Towing an over width boat

 Driving to Derby, towing a sailfish centre console.

It's 2.74 mt wide, requires a permit & overwidth banners, front & back.

In the photo attached, is this legal?

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 In short.No the sign should

Sun, 2017-03-19 20:12

 In short.

No the sign should be on the front and rear of the  vehicle combination.

It should be in the oversize hand book that you get with the RAV  permit

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Apparently need flags on all

Sun, 2017-03-19 20:12

Apparently need flags on all 4 corners as well. I was gonna put my front oversize sign in the same place as yours........not sure if legal?

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 Definitely the over size

Sun, 2017-03-19 20:34

 Definitely the over size signs need to be on front of car and back of boat....

all detailed in you RAV1 permit booklet mate

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 Billy is right, you need to

Sun, 2017-03-19 20:38

 Billy is right, you need to read the RAV handbook that you are required to carry in the glovebox.

The sign needs to be at the front.

Having said that, a few years back I photo'ed the DOT guys at a roadhouse towing their patrol boat with the same sign setup.

The RAV rules are drafted for trucks but I don't think the mermaids are that strict-unless you give them a reason to be...

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Friggen hard to put the sign

Sun, 2017-03-19 21:01

Friggen hard to put the sign across the front of the car. Either no air to the radiator or can't see.....

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Split sign

Mon, 2017-03-20 10:43

I have the split soft signs for the front. That is, "Over" is on one sign, and "Size" on another. I then occy strap them either side to the bull bar. Never had a problem with cooling and headlights/spotties still OK.

For the back, I have a single Over Size hard sign that I've made up into a frame that slots into my rear bait board position. Again, works perfectly.

I'm heading to Shelter Bay in April, so I'll take a photo of the set-up.

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 .Go the Hundred series....:)

Sun, 2017-03-19 21:34

 .Go the Hundred series....:)

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 The law was written with

Sun, 2017-03-19 21:53

 The law was written with trucks in mind.

As long as you carry the permit and have the operating conditions with you

and the sign is clearly visible from the front you shouldn't have an issue as it is not practical to put the sign

On the front of the tow vehicle. 

But they don't call the inspectors mermaids for no reason. And they

Are having their annual austrans blitz at the moment.

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Bit hard to put a sign on the front of a car

Mon, 2017-03-20 06:15

 You are either covering your windscreen, radiator, or numberplate   Take your pick.

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Roof rack?

Mon, 2017-03-20 10:57

Seems the simple option. It's where all the pilots lv's mount their signs.

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 I put mine on the roof rack

Tue, 2017-03-21 17:08

 I put mine on the roof rack and have not had any problems as its as forward as practical and i have a sticker on the back of the boat cut in half

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 Id be more concerned ablut

Tue, 2017-03-21 19:43

 Id be more concerned ablut the overloaded 100 series towing that 26ft glass boat.

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Yep

Fri, 2017-03-24 08:25

....exactly what I was thinking....

I put my Haines 800 Patriot over a calibrated weighbridge when I bought it, and if I fully loaded for a Kimberley trip, it would be over the 3.5T towing with gear and stuff, excluding food and water, as the tanks are very rarely "empty"

 

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Could be wrong here

Thu, 2017-03-23 13:28

But my understanding is that you can and should have the oversize load sign on the front and back of the boat as this is what is "oversize"

You will require 4 flags as others have stated.

Check your weights as with that load and the boat and people you will be marginal to say the least. If you are over, good bye insurance on the boat and car in the unlikely event of a crash.

 

You can hire a cheap truck  to tow it up (its pretty reasonably priced for a few weeks if you have a mate with a MR or HR licence) save yourself the stress and you are legal. Just need your permit to reflect the tow vehicle

 

If you have a head wind good luck you will need a tanker next to you

 

Good luck

 

 

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Nope

Thu, 2017-03-23 16:43

The regulations state front and rear of the vehicle, except where towing an oversize load, in which case the rear sign is on the rear of the load  

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 Belly is right. As it's

Fri, 2017-03-24 17:52

 Belly is right. As it's connected together it becomes a combination.

Another lesser known rules relates to a convoy as above, two oversized loads must not travel in convoy.

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 I've got a roof rack similar

Fri, 2017-03-24 21:20

 I've got a roof rack similar to the one on the right and its pretty easy to tie the sign on the front of that angle. Doesn't help with aerodynamics but neither does the boat.