Western Rock Lobster future stocks

Western Rock Lobster future stocks

Seems there was lots of interesting info covered in the workshop held more than a year ago but only reported in a recent doc dated 8 August 2008 "Western Rock Lobster Stock Assessment and Harvest Strategy - Workshop report" from http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/op/op050/index.php?0706

Specially considering the ZERO settlement of WRL puerulus recorded at 4 separate sites for May, June, July AND August 2008 - see http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/PuerulusSettlement/index.php?0405

Will be interesting to see if those graphs get off those zero lines in later months.

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Mon, 2008-09-15 17:19

 In plain english what are you talking about?? don't understand all this gobblie gogg about zero crays

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See the pink line? See how

Mon, 2008-09-15 17:48

See the pink line? See how it it has spikes on it? Notice there is no spike on the right hand side of the graph and its near zero?



Crays look pretty boom-bust, but that cycle is now bust-bust.

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Tue, 2008-09-16 07:20

 It seems that what ever fun that doesn't cost a arm and a leg (well you know what I mean boats ha!) we the working class, seem to kicked in the guts all the time, we've also heard a whisper that the cray limit is going to be cut, what bloody next, cut the boat quota down, only allowed a boat for say 3 years then you have to sell it, unbelieveable.

 

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Who owns those Crayfish WRL?

Tue, 2008-09-16 08:45

Western Rock Lobster management is a very complex topic where there is ALWAYS a great deal going on but not very much recent and definitive decisions or stuff has been released to the public. Most of the info on the Fisheries website is at best a couple of years old.



The commercial WRL industry takes around 95% of the WRL catch, so that industry has to bear most of the management cuts which are necessary for sustainability - that's the reality and simple maths.



The commercial fishing industry is also facing major changes due to rapidly increasing operating costs on top of the declining WRL stocks.



See the letters on pages 4, 5 and 6 of "Prowest" May June 2008 http://www.wafic.com.au/images/wafic-15--thohl.pdf



And read that "Western Rock Lobster Stock Assessment and Harvest Strategy - Workshop report" http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/op/op050/index.php?0706 for lots of information.



No, they don't answer the questions or accusations that recreational bag limit reductions are coming.



Who owns those Western Rock Lobsters? The people of WA do. Allowing commercial exploitation of 95% of them is a Government decision, not Recfishwest's.



Is that the right decision? See http://fishwrecked.com/node/15956 What now for recreational fishing?



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Personally Terry

Wed, 2008-09-17 07:01

 Think there are too many pots in the water (pro's) Been to Leeman start of the whites and couldn't believe the pros, they where on top of each other (in shore) getting the whites before they walked, counted 35 boats on anchor afterwards, that to me was absolute greed, I know they have to make a living, apparently their lines were inter twinded with each others pots, took them longer to untangle than retrieve their crays, then when the whites walked off they went. Left the ametuer with nothing to catch inshore. unbelieveable.

 

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Pro Friends

Tue, 2008-09-16 21:18

Had a interesting conversation two weekends ago with a older gentlemen at a kids party....he has been crayfishing 50 pots for a living for 30+ years.....the discussion got to fishing - straight up he brought out the fact that the future was grim......

He felt that there had to be a commercial closure for 5 years to let things recover .....

 he even acknowleged the commercials have had the last decade pretty good ....all live in a great house....have comfortable boats.....are now even buy the grand kids brand new cars.....

enough is enough ....from the horses mouth

 

then we drank ouzo

 

 

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Quota

Wed, 2008-09-17 12:36

It's been talked about for sometime and used successfully in South Australia. Bring in a yearly quota for the Pros. This way they can manage the maximum catch each year and the Cray guys don't have to fish everyday. As for Rec Crayfishing , the small amount rec's take has very little if any effect on the sustainability of the Cray fishery.

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Crayfish / Rock Lobster future

Wed, 2008-09-24 08:47

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=99338



Quote:
WA’s $300m lobster industry facing disaster as numbers fall



The State’s $300 million western rock lobster fishery is on the verge of crisis with official monitoring revealing there are almost no baby lobsters in prime fishing locations....



The results have stunned WA’s lucrative lobster fishing industry, which warned yesterday that unless there was a dramatic turnaround in the numbers in the next four months, the 2011-2012 season would be a total disaster.



Department researchers have no idea what has caused the alarming findings and are investigating whether climate change or over-fishing is to blame or if the larvae have settled outside their usual areas....



Other alarming survey results mean below-average catches are expected in coming seasons, with the department forecasting the amount of lobster available to be caught in 2010-11 will fall to 7200 tonnes, the smallest in 40 years and well below the annual average of 11,000 tonnes.




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Lets go crabing instead

Wed, 2008-09-24 09:14

Lets go crabing instead guys!

OH sorry about that I forgot the Pros took them all to the market!!!!!

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The days off making big

Wed, 2008-09-24 18:53

The days off making big dollars are over unless you own your boat outright. a lot of guys lease and they are struggling to make a living . there are some who have done well and own 10 boats now they are the greedy ones.

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If you lease or own 100 pots

Wed, 2008-09-24 19:18

If you lease or own 100 pots you can fish 82 pots there is to be a further 10% reduction ,so another 10% from your 82 pots brings you down to 74 pots So you lease 100 pots at $1400 per pot and you can only fish 74 thats a lose off $36,000 and you haven't put a pot in the water yet.

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Maybe they should have put

Wed, 2008-09-24 19:32

Maybe they should have put some $ into Oil and Gas and minerals??????

But they continue to push $ into their own field with their underpining knowlegde of their own quota's?

Sorry Paul but the other half of the family has an invested interest in making a buck out of the red rock spider and my half loves it as a touch and go Rec bit of fun...

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Not sure what your sorry

Wed, 2008-09-24 19:59

Not sure what your sorry about, but i to love to pull pots and get a feed its the only time i can get the wife on the boat ,.

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And you can add AND September.

Fri, 2008-10-10 17:40

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Specially considering the ZERO settlement of WRL puerulus recorded at 4 separate sites for May, June, July AND August 2008


And you can add AND September.



The first post in this thread links to the graphs on the Dept of Fisheries website which have been updated with the September results.



The Rat Island number might have struggled off the zero line, but if it has, it's only a 1 compared to a 10-year-average of about 10.



And the Seven Mile and Jurien numbers might have struggled off the zero line, but if they have, they are only a 1 compared to a 10-year-average of nearly 50.



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Some of you are Rock Lobster

Fri, 2008-10-10 17:41

Some of you are Rock Lobster stakeholders, and this is addressed to stakeholders. I haven't found a link to this on the Dept of Fisheries website (but I've been busy....)



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Notes Regarding Latest Puerulus Settlement



Dear Stakeholder



The puerulus settlement during the 2007/08 West Coast Rock Lobster season was the second lowest in the 40 year time series of puerulus collections at Dongara and Jurien. This poor settlement is expected to result in a rock lobster catch of about 7,200 tonnes in the 2010/11 season. The previous lowest puerulus settlement recorded in 1969/70 resulted in a catch of 7,300 tonnes in the 1972/73 season.



While the predicted catches for the 2008/09 and the 2009/10 seasons are expected to be about 8,200 tonnes (after taking into account the recently announced management changes), they will also remain well below the 10-year average of 11,046 tonnes.



The poor puerulus settlement observed during the 2007/08 season is continuing in the settlement period for 2008/09, which began in July. However, unlike the last settlement period, there were some favourable environmental conditions observed in early 2008 (strong Leeuwin Current) that were expected to have given rise to an improved puerulus settlement in 2008/09. Although some environmental conditions observed during this period, such as westerly winds, were not favourable.



While the peak months for puerulus settlement are August to December, it is now likely that the settlement for this season will again be well below average. Further information on the current lobster settlement index can be found of the Department's website by following the link from the front page (www.fish.wa.qov.au) under the "What's new..." heading.



It should be noted that the current overall breeding stock estimates are above the threshold levels and that the management settings already announced for the 2008/09 season will address the low puerulus settlement in 2007/08. However, in light of the recent low puerulus settlement the Department of Fisheries will be reviewing its methodology for estimating the breeding stock.



In addition, the Department of Fisheries has also instigated a process for reviewing research and management priorities, in consultation with the respective Chairs of the Western Rock Lobster Council and the Rock Lobster Industry Advisory Committee (RLIAC).



Some of the key outcomes of this process so far include:



1. further development and review of the biological model to take into account factors such as efficiency increases and climate change effects;



2.  submit a project proposal with CSIRO for funding to the Fisheries Research and Development Corporation relating to oceanographic modelling to assist in evaluating the effect of breeding stock in different regions and environmental factors on puerulus settlement;



3. expand the current juvenile abundance sampling program to evaluate settlement in shallow and deep water;



4. conduct a research risk assessment workshop on factors affecting puerulus settlement; and



5. assess the fishing effort required to achieve the maximum economic yield for the fishery.



Should this process identify a need for additional targeted effort reductions to further protect breeding stock levels within the 2008/09 season in response to the continued low puerulus settlement it is unlikely that they would include further pot reductions.



Further information on the latest puerulus settlement figures and future management directions will be discussed at the coastal tour. The coastal tour meetings will be held on 28 October in Geraldton, and 30 October in Fremantle. For further information please contact Clinton Syers (Management) or Simon de Lestang (Research).



CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, 24 September 2008




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