stupid job add on seek are they taking the piss
Submitted by petermac on Sun, 2015-03-15 21:03
job going on seek if your a qualified elect instro , have to be prepared help out with other trades and in the mess once a week , I am sure the will they will swamped with a applications
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plenty of people needing a
plenty of people needing a job, not all roses anymore. for to long now people think that they dont have to help others "as thats not in my job description thats the laccy's job" is my personal favourite.
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Yes Gilly I'm with you on this one
Times are getting difficult alright..If you can't or won't mix it up then piss off and make way for someone who will.
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Vinesh87
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Yeh I'm a sparky but we do
Yeh I'm a sparky but we do everything to get the job done!! Help other trades all the time!
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thats why we are called the
thats why we are called the jack of all trades
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been an elect insto
been an elect/instro for 39 years , don't mind helping out other trades(back in the day there was something called demarcation and spent plenty of time on strike over it ) but I would draw the line at working in the mess
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and that's well
the industry and construction in general is screwed. Eliteism has no place in the current climate, believe it not works a bit hard to find out there at the moment. I have 2 trades and a shef liad of experience but I'm not to good to clear tables if heeded.
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Vinesh87
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Yeh honeslty whatever pays
Yeh honeslty whatever pays the bills. Something different is also good for learning i think!
Tiling,plumbing,mech,ac,plastering,etc etc done it all! But not mess!
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Help out the mess? Cheffing, dining room attendant or dish washer perhaps?
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welcome to the real world
welcome to the real world
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gotta multi task
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It's amazing how precious
It's amazing how precious we've all become. Seems it's above some of us to clear a few dishes off a table or scrub a shithouse. Geez I do all of that and more in my small wrokshop. It's all about keeping your head above water in the harder times, because be realsitic it's not that hard yet. We've been lucky never to have experienced a depression. I'm constantly scratching for work at the moment but we are getting it because I'm making an effort. When the real shit hits the fan and you're about to lose your house and put your family on the street, scrubbing some dishes as part of your job description seems moot.
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Quiet enough to build me a
Quiet enough to build me a new boat ? haha
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Let's talk ;)
Let's talk ;)
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It sounds to me like the
It sounds to me like the Employer is doing the responsible thing by being up-front about the requirement. Someone will take the job on.
A couple of times I've had to remind precious employees about the last line within their position description "perform other duties as required".
Personally, I'd rather 'lower myself' to do something a bit different than not have a job.
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Agree
Yep times are tough a jobs a job at the end of the day your still getting paid wether it's cleaning dishes or pulling weeds I'm sure people would rather defrsify than have no no job
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In the earlier days I used to
In the earlier days I used to like doing different jobs during the day breaks the day up and in the current times if it comes down to between two blokes the bloke that's always willing to do most jobs without grudging and grumbling he will generally be the one who keeps his/her job
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times are not that tough
all the elect/ instros I know can cheery pick what jobs they want , yes I am retired but I like to keep my finger on the pulse , 3 times in the last 2 years Rio have rung me to help their instro through calibrating the feed back synchros to the to the wheel house of the tugs on where the props are , I have told them next time I will be charging them next time they ring , if you are good really good at your job you wont be asked to do any thing other than your job .And other thing when I had the shit blown out of me at work up north , if I wasn't in the union I would have been on my own and in deep deep shit as it was the union lawyers did evey thing for me and won me a great payout for me if I haddent been in the union I would have been stuffed and they didn't cost me a cent besause I was in the union
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Good thing your retired then
Good thing your retired then Pete as I know I wouldnt employ you with an attitude like that.
Job snob precious types just make it hard for every other poor bastard trying to get/keep a job .
In my opinion unions have gone too far demanding bullshit wages and conditions for what is at the end of the day just a days work , most of the time its not even that.
I know I`m gunna get heaps of flak for that but don't give a shit. Fire away boys :-)
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no flak mate
you are dead right.
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Yep bang on Marble, we've
Yep bang on Marble, we've overpriced ourselves and become uncompetitive. Wonder why everything is made in China.
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on the other side of the coin
on the other side of the coin how is it good for the country to have huge multinationals come in with 457 workers sucking out and exporting resources for a pittance and all the wages disappearing overseas with minimal tax paid?
Before OPEC started playing games with the oil price there seemed to be plenty of meat for international companies to make a healthy profit here along with the benefits that come from business in Australia.
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Rig
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Spot on marble
I was thinking the same from the initial whinge, the resource I work has been doing it a lot tougher for longer than this little O/G slump
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Anyone keen on a bit of light reading on union attitudes in Aus?
Check out 'Australia's secret war' by Hal G.P Colebatch. Eye opener for sure.
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Probably need to be careful
Probably need to be careful of taking a book as gospel just because it is published Bryan.
I have not read it however many peer reviews are quite scathing-given that it is written and published by a right wing publishing company
From ABC The Drum
"The specialists who have looked into his versions of the events he cites have found many errors"
"Sadly, Colebatch appears not to have attempted to check any of the stories he was told, but has simply replicated them and on that basis constructed a narrative of Australia in the Second World War in which 'the unions' 'sabotaged' 'the war effort'. He fails to test any of his examples against available primary sources, either public - such as newspapers which are available thanks to the National Library's 'Trove' data base - or government or union archives. This does not prevent him from condemning 'unions' as a whole: a stance that explains the way conservative columnists have embraced his book."
Im not defending or condemning but pointing out that a book which classes itself as historical fact shouldnt display so many obvious factual errors.
Such a polarizing subject is never going get a definitive history written by either side
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yeah I agree.
Pretty good reference list in the notes section quoting newspaper articles, dates, interviews with senior army staff of the day etc. Ps Colebatch spent a few years as a solicitor for the union movement.
Edit:Pps I wouldnt exactly expect 'the drum' or 'crikey' to be an objective source either!
Mike Carlton is pissed because Colebatch called him out for his book skipping over the facts.
Check this one out and the comments -
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/collected_anti_colebatch_arguments/
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I just read a fair few of those reviews
As you said polarizing subject, for the record I have read a few of Peter Stanley's books and enjoyed them but for him to call out Colebatch on interviews with vets in their 80's is pretty shit. Imagine if Speilberg and Tom Hanks had said the same about Stephen Ambrose's 'Band of Brothers'. I have a cd with 13 1/2 hour audio interviews with my grandad who is now 98 and John Bannister from the imperial war museum, London, detailing his service history at Tobruk, El alamein, Syria, Malaya etc. Do I throw it out as its all from the soldiers perspective or take it verbatim? Or read as widely as possible including their regimental official history, several books about Rommel and war histories from both sides.
I agree not condoning or defending, but if 10% of Colebatch's book is truth then its pretty shocking.
Definately not having a go Rob, I read a few books a week on avg, appreciate the debate.
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Haha well thats backfired on
Haha well thats backfired on you Pete
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So was this thread just a
So was this thread just a thinly veiled brag at how awesome you are?
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Geez Pete, helping Rio out
Geez Pete, helping Rio out with a positioner/indication feedback signal is pretty impressive. I bet you would have been King of the Kids at Rio.
Im slowly coming to the conclusion that you're probably the reason so many people are getting layed off at Rio - 1 call to old Pete = reduntant workforce! Now thats not very 'Union' now is it!
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ps, Im just taking the Piss Pete, no need to PM me....again
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Have you been drinking
Pete I'm sure you must be drinking when you post shit on this site coz it is utter dribble
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Marble, would you clean the
Marble, would you clean the 'workers' toilets for less pay to help the big multinational company get thru the tough times? Unions are good and bad. Seems that the mining side of unions may have gone overboard but it still does some good for the lowly paid factory workers in perth.
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