Smith AMJ-52H vs Jigging Master 250gr (either Powerspell or Ocean god/devil)

Bit of a random one, but looking at a new jig rod and thought I'd try for some feedback.

Chasing an overhead rod to fish PE5 on an Ocea Jigger 4000P.

Very keen on a Synit DS250 or Kaha 300, but the price tag is putting me off a bit right now.

I'll be hoisting jigs primarily in the 200-300gr range most the time, but might very occasionally put something a bit heavier or lighter on.

Main two cheaper rods I have been looking at are:

Smith AMJ-52H

Jigging Master Powerspell 250, Jigging Master Ocean Devil 50B/ML and Jigging Master Ocean God 280 (apparently all 3 of these the same blank - PS I know the Power spell is discontinued, but have access to a couple)

Anyone used both the Smith and one of those 3 JMs that can give me some pros/cons?

Cheers

Dan

 

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I'm quite a big fan Of the

Wed, 2012-07-04 09:48

I'm quite a big fan Of the AMJ series, They are very well finished and have come down considerably in price recently. From memory the 52H will jig up to 330g which would be at its max without the rod saturating to much. Smith only offer one rod in the range that is overhead to suit what your after so there's not really much to compare with like other brands, I don't think you could go wrong with this rod

Another rod to have a look at would be the saltiga 57B which is quite a nice rod and might come into the bracket that your after.

 

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+1 for the 57b

Wed, 2012-07-04 17:01

+1 for the 57b

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+1 for the 52H. Valley Hill

Wed, 2012-07-04 18:50

+1 for the 52H. Valley Hill Exploder is another good option

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I must admit I hadn't

Wed, 2012-07-04 20:20

I must admit I hadn't considered the Valley Hills.

Not that easy to get hold of to check out unfortunately, but might do some looking around

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Thanks LukeI was keen on an

Wed, 2012-07-04 09:58

Thanks Luke

I was keen on an AMJ S54H, but as you say, they are not available in overhead. I'm just concerned that with the higher jig rating and slightly shorter length of the 52H, it might be a bit too stiff through the top half.

Do you have stock of a 52H that I could look at?

I'm assuming the 57B is 5'7"? If so, then it is too long for what I am chasing.

Cheers

Dan

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Can't comment on the Smith

Wed, 2012-07-04 10:13

Can't comment on the Smith because I have never used one but rate the JM Powerspells very highly.

I have 2 OH and 2 spin rods in my collection. They are extremely tough rods and a joy to use.

I use a JM 200 and stella 8000SW with PE 4 for sambo jigging with jigs up to 300g. Love this combo, still reasonable light to have some fun but will just about stop anything in its tracks down our way.

The JM 250 would be spot on for PE5.

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I had the JM 250 powerspell

Wed, 2012-07-04 13:06

I had the JM 250 powerspell matched to a stella 8k.  great for the wrecks.

Haven't used a smith but they certainly load up well in the shop. 

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I have a 54H and its stiffer

Wed, 2012-07-04 10:28

I have a 54H and its stiffer then a 52H even though the ratings are higher on the 52H. We haven't got any in stock but can organise to bring some in and show you. I think if you compare the Smith to a JM rod you would go a smith, but thats my personal opinion.

The saltiga is 5'7", might be a bit long but its a very nice bit of kit

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Surprised about that. I have

Wed, 2012-07-04 12:59

Edit: nevermind me, i'm getting the 52H and 52EX confused thinking they were the same blank with different guides for some reason...

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The Smiths are all so old,

Wed, 2012-07-04 12:43

The Smiths are all so old, they were great, but they're a bit long in the tooth now.

Don't get that synit before me, or I will be really jealous ;)

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Have used a few smith rods

Wed, 2012-07-04 13:41

Have used a few smith rods and I rate them highly, Have had a shot on a couple jm rods and didn't have any probs with them but smith stand out for me personally

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Jigging Rods

Wed, 2012-07-04 16:47

Dan, theres certainly alot of good rods on the market and some of them have a higher price tag but that doesnt always mean better.

Jigging Master (JM) Ocean Devil are great value and due in soon, the JM Ocean God 280 also a nice rod with a slightly higher price point with the Fuji guides. As for the JM O/Gods we're still getting them in despite the JM Devils arriving.

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HiDoes the Ocean Devil have a

Wed, 2012-07-04 20:21

Hi

Does the Ocean Devil have a gimbal butt? Or rubber cap only?

I'm pretty set on a gimbal (which the Smith doesn't have) though understand they can be added.

Dan

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yes

Sun, 2012-07-08 13:36

Hi Dan,

 

The new Jigging Master Ocean Devil rod your looking at has a gimbal plus a cap also.

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 Go the kaha mate had the

Wed, 2012-07-04 18:54

 Go the kaha mate had the pleasure of using one last weekend, awsome rod!

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 Just throwing a spanner in

Wed, 2012-07-04 18:55

 Just throwing a spanner in the works here. What about the JM 3 kings special rods? The Black Hole cape cod special 250G is also a nice rod and a tad cheaper.

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Keen, but they are getting up

Wed, 2012-07-04 20:19

Keen, but they are getting up around Synit money, and I'm quite a fan of those

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 That's true. those new Kaha

Wed, 2012-07-04 20:24

 That's true. those new Kaha rods look amazing. So light.

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I've had the Smith Amj S54H

Sat, 2012-07-07 16:55

I've had the Smith Amj S54H and currently have the AMJ 54M. Both rods capable of jigging 300g jigs. The spins rating at 330g and the overhead at 280g.

Overheads always have a different action to the spin and the overheads are softer through out and more of a joy to use.

Jigging master are also good rods but they are stiffer through out but load fantastic. It's a personal choice. The overhead medium is acid wrap (which I really like ).

If your preference is for a softer tip rod then Smith will satisfy. I too would like a Synit and have been told that they are very similar in action to the Smiths'.   

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Temple Reef R11 O/H would be

Thu, 2012-08-09 13:21

Temple Reef R11 O/H would be a great choice Daniel, you haven't already chosen...

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Cheers JohnEnded up buying

Thu, 2012-08-09 16:09

Cheers John

Ended up buying both, but kept the Smith as it seems a better match for my OJ4000

Dan

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I have been using the R11

Sat, 2012-08-11 20:40

I have been using the R11 lately and its a brute stick, plenty of power and super light. Also saw a Smith AMJ 56MH snap mid but section today..

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