Shark Attack

Down at Gracetown, surfer being flown to Perth as we speak, Unsure of what shark involved, but there were lots of witnesses.

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Surf comp

Mon, 2018-04-16 10:21

Down there ATM I think. Not good

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story at news.com.au

Mon, 2018-04-16 10:27

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Mon, 2018-04-16 10:26

 Yeah, that’s been suspended, rescue chopper went over Rockingham with the victim just 5 minutes ago, so they’ve gotten him to hospital pretty quick.

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This shark situation is out

Mon, 2018-04-16 10:51

This shark situation is out of control!

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That's again too close to

Mon, 2018-04-16 12:44

That's again too close to home for me....

I'm fortunately away at work otherwise I woulda been there somewhere, I hope this fella is ok!!

Going to get max publicity this one!

Merman you'd better get your shark hugging suit on dude and get out there.....

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There has been a second one

Mon, 2018-04-16 16:06

 Also at Gracetown, only hours later. Sounds like it got more of the board than the surfer in this case. 

Shark probably is misunderstood and just needs a big hug.

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2 other 1 as well

Mon, 2018-04-16 16:06

 I just heard there has been 1 more aswell  this arvo at  lefties ... on perth now ..

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Two attacks within miles of each other

Mon, 2018-04-16 16:07

 Dive shops closing, how much more does this government need before taking action 

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Too many fucking greenie do

Mon, 2018-04-16 16:43

Too many fucking greenie do gooders for any government too do anything because a life is not as important as a vote.. Hope all is well

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Where they wearing shark shields

Mon, 2018-04-16 17:17

Here we go again, kill all the sharks drain the oceans the sky is about to fall down.

Whats on the go at the moment, salmon schools that's what, and what do large sharks eat, that's right salmon, if you go surfing over reef which just so happens to be the number one haunt of schools of salmon then pursuing your sport could be risky.

What about mitigating the risk some what, do you wear a shark shield,. which we the taxpayers are subsidising to reduce the risk while you enjoy your sport. And before anyone goes off their trolley about how useless they are they are a lot better than nothing, and what about the colour of the wet suits we wear black, Hmmm perhaps a bit seal looking one could say.
Take a bit of responsibility for your actions and safety people.

Now just to set things straight, no I'm not a rabid tree hugger or vegan or anything else that doesn't believe in reducing the threat by culling, just in this case I think a bit of cold mature looking at the situation and adopting a bit of passive protection would help.
just my view.

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Whale Carcass

Mon, 2018-04-16 17:22

 So a whale carcass washes up at the beach next door (Lefty’s) and the whole area is closed but this 2nd guy who gets hit is out in the water by himself at a closed beach , even with them patrolling the area AND after this mornings attack including a 4.5m White sighting with fisheries discolosing everything ....

 

Darwin awards candidate...

 

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Must admit

Mon, 2018-04-16 17:23

Never seen whites follow salmon. Only bronzies, anyway I think they need to do something.

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I’ve seen a few

Mon, 2018-04-16 19:33

Fishing around Mewstone a couple of years ago for salmon.  Had a white follow a fish right up to the boat and lunge as we got the fish in the net, maybe about 2.5-3m.

Same location, later the same day, angler had a fish on, fighting for about ten minutes when the line pinged and broke.  Looked down line a saw a large shape in the water.  Backed up to it until it was sitting broadside across the transom, it extended easily half a metre either side of the transom, making it around 4-4.5m.

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 Can't believe some people

Mon, 2018-04-16 17:49

 Can't believe some people think that humans are so precious that 3mtr plus white sharks wouldn't predat on them purposely  they are not mixing us up with seals or  salmon there finding a new prey and sussing it out there will only be more attacks if the numbers aren't brought down and the remainder get a education not to f$ck with us.

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Old mate

Mon, 2018-04-16 19:15

 Old mate with the red board has no idea how to identify sharks. The bite mark on his board looks nothing like a white shark bite. Bull or tiger maybe, not a white. I'm also confused about how there can be a full bite mark on his board and only a nibble on his knee?

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Strange isn't it

Tue, 2018-04-17 17:51

Shark with a bite radius like that shown on the red board would be one hell of a size shark in my experience.

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Darwin award for sure on the second attack

Mon, 2018-04-16 19:19

So Lefties/Umbies has had fatal attacks in 2004 and 2013, a dead beaked whale is reported on the beach at 9:30 this morning,a 4m shark is reported on sharkwatch at the beach around 10am. This beach and nearby beaches are closed and signposted due to this mornings attack, but the sharkwatch site notes:
"Officers patrolling waters and beaches today have advised that up to 10 surfers at various breaks chose to ignore the closure signage, verbal warnings, and advice issued through SharkSmart and SLSWA Twitter, and remained in the water."

Someone decides to have a surf anyway and gets attacked.
?Oh - Must be the government's problem?

Note - nearby Hamelin bay area has had a shark advice and beach closure up to Bob's Hollow since the 12th due to the recent "whale strandings". One of the reasons for all the jetskis and the drone at the big surf event

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 Yep that's the knee jerk

Mon, 2018-04-16 20:36

 Yep that's the knee jerk generic response of most punters, blame the gov without educating themselves.

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Yep

Mon, 2018-04-16 19:33

 Not feeling so sorry for number 2, just crazy after being warned. Lucky to have legs left.

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 not good for them that got

Mon, 2018-04-16 19:42

 not good for them that got git. when a warning goes out and some chose to ignore the warning is crazy. the sharks are only doing what comes naturally, looking for a feed not playing. we go out fishing and shooting for sport and a feed , does that make us better than them , were only doing what come natural , hunter gatherer . 

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Lol just seen number 2 video

Mon, 2018-04-16 21:36

Seems to be honest ( didn't know). Why can't they trial orca sounds surely be effective. In swim areas ( surfing areas ect). Only thing whites fear. Worth a shot. Keeps greens happy. They can record sounds underwater. Why not try transmit them underwater,

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 Ive met and surfed with 

Mon, 2018-04-16 22:14

 Ive met and surfed with  that guy a few times in Exmouth.  He aint quite right in the head.  He would of known the beach was closed.  At least this may stop other idiots surfing when beaches are closed. 

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 It's a long walk back from

Tue, 2018-04-17 00:59

 It's a long walk back from Lefties missing a couple of legs.  Old China was very very lucky.  Dumb luck I'd call it. 

Zoom you sound as though you're a bit of an expert.  Could it have been a hammer or thrasher or possibly a gummy? 

Megladon you also sounds like quite the expert.  

Do u wear a helmet when u drive?  Surely you must. Surely you should,   The experts would say you should.  

What colour wetsuit do white pointers like/dislike the most? 

Considering a surfers board is in the water the whole time and is white ( usually)  compared with legs and arms that are NOT always below the water the whole seal looking thing doesn't stack up. 

Sure a body boarder looks like a fat turtle thing but not so much a surfer. 

I also don't believe white sharks Specifically follow salmon schools but no doubt they are turning up in numbers with the ramp up of the whale migration. 

Solution? 

Fuck knows.  

Let's just close all the beaches shall we. 

For those that read the article Hezzy posted on estimated white numbers I'm expecting attacks to increase significantly in the coming years.  As the juvi's mature and move onto mammals for tucker the attack rate will increase.  Not something I'm looking forward to. 

 

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 No expert bigger than you

Tue, 2018-04-17 07:32

 No expert bigger than you Timboon 

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"Do u wear a helmet when u

Tue, 2018-04-17 09:35

"Do u wear a helmet when u drive?  Surely you must. Surely you should,   The experts would say you should."

That is a brilliant counter to the constant stream of victim blaming rhetoric we see on social media platforms after an attack. Well played indeed Boon.

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Too easy a solution. Gotta

Tue, 2018-04-17 10:25

Too easy a solution. Gotta keep those otherwise unemployable road safety muppets busy. 

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Whites on salmon schools

Tue, 2018-04-17 11:11

See my post above about whites following salmon schools, that was in 2015.

There was also the video footage going around in late 2014 when a couple of guys had a big white next to the boat while fishing for salmon near Mewstone. 

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Re colour of wetsuits,

Tue, 2018-04-17 12:11

Diving with Les Bail down Albany in the nineties, used to dive with a bright green and blue /white wetsuit with yellow fins. The fellow I was partnered with called me a Christmas tree, I looked at his black fins and wetsuit, commented he looked like a seal and was welcome to dive with me, sharks don't eat Christmas trees.
regards Lindsay.

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well here is another article

Tue, 2018-04-17 12:18

well here is another article that says GW Are not on the increase in any big way

personally i doubt that , but im not a scientist , so my thoughts are worth bugger all really ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-09/great-white-shark-numbers-stable-drum-lines-ruled-out-wa/9415898

now here is another fact link re the fatal shark attacks in wa since records where kept

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_shark_attacks_in_Australia#Western_Australia

so if you look at the last one it shows wa had 4 shark attacks between 1967 to 2000, that4 in 33 years
then from 2000 to now we have had 15 fatal attacks ?? so why the big increase ?in that last 15-17 years ??

its ok to say the population has grown , more people are swimming or using the ocean ... but what was the population in say 1995 in wa ?? well it was 1.74 million , by 2015 it was 2.59 million apparently ...so an additional 850 000 odd people living here and swimming here blah , blah blah ...... but in that 20 years we had 12 fatal shark attacks .is that not a significant increase .. that must make the everage punter question GW numbers rising in that time ,,, givne they where protected since 1991 ..the time line of GW being protected and their continued offspring maturing into perfect hunter killers , the average bear would ask does the time line for both increase in attacks and population growth/water users, and maturing sharks look a little out of whack with a spike in attacks since 2000 ??

the population has grown , but the % of people in that growth number of 850k who may be water users is not any greater than the decades before hand when shark attacks did not rise so quickly ... it has a direct comparison rate to sharks being protected & their numbers growing , contrary to what the ''science ''may wish us to believe imo

this is the dilemma no gov or entity has the answers for at present .... it will continue to rise as the mature sharks need space and food , and we are on the menu regarldess of shark shields or other mitigating factors , being worn etc imo as you wont get everyone to comply all of the time

is suggest they build some more enclosed swimming areas for peeps to use , surfers/divers are much harder to corral in one area

just some thoughts

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Depends who did the study and

Tue, 2018-04-17 13:10

Depends who did the study and what result they where looking to achieve Hezzy. The ABC news will be biased towards the greens and labour. We are seeing a huge rise in the amount of sharks up here over the last 5 years and are finding they are well tuned into boats and becoming a pain in the arse. Luckily we don't see whites.

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 Thanks for the compliment

Tue, 2018-04-17 14:40

 Thanks for the compliment Zoom, 

 

I'm just curious as to why/how you would assume ( i'm assuming you assumed the way you came across ) that A - it was not a white and B - how unusual it is his board was bitten but he was barely touched?

 

Although you may think i am an expert Zoom in fact i am far from it, owever with the experience i do have under my belt i wouldnt go on the record stating that its not such n such a species and it is in fact another especially without having the board in my hands to have a decent look...

 

I grew up in South Oz, lots of jaws on lotsa walls, i've read every attack story in the past twenty years thats been printed but there is no way i could confidently state what sort of shark i thought had a go at bozo's board while he was foolishly surfing at Leftys near the carcass...

 

What i have done however is put two n two together, 4.5mtr white attacks Alex at Cobbles, lots of blood in water but doesnt get a feed, buggers off down the coasti'd say a bit fired upand walla there is old Brains sitting all by himself afew hundred metres from attack 1.

 

Wham has a go, Brains is however very very lucky that the shark has hit him side on and got a gob full of foam and fibre glass,  Brains does the smartest thing he's done all day and heads to the dunes to empty the wetsuit full of shit that he no doubt had....

 

To add to that theory, John John getting buzzed and sending his drone up to see another 2 whites tells me that there is a VERY VERY good chance that if Bozo said he thought he was attacked by a white then blow me down with a feather - It actually could have been...

 

Sorry to ruin your conspiracy Zoom...

 

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Blah blah

Tue, 2018-04-17 19:13

 Was there anything important in your drivel? Couldn't be bothered to read it. 

Any wonder it's windy where you are 

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Put this up for a Pulitzer

Wed, 2018-04-18 08:07

Put this up for a Pulitzer Prize???

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 Gday Lindsay, If it makes

Tue, 2018-04-17 14:46

 Gday Lindsay,

 

If it makes you feel safer putting the chrissy tree outfit on for a dive then go for it but i've heard Yellow is not a wise choice in board colour, Brains had a bright red board....

 

I'm not sold on the colour thing but what ever makes people feel safer i spose...

 

Back to the salmon thing, I'm not saying they dont follow schools of Salmon, of course they do!!

 

Fish/sharks follow fish simple but....

 

If that was the case that Whites turn up because of the salmon then surely when there is a 30-50 T school of Salmon slowly migrating up the coast then Whites shouldbe present often and from all the ariel pics and footage we see nowadays that doesnt seem to be the case...

 

Bronzies, yep shit loads of em.....

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Prey

Tue, 2018-04-17 15:38

Was always under the impression that GW's start on fish and progress to larger prey (seals, whales, etc.) as they grow themselves.

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Went and watched the sunset

Wed, 2018-04-18 07:37

Went and watched the sunset at Gas Bay off Gnarabup that afternoon and there was at least 20 - 30 surfers out at each point - some still out 30 minutes after sunset.

Ya go in the water you take a risk. 

Just exactly how many sharks do you want killed before you'll feel safe FFS?

 

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well said

Wed, 2018-04-18 07:57

 well said red dog !

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Somewhere back to around the

Wed, 2018-04-18 08:10

Somewhere back to around the level of the mid 90's would be mint. Only problem is that we don't know what that number is and neither did the government before bowing down to the greenies and making them protected.

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Imagine the terror

Wed, 2018-04-18 08:11

 Of it coming back 3 times.

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Margies Cancelled

Wed, 2018-04-18 08:45

 How will the government spin this?

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Wed, 2018-04-18 09:09

 Yeah, a couple of things have contributed to it also I think, and it’s not just the shark attacks. They’ve been saying all week the finals will be on this coming weekend and the weather is going to turn to shite. So that would have been the final straw.

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The only thing that can save

Wed, 2018-04-18 10:39

The only thing that can save WA tourism is an Oprah Winfrey quokka selfie

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Or

Wed, 2018-04-18 11:12

 Obumma

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Forecast

Wed, 2018-04-18 09:22

You're right it is rubbish for sure, but they've surfed comps in onshore rubbish plently of times. Think about the crap they surf at Rio.

The douche you paddled out at lefties after the first attack sealed it...

1 year to run on the contract for this comp and then i'd say it's probably done for. 

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This government only gives a

Wed, 2018-04-18 11:55

This government only gives a shit about tourism in Perth anyway, do you think they give a shit about the rest of the state.

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If you want to reduce the risks in life

Thu, 2018-04-19 01:09

Sit in front of the TV every minute you are awake and have a long marvellous life....not

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Hey Meg, what's you thoughts

Thu, 2018-04-19 07:39

Hey Meg, what's you thoughts on the fogging of mosquitos down your way when mosquito numbers get out of control or the risk of contracting ross river virus is very high?

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Risk mitigation

Thu, 2018-04-19 21:10

Jack,
even if they do a bit of fogging, it doesn't mean that it will be totally safe for you and Meg to make-up by doing a naked dance together at dawn and dusk near the mosquito swamp.
You'll still have to take some personal responsibility by putting some insect repellant on, and it would be better to avoid the busy mosquito times.

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Don't go in the water

Thu, 2018-04-19 21:36

Sorry, I meant don't go out side after 1700hrs when the mossies are as thick as and as big as.
If you do and you get a dose of ross River who are you going to blame, the council is doing all it can ie: spraying etc and then it warns the local populace that the mossies are at there worst just on sun set. Now if you want to dis regard their advice go right ahead and venture out in your shorts and short sleeves.

But don't say you were not warned of the danger then want every living mossies dead, its not going to happen take responsibility for your own health cover up if you must go out side (buy a shark shield and give yourself a chance)

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Close to Darwin Award for the first attack too?

Thu, 2018-04-19 20:56

I've just read today's West - it appears that the first attack victim had been forced out of the water earlier that morning due to a shark sighting, but after an hour on the beach some of the surfers went back into the water at the same break "thinking that it had gone away and that because it had not been aggressive earlier it was likely not hungry". They had been back in the water just a few minutes when the attack occurred.

If there's a big shark sighted (even if it had been the only one within a hundred kilometers after "proposed culls/smart buoys" etc.) and you get into the water within an hour of sighting it, who is responsible for not mitigating the risk?

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 The council are spraying

Thu, 2018-04-19 22:48

 The council are spraying doing what they can to mitigate the problem  sounds like a cull to me same as needs doing to the white shark population gld were on the same page.