fishing rrights
Submitted by petermac on Sat, 2015-03-21 20:56
my great grand mum was born in Boulder WA and was a proud aboriginal women (peggy two sticks was her name ) does this mean if I want to I can use all the fishing rights indiginous people have , I have never thought about it before
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fark me....... do you even
fark me....... do you even fish?
petermac
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whats your problem
yes I fish probably more than you its not a bullshit question its a question that needs to be answered as I would like the answer
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you fish more then me but
you fish more then me but continually post this sort of shit instead of catch reports. use your bloody phone and get a real answer instead of asking guys hidding behind screens on a fishing website.
Lastchance
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BaBang!
BaBang!
JohnF
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hahaha
hahaha
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
carnarvonite
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Recognised
You have to be recognised in the community as an aboriginal and have proof of your heritage to be able to claim fishing rights.
Tradition methods are supposed to be used but when I spotted a couple of dark skinned chaps running a net out in closed waters and rang the local Fisheries inspector, he asked what colour they were and when told said to forget about complaining even though they were using a monofilament net---hardly traditional methods, he said he had brought the same charge to court in Hedland and it got thrown out of court, once bitten twice shy after that.
petermac
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thanks mate
over the last 20 years I have spent short periods of times at the station my old man runs , yes it is a way you feel
sarcasm0
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It is a way you feel?
So, you only have thought about declaring yourself indigenous because of fishing rights, at what 50-60? If it was a way you feel, surely you would have taken every opportunity to loudly and proudly proclaim your indigenous status for the last 50-60 years or as long as you have known. Or was it just not so convenient.
Seriously good job here to degrade the whole conversation of indigenous identity status, by doing it for apparently no other reason than you like turtle and dugong meat.
carnarvonite
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Turtle meat
Have tried turtle meat and have one question to ask. If it is so good and raved about then why do they curry it?
Was not impressed with it and wouldn't go out of my way to eat it again.
My children are classed as aboriginal and you won't see them claiming free fishing licences or taking advantage of "traditional" methods in closed waters or being allowed to take extra or undersize fish because of it.
sarcasm0
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not quite sure if this is directed at me?
I don't have any issue with liking or not liking turtle meat.
Third line - I understand John, but my point was directed at Peter, I was trying to say if 'it is a way you feel' about your indigenous status then you feel its 100%, not just because you want to eat more turtle or dugong. If your children are aboriginal and choose not: to claim free fishing licences, take advantage of 'traditional' methods in closed waters or take U/Size fish, that is great. I wish more people would realise we all live here and that by giving one section of the community extra priveledges and denying the rest of the community is the definition of discrimination. Part of the reason why I wont support constitutional recognition of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islanders if it ever comes to a referendum unless they are going to 'recognise' Brits, Irish, Scots, French, Italians, Dutch, Portruguese, South Africans, Indians, Malayans.....etc.
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You're good
Not directed at you, just wonder why someone would go out of their way to eat them.
When Captain Cook sailed in to Botany Bay some coupe of hundred years ago the locals were sitting under a tree with their spears etc and if white man didn't come along they would still be there doing the same thing now yet they expect everything dished up to them on a plate without having to go and earn it like everyone else bar a small percentage who actually do some good for the community
Lastchance
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Spot on mate
Spot on mate
scottland
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Thats narrow minded
theres just as many white people on the dole and stealing your shit for there next hit. your comment is as stupid as this thread
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
Lastchance
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Who said anything about
Who said anything about stealing? Interesting mindset to default to wouldnt you agree?
scottland
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Ok
if your going to knit pick i retract the word stealing but my point still stands
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
sarcasm0
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hehehe
hehehe
petermac
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the reson i ask
I am partial to a bit of turtle and dugong
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Don't even have to look at the calendar....
...here on fishwrecked you can tell it's the weekend by petermac's posts.
Mate, if you can get a dugong out the front of Bent st boat ramp, I reckon fisheries should throw out the rule book and give you an 'A' for effort!
Tim
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Not likely
The answer is not likely Peter.
The blood line bit is only part of the answer and just because you have an aboriginal relative you do not automatically get to fish to their rules.
There is a three-part definition of Aboriginal identity that you would have to meet first. See below examples I cut from the web for you
•Descent: “I am a descendant of the Ngunnawal Nation from the South Slopes and Southern Tablelands of NSW”.
•Identification: “I am an Aboriginal person and a proud descendent of the Biripi people of Taree and I proudly identify as an Aboriginal person”.
•Community: “I am known as an Aboriginal person within the Aboriginal community of Yass, where my father was born and in the Chippendale/Redfern areas of Sydney where I grew up and in Earlwood where I now live”.
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Not so sure
I dont think you actually have to meet all 3 of those Tim
About 15 years ago my family found out, with some relative doing an extensive family tree, that i have an aboriginal anscestor.
Thinking that this might help with the cost of my childrens Uni expences i looked into it. If it can be proven i have aboriginal Descent then their education expense would be greatly covered.
Turns out that one of my relo's in the east did this and is now recognized as aboriginal. So if i wanted to i could use this myself.
Also turns out that the rules have changed and educational expenses are means tested to the parents so no advantage there now for my family. Just as my kids get to Uni age..Lol
At the end of the day, do you really want more than what you have with the current fish limits?
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Popcorn anyone??
Popcorn anyone??
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Fark the popcorn
Anyone got any tramadol
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Ha ha ha I've got good
Ha ha ha I've got good bourbon
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I have heard that if you go
I have heard that if you go into fisheries and declare yourself Aboriginal they are instructed not to dispute it.
Take your boomerang in and have a go Pete
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Pete, I don't know you mate
Pete, I don't know you mate but are you taking the piss?, reason I ask is that I'm not the best with geography but correct me if I'm wrong, you claim to be a descendent of an aboriginal woman from Boulder?, do they even have salt water there to get turtles and dugong?
uncle
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Fark me
Is this the usual weekend piss dribble
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Sea-weed
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What would your aboriginal
What would your aboriginal name be Peter? Would it follow the line of your ancestor (Peggy two sticks) and be Peter two dicks?
uncle
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Ha ha
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
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peternarkle-picket-colbung
Jeeeeeeezarz pete...
youve seriously got some issues with mixing your prescription pain killers with booze mate. There cant be any other excuse for actually writing this shit.
I suppose it does explain a lot though...
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petermac threw a grenade and
petermac threw a grenade and killed 50 people, then it exploded.
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gold
Gold
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Round to Pete's
Round to Pete's for some turtle kebabs and dugong burgers on the bbq!
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I've gotta say Pete you put
I've gotta say Pete you put some doozies out there but this utter crap takes the cake. You now want to be aboriginal? I think Scotto's right your mixing up your meds and alchohol too much. Think about it mate before you post such inane shite on the site. If you really want dugong or turtle or lizards steaks head north and live with them you don't have to come on here and dribble. I can't believe I'm responding to this thread but this is just so wrong, and one more point if you are what you believe to be then you disrespect the race by even mentioning it on here and you would have campaigned your heritage years ago as Sarcasmo says. You must be so bored. Please don't PM me.
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here here,enough of the crap
here here,
enough of the crap pete, show us some fish post, better yet give the blokes that do post a thumbs up at least. cant recall the last time you commented on a fish report saying well done.
scottland
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Touchy subject
My grandad was half aboriginal dads mum is white so that makes him a 1/4 and my mums white so that makes me an 1/8th. But i still get to tick the yes to aboriginal box on paperwork. Even to the point my boss get subsidies for having an aboriginal apprentice. You can quiet literally get a certificate of authenticity. Mum went to centerlink to get this certificate and asked how far does it go before they are not classed as aboriginal and she got absoloutly blasted
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
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Dugong aren’t they slow
Dugong aren’t they slow growing and endangered ? .. turtle you’d have to be hard up for a feed , where’s the meat just in the legs and fins . I had some croc awhile back that was like chewing on tough steak think I’d give it a miss myself .
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might need to go down to herrison island
to assimulate and learn some tricks of the trade
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this came up when i googled you peterkickett
Im sure thats you in the red hat aye?
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=576_1426401541
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I thought I just heard
I thought I just heard Petermac's name on the radio up here, turns out Id misheard and it was a Burst Watermain.
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All harmless fun, jeez I get
All harmless fun, jeez I get good laugh out of his posts & the commentary with it.
Bit too early for a metho on ice?
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Ha ha ha never mate, having
Ha ha ha never mate, having one right now so I can make sense of it all
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Petermac you idiot
Peter Mac all I have to say is YOU IDIOT
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Who's the real idiot?
Him? Or us for responding to it! Although I've gotta say, it's the best amusement on here since the days of Tony Halliday and that dopey kid that wanted to go out in a storm with his dinghy...
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Agree
Have to agree, I'm in two minds about threads like these. Some times I find them amusing but mostly find them annoying and ignore them.
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Tony Haliday now there was a
Tony Haliday now there was a fuckwit .
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must be a good hangover, bo
must be a good hangover, no reply all day
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My grandmother was Indian, not 2 dogs type Indian, but Bombay type Indian, her father was a British major who was posted there when she was born, so I wonder what that makes me?
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kind of lookin like Petes
kind of lookin like Petes gone walkabout
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The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
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scotto classic
Hahaha
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Peter you are a legion
I love your shit....its always a good read..keep going please.. lol