postage for orders over $55 too, if you end up getting stuff from them let me know before you order, i think i want some bread flies

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No worries. will prob order

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:12

No worries. will prob order later this week so that delivery will be made after i get back to hedland. what u want the bread flies for?

oh yeah..went fishing in freo last week...piss poor..few small blowies and a small herring. actually had to buy a new rod and reel coz i didnt take any with me. the reel is same as i have up there for the bream at the jetty. the rod is a 2 piece...will leave that behind for the nephew..

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did you throw squid jig

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:21

did you throw squid jig around?, i want to try for daimond scale mullet down the beach, let me know about that order

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nah...too depressed after

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:28

nah...too depressed after seeing such small blowies..at least in hedland if u got a blowfish it would be decent size..lol..

 

will do on the flies..ill txt you. u hanging out to use ur new jigging gear?

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hell yeah, cant wait to see

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:41

hell yeah, cant wait to see it, hope it gets more use than my other jigging gear!!!

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 Why not just tie your own

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:36

 Why not just tie your own flies, its not hard, at worst you can buy a fly in the pattern u want  and pull it apart, they are easy and well worth the bucks youll spend on materials... honestly the clouser and crzy charlie will take ya a couple of minutes each.. for a fraction of the price, take your gear away with u and tie them on demand... I spent a few years strictly sw flyfishing and the gratification that comes from catching a fish on something u tied is awesome... it really becomes(as with fly fishing in general I suppose) man vs fish... it makes the c'n'r so fullfilling... If u want some help tying, Im happy to help.. not sure where ya live, but its a hobby on top of the one u already have... must admit though... using the Mrs nail polish gets a few eyebrows turned!!!

Troy

PS might do a few instructional pictorials this week of SW fly tying.. stay tuned

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Cheers and thanks Troy for

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:46

Cheers and thanks Troy for the idea...perhaps after ive learned how to cast a line and hopefully catch fish, ill learn to tie my own flies...ur right about the satisfaction from catching a fish own your own home made flies. pictorials would be a good idea too. take it easy.

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 If ya want lessons mate,

Sun, 2012-06-10 21:57

 If ya want lessons mate, gimme a holler, Im in Thornlie.. and itll only take me half an hour to teach ya the basics... youll be laughing at fishing show hosts trying to cast from then on... 

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cheers again troy..not sure

Sun, 2012-06-10 22:26

cheers again troy..not sure if i can get around to it..i leave for hedland next week and the days are filling up fast. plus not got my gear yet. what kind of fly would u suggest i get for the westmore trip...colours/size?

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 No worries mate.... maybe

Sun, 2012-06-10 22:41

 No worries mate.... maybe when ya get back... let us know how ya go!

Troy

EDIT: that kinda SW fly fishing wants big flies, ~5-6inch clouser style, on big hooks(thats what Id be taking).. not sure where to buy them from though

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Troy...i found an online site

Sun, 2012-06-10 23:03

Troy...i found an online site that specialises in all things trout/flies..the link in furthur up. was thinking size 3/0 4/0 hooks. check it out.the prices looked good...but what do i know..lol

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Lefty Kreh..what a legend!

Wed, 2012-06-20 11:13

Lefty Kreh..what a legend! Didnt realise that there is a difference between casting a floating and sinking line. Now to practise!

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Keep in mind there can be a

Wed, 2012-06-20 11:53

Keep in mind there can be a difference between casting a 5wt line on a river with pinpoint accuracy and casting a 10wt into a 15kn breeze in the saltwater where you mostly just want distance.

That bit about only using your forearm and keeping 10-2 works well for light lines and accurate casting, but for punching big flies into wind where delicate accurate presentation isnt as important can call for a different technique (obviously you'll still need some accuracy). Saltwater casting may involve heavy head lines (like the Rio outbound series), an almost 180 degree arc on your cast, using your whole arm and twisting your body, double hauling, and minimal false casting ;)

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cheers hlokk....yeah lefty

Wed, 2012-06-20 12:06

cheers hlokk....yeah lefty said there would be differences...im using a carbon fibre 10w rod and 8w sinking line...got no choice with the line as ive borrowed the reel from a friend..im a first time fly fisher...

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An 8w line is really going to

Wed, 2012-06-20 13:25

An 8w line is really going to struggle loading up a 10w rod, particularly if its a 'standard' line, not an outbound type (which are heavier weighted to load up the rod quickly for big quick casts).

You'll find it a lot easier if you get some line that matches what you want (i'm sure your friend wont mind if you buy some line to use with the reel). If you visit Chris at Flyworld in Bayswater and take your rod and reel, he'll sort you out with some line, and you can also then pick up some flies and he also does casting lessons in the park near the shop.

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Oh now you tell me...lol...if

Wed, 2012-06-20 14:58

Oh now you tell me...lol...if only I had this info earlier. Unfortunately I have returned to the sunny northern climate of the Pilbara. I have less that 2 weeks to do some practise before heading off to the island. bugger!

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You'll be able to get line

Thu, 2012-06-21 09:28

You'll be able to get line shipped up. I know Chris will post line up to you express if needed.


For casting, practice practice practice. Also have a look over this website which covers a bunch of tips: http://www.sexyloops.com/flycasting/contents.shtml

 

For practicing your loops indoors, you can take the top off your flyrod (half the length so 1 or 2 sections) and thread some brickies string through. Tie a simple overhand knot in one hand. Put a few m of line out the tip and work on your loop control ;)

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Thanks for the help

Thu, 2012-06-21 12:41

Thanks for the help hlokk...much appreciated.

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