What pound mono for rigging up tuna and dollie lures?

Sitting here rigging up some jet heads and hockzheads for dollies and tuna, doing them in 150lb and 200lb, thinking of going heavier what do fellas think.


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from memory i have been told

Mon, 2010-04-05 13:49

from memory i have been told you wouldnt need to go heavier unless you were going after the billies with the same rigs

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Hey frank , that weight

Mon, 2010-04-05 14:30

Hey frank , that weight leader is fine for those lures(would go the 150lb) and will handle the smaller billies as well, on the bigger lures like the oscars etc, i run 200-300lb.

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Cheers

Mon, 2010-04-05 14:55

Fellas, hey Matty are you still doing some night trolling?

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night fishing yeah, not

Mon, 2010-04-05 14:58

night fishing yeah, not trolling as such as soaking squiddy baits for the other pointy ended billfish, if we get some nice nights definately will give it a go

 

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Sounds good

Mon, 2010-04-05 15:06

Let me know if you need another boat out with ya, I might have a go at some night Reds.

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I'd go lighter

Mon, 2010-04-05 17:09

If as you say you a targetting dollies and tuna I don't know why you would use leader greater than 80lb.  Neither of these species will damage the leader so why go heavy, plus the lighter you go the more hits you will get.

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i'm assuming frank your

Mon, 2010-04-05 17:17

i'm assuming frank your rigging these lures for exmouth? thats why i reffered the heavier weights as you do get your sailes and billies in the same area at times, down here in perth yeah you can get away with the lighter leaders

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Spot on Matty

Mon, 2010-04-05 20:28

Yes it's Exxy, we will be targeting tuna when we see the "balls", no we will not be ruuning these in perth.

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Perth or Exmouth is the big

Mon, 2010-04-05 17:42

Perth or Exmouth is the big question :)

Perth, 80lb is oodles.

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Note the leader size

Mon, 2010-04-05 17:55

From another website.

Capt Mark of the Canyon Runner called from the boat that Greg (Maximum Anchorage) brought 550-600 lbs giant SBT using 450 Black Hole Cape Cod Special jigging rod/JM PE8 reel filled with Varivas Avani using 32 lbs drag after fought 4 hour 15 minutes today !!!

The leader line is 100 lbs Black Watch fluorocarbon and jig used is Labo 230SL.

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100lb is

Mon, 2010-04-05 19:07

a happy medium in say ande. go 150lb for jinkai or the like. IMO

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Dollies don't have much for

Mon, 2010-04-05 19:31

Dollies don't have much for teeth, 100 to 150lb is overkill.

I seriously doubt Greg from 360 tuna caught a SBT, wrong hemisphere ;p

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In Exmouth

Mon, 2010-04-05 19:41

you could live to regret 100lb leader on any Jetheads you drag around behind the boat , 150 minimum , sails and small bills can make a mess of a leader in a very short space of time and they love those small jetheads .

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Leader size

Mon, 2010-04-05 20:36

Jmo but I think even in places like Exmouth there appears to be this perception that heavy leaders are required for billies.  In Gamex 2010 just gone I understand that approx 480 billfish were tagged between the estimated weights of 10kg and 160kg.  I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that Exmouth has a reputation for the average billy being <50kg (depending on the time of year).  The question is then why the heavy leaders?  Fish these size simply don't require the use of heavy leaders.  If you are targetting blues then that's different matter entirely as are T&R competitions when the shortest fight times are desirable.  jmo.

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Line class?

Mon, 2010-04-05 20:21

In my understanding I thought that the size of the leader is there for the abrasion on the fight like bottom bouncing?

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Line Class

Mon, 2010-04-05 21:57

Correct but the strength of the leader has nothing to do with line class.  To comply with GFAA or IGFA there are limitations on the length of doubles and leaders pertaining to the various line classes.  To my knowledge there is no restriction on the strength of the leader in any line class. 

However where I am coming from is that if the duration of the fight is not anticipated to be of any significant duration (small billfish) then the "lighter" leader as I suggest is unlikely to wear thru.  Peter P would argue that after the hook up the leader should not come close to the bill ................. ?  Not going there.

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My Pref!

Tue, 2010-04-06 10:21

The leader is the wear-n-tear end and has to be more than suitable!

I would run 150lb as already mentioned on those lures for Exmouth and have used a Richter Skirted lure where someone rigged it up "lighter" with the understanding that should be sufice and the end result through chaffing I lost my Marlin & their lure!

Jetheads for north 135lb 49 strand! 

Local trolling ie Hockzhead & Jetheads, i'd go 60lb flurocarbon!

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Whats a good length for the

Tue, 2010-04-06 13:44

Whats a good length for the 49 strand on the jetheads? (presumably its to stop marauding mackerel? or good for billies too?)

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yep!

Tue, 2010-04-06 14:07

Correct, for hoo & macs, approx 500mm of 49strand and a wind-on leader to that!

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Ryan

Tue, 2010-04-06 14:12

What connection do you recommend between the 49 strand and the windon.

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Okay

Tue, 2010-04-06 14:23

Cheers for info boys it is a big help.

I was nearly on the last marlin lure (to rig) when a mate from Exxy turned up and informed me that some blokes run a 15 ft leader on their lures in case the fish tails the line what are your thoughts on this Ryan.