Trouble with the big fellas -- Knot
After listening to all the shark stuff down south tried on a very blustery day up here in Dampier to have some shark fun. Metal trace with 9/0 Hook through the head and tail of a flag filleted. Certainly a nice take and fight, but I am sure despite the culprit heading for the reef it was a Noah. Now I am very lazy, but tie in the 50lb braid a modified Palomar to the swivel. It is 3 loops through the swivel, and a figure 8 double knot rather than a wrapped over granny to complete (with a sh*t load of slober to lube). I believe in this but the feeling that followed was not grind vs reef, it was pure "ping", and I am sure the braid didnt just pop. I am to lazy for Noah's to tie a Bimini/GT etc but somehow my mod Palomar failed IMO. Any suggestion as I am going to catch this particular shark that I have seen at least 3 times hounding one of my favourite "sure to catch" a feed spot. Neels
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hlokk
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GT knot. You'll only need to
GT knot. You'll only need to tie it once if you dont get pinged off by reef ;)
If going via a swivel - bimini to multiple cats paw.
Alan James
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Bimimi to uni
would be a better option if going via a swivel.
hlokk
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If you have a bimini, and
If you have a bimini, and you're attaching to a swivel, why bother doing a knot that isnt as strong and takes longer to tie?
Alan James
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Because if one of the strands
of the bimimi breaks the cats paw knot will more than likely unravel. If one strands of the bimimi breaks with a uni you are still in with a chance.
Feral
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wouldnt it be easier to put
wouldnt it be easier to put on a mono leader still and just crimp on the swivel ?
dont be so lazy Neels :)
your gear is only as good as the weakest link .. if you use a shit knot then only target shit fish .. if you want to tangle with the big boys then do it properly or your just wasting your time. JMO :)
crasny1
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I hear you Feral and others
My problem is always trying to get back fishing as fast as I can. Over the years my modified Palomar has never slipped. The basic loops through the Palomar with 3 wraps is well known, the other part of the knot is complicated but tought to me by a surgeon mate, but I can tie it fast. It is easier to say its like a figure 8 knot but something a little more solid that surgeons use to hold our guts together, then loop the last loop over the swivel like a normal Palomar.
I have tested it with weights and it doesn't "normally" slip, but in this case I wasnt sure. It rated similar to a Bimini and 12catspaw.
I only use the best swivels, leader, and I dont mind the Finns braid.
But obviously if I want the standup tackle with a big fella I might have to tie the Bimini GT and stop being so fast to get back in fishing!!!!!
I do normally tie the Bimini's at home anyway, and I go out with at least 5 rods each all loaded for different uses, but I like strong snaps so I can quickly change terminal setup. That would say I can very quickly turn the troll rigs into bottom bouncers, because the trolling will double.
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