Western Rock Lobster future stocks
Submitted by TerryF on Mon, 2008-09-15 16:33
Western Rock Lobster future stocks
Seems there was lots of interesting info covered in the workshop held more than a year ago but only reported in a recent doc dated 8 August 2008 "Western Rock Lobster Stock Assessment and Harvest Strategy - Workshop report" from http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/op/op050/index.php?0706
Specially considering the ZERO settlement of WRL puerulus recorded at 4 separate sites for May, June, July AND August 2008 - see http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/PuerulusSettlement/index.php?0405
Will be interesting to see if those graphs get off those zero lines in later months.
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Terry
In plain english what are you talking about?? don't understand all this gobblie gogg about zero crays
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See the pink line? See how
See the pink line? See how it it has spikes on it? Notice there is no spike on the right hand side of the graph and its near zero?
Crays look pretty boom-bust, but that cycle is now bust-bust.
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It seems that what ever fun that doesn't cost a arm and a leg (well you know what I mean boats ha!) we the working class, seem to kicked in the guts all the time, we've also heard a whisper that the cray limit is going to be cut, what bloody next, cut the boat quota down, only allowed a boat for say 3 years then you have to sell it, unbelieveable.
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Who owns those Crayfish WRL?
Western Rock Lobster management is a very complex topic where there is ALWAYS a great deal going on but not very much recent and definitive decisions or stuff has been released to the public. Most of the info on the Fisheries website is at best a couple of years old.
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The commercial WRL industry takes around 95% of the WRL catch, so that industry has to bear most of the management cuts which are necessary for sustainability - that's the reality and simple maths.
The commercial fishing industry is also facing major changes due to rapidly increasing operating costs on top of the declining WRL stocks.
See the letters on pages 4, 5 and 6 of "Prowest" May June 2008 http://www.wafic.com.au/images/wafic-15--thohl.pdf
And read that "Western Rock Lobster Stock Assessment and Harvest Strategy - Workshop report" http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/op/op050/index.php?0706 for lots of information.
No, they don't answer the questions or accusations that recreational bag limit reductions are coming.
Who owns those Western Rock Lobsters? The people of WA do. Allowing commercial exploitation of 95% of them is a Government decision, not Recfishwest's.
Is that the right decision? See http://fishwrecked.com/node/15956 What now for recreational fishing?
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Personally Terry
Think there are too many pots in the water (pro's) Been to Leeman start of the whites and couldn't believe the pros, they where on top of each other (in shore) getting the whites before they walked, counted 35 boats on anchor afterwards, that to me was absolute greed, I know they have to make a living, apparently their lines were inter twinded with each others pots, took them longer to untangle than retrieve their crays, then when the whites walked off they went. Left the ametuer with nothing to catch inshore. unbelieveable.
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Pro Friends
Had a interesting conversation two weekends ago with a older gentlemen at a kids party....he has been crayfishing 50 pots for a living for 30+ years.....the discussion got to fishing - straight up he brought out the fact that the future was grim......
He felt that there had to be a commercial closure for 5 years to let things recover .....
he even acknowleged the commercials have had the last decade pretty good ....all live in a great house....have comfortable boats.....are now even buy the grand kids brand new cars.....
enough is enough ....from the horses mouth
then we drank ouzo
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Crayfish / Rock Lobster future
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Lets go crabing instead
Lets go crabing instead guys!
OH sorry about that I forgot the Pros took them all to the market!!!!!
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The days off making big
The days off making big dollars are over unless you own your boat outright. a lot of guys lease and they are struggling to make a living . there are some who have done well and own 10 boats now they are the greedy ones.
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If you lease or own 100 pots
If you lease or own 100 pots you can fish 82 pots there is to be a further 10% reduction ,so another 10% from your 82 pots brings you down to 74 pots So you lease 100 pots at $1400 per pot and you can only fish 74 thats a lose off $36,000 and you haven't put a pot in the water yet.
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Maybe they should have put
Maybe they should have put some $ into Oil and Gas and minerals??????
But they continue to push $ into their own field with their underpining knowlegde of their own quota's?
Sorry Paul but the other half of the family has an invested interest in making a buck out of the red rock spider and my half loves it as a touch and go Rec bit of fun...
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Not sure what your sorry
Not sure what your sorry about, but i to love to pull pots and get a feed its the only time i can get the wife on the boat ,.
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And you can add AND September.
And you can add AND September.
The first post in this thread links to the graphs on the Dept of Fisheries website which have been updated with the September results.
The Rat Island number might have struggled off the zero line, but if it has, it's only a 1 compared to a 10-year-average of about 10.
And the Seven Mile and Jurien numbers might have struggled off the zero line, but if they have, they are only a 1 compared to a 10-year-average of nearly 50.
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Some of you are Rock Lobster
Some of you are Rock Lobster stakeholders, and this is addressed to stakeholders. I haven't found a link to this on the Dept of Fisheries website (but I've been busy....)
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