Baldie

Baldie

Last fish of the day.


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Nice one

Mon, 2007-11-05 05:54

That colour suits you Tim, you should catch it more often.
Sound like you two had a fun day all round, well done.

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descent!

Mon, 2007-11-05 09:08

Descent fish mate, i do rate my Baldchin.....could of put his stomach back in...hehehe!

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MMMMMMM my favorite feed of

Mon, 2007-11-05 10:28

MMMMMMM my favorite feed of fish! well done timbo. Bluddy great size to!.......Drift baiting Tim?

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Yeah

Mon, 2007-11-05 10:32

Yeah on a drift bait. Just couldnt be bothered rigging up a standard bottom rig yesterday.

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Ive found that i pick up way

Mon, 2007-11-05 10:36

Ive found that i pick up way more bauldies drift baiting than bottom rigs! Dont know why but they love that offering right on the ocean floor for some reason...thats a fine fish mate.

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for me!

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:01

Driftbaiting has produced more big snapper, dhufish, baldy's and blue spot flathead than my patternoster rigs....very noticeable!

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Not So

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:05

Not So yesterday Ryan. Andys bottom rig was working well. Fish seemed to be right on the bottom and not willing to move up.

Even when Jigging the best results where when I worked the jig basically on the bottom with the rod only and no retrieve. If it came up too high you got nothing. 

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variables!

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:35

That's what i like about fishing, so many variables. For me, the last few trips in particular the d/baiting has cleaned up over the patternoster. As for jigs, i'm getting more fish well off the bottom........as mentioned so many variables!

I've just orderd another drift baiting combo, the exact same one so i can have a d/bait ready to go and a jig.....with the exact same outfits!

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What rod are u using for the

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:37

What rod are u using for the jigs ryan?

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"Territory" barra stick

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:39

The new Live Fibre 10kg graphite "Territory" barra stick....sweet rod, have ordered some for the shop also!

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what reel are you using on

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:40

what reel are you using on the combo ryan? 

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Fun

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:40

All part of the fun working out what you need to do on any particular day.
No fun doing the same thing day after day.

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Penn 965 baitcaster

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:41

Penn 965 baitcaster with 30lb Berkley Whiplash pro braid!

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Yeah good reels those penn

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:42

Yeah good reels those penn baitcasters!

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yeh agree!

Mon, 2007-11-05 11:44

Yeh agree Tim. As for jigging, often i try everything and if the normal way doesn't work i do the "complete opposite" to see if an action gets a reaction!


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Yeah they are sweet rods

Mon, 2007-11-05 13:14

Yeah they are sweet rods ryan i was looking at one of those the other day! But they are very simular to my t-curve 10kg stick which is what i use for the light jigs now.......teamed up to a calcutta 400b.....very nice little outfit to use up to 120gm jiggs. Im running 20lb over mine at the moment and havent had a drama yet to go into a heavier line class. 7kg bauldie at abrolhos i got was on this combo and man that is fun......love the bigger pnikies on it as well!

Have you tried the sea rocks in the 90 and 120gm size? The red head one , well let me say that the pinkies run all over it for a taste. Same as the 120gm sea rock it orange, they love that to. One jig which i think has been developed expecially for this type of fishing (ive only got pnikies on it so far!) is the sacrifice leaf from diawa. Little bit expensive but it has a nice slow action when jigged ans after reading the write up on them they were desighned to catch dhuies! So they are also worth looking into to :) JMO

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drift baiting rig?

Mon, 2007-11-05 13:46

what size sinker are u using on your d/baiting rigs tim?
also are u just snelling 2 occy hooks around the 5/0-6/0 size?

good baldie by the way mate.


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3oz Bean

Mon, 2007-11-05 13:50

Pretty sure they were the 3oz beans Sam.
Hooks were smaller than that. Used 2 rigs - first with snelled 4/0 size circles but was dropping fish so went to the snelled 4/0 Hoodlums for better results.

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I use 5 and 6/0 mustards and

Mon, 2007-11-05 13:59

I use 5 and 6/0 mustards and 3, 4 and 5 bean sinkers for best results. I had the same dramas as tim with circles as there hard to get a hook up and hard tp get the bait on sweetly. i also flash it up with some lumo beads etc. If using mulies rig them head down! This also inproved my hook ups emensly as they nail the offering head first everytime. 60lb leader min as well. Cheers Chris.

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I use 8/0 gama occy hooks,

Mon, 2007-11-05 14:03

I use 8/0 gama occy hooks, circle hooks seem to have poor hook up rate on that rig for me aswell.

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I bounced around like a ride

Mon, 2007-11-05 14:37

I bounced around like a ride at a kids party yesterday for little joy at all. Even though the sounder was telling me there was someone home at most addresses. Can someone direct me to where i can see a typical drift bait set up (diagram). Never done any more than hang an unwieghted Mulie out the back.  Got to give this drift baiting a go.

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my driftbait rig!

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Thanks very much Ryan can't

Mon, 2007-11-05 15:15

Thanks very much Ryan can't ask for much better than that. I will give it a go and hopefully have a bit more luck.

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no probs!

Mon, 2007-11-05 15:27

No probs Craig, that picture was from my Western Angler feature article on 'Driftbaiting". You can get back issues of it, it was the June/July 2007 and i went through everything about driftbaiting.

I use 2 by 6/0 Mustad big red suicide hooks and have them snelled onto (70-90cm approx) of 80lb Jinkai "plus" which is a new harder trace line. I use a #5 bean sinker (max #6) and have that right onto the hooks but have a crimp approx 8 inches up from the hooks to stop the sinker from travelling up to my swivel (#4 ballbearing swivel)

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Yeah thats a good pic

Mon, 2007-11-05 15:29

Yeah thats a good pic ryan....same same but different! :) Top photo.

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Good stuff!

Mon, 2007-11-05 18:06

Good stuff Tim glad to see you finally bag one!


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Sweet

Mon, 2007-11-05 18:09

Great looking fish, good to see you back in action Tim. Looks like the FW hat brought some luck.. ;D

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Hey Tim it’s good to

Tue, 2007-11-06 18:11

Hey Tim it’s good to see your supporting rocky complete angler the best tackle shop south of the river. Great informative service and great prices to boot can’t rate that shop high enough beats anything south of the river i've been in !!! Nice baldy as well


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Ryan why is that whenever

Tue, 2007-11-06 18:45


Ryan why is that whenever some one puts a post up of a catch you have done it better and a better way it’s quiet frankly becoming a little irritating,, I understand you do well and you are a fountain of knowledge and other sorts but sometimes people just like to say hey look what I caught without you taking over the post of how you have done it better and a better way IMO!!!! Just my vent and my opinion!!!!





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I'M Not getting into a

Tue, 2007-11-06 19:05

I'M Not getting into a banter with anyone over my post .!! JMO !!  And that's all i have to say about that one!!

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Current

Wed, 2007-11-07 08:57

The current is a big factor to the depth of drift baiting. On days there is little current I think you could probably do it in almost any depth under 80m.

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IMO opinion i drift bait and

Wed, 2007-11-07 09:29

IMO opinion i drift bait and have great success in water up to the 50m mark max! This is what i find best:
6/0's snelled on 80lb leader and size 5 bean in water 40 to 50m
5/0's snelled on 80lb leader and size 4 bean in 30 to 40m
5/0's snelled on 60lb leader and size 3 bean in 20 to 30m
4/0's snelled on 60lb leader with no wieght at in 0 to 20m

I just make up 15 rigs of each and keep them in a berkey soft plastic wallet in different "labelled" sleaves so you can just simply change to which one is required in the depth you are fishing. My rigs are 1m in length to a swivel and my rod is always braid to leader of whatever to a clip swivel. That way you can just unclip the riga nd add a bigeer or smaller one thats needed.

I orginally looked at ryans rig and ive found that "I" like mine better but hey thats fishing and it was a great starting point to work from. I hope people dont think the same about my posts as i have always got something to say! But i never run other peoples methods down.........if it works for you share it to others but that doesnt mean you have to use it. The above is what i do and works a treat just try it out.....you can only make it better.

Broken down drift baiting rig:

Calcutta 400b and t-curve 6 to 10kg stick running 20lb braid to 1m length of 40lb penn10x.
Attached to this is a small showgun clip swivel.
Small showgun swivel to this attached to a 60lb penn10x leader
Down to size 5 bean (400mm from hooks) the leader gets wrapped through the sinker twice so it cant move at all!
Off the sinker, a lumo bead that runns between the sinker and hooks.
2 snelled 6/0 hooks with about 100mm in between depending on bait choice.

By having the sinker fixed it drifts down better doesnt snag as much and you still have enough leader betwwen the hooks and sinker to half hitch the bait if needed. Thats about it. Ill take some pics tonight if anyone wants to see "my' version of the drift bait rig. Cheers Chris.

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here to help!

Wed, 2007-11-07 12:59

Many websites "dont" have people wanting to help, this website has plenty. If you monitor the site properly you'll see Spess answers very quickly and gives his opinion in many posts. I dont take an offense to that nor anyone else comenting, this site has many knowledgable people 'that say their bit"....yes i comment alot but i get a stupid amount of PM's and comments saying thankyou.

Now Bill, if you read my post after "Tim" posted this topic you'll find me saying what????? Descent fish mate, i do rate my Baldchin.....could of put his stomach back in...hehehe

If you read the rest both Spess/Dean/myself are comenting........"So they can and i cant?"

No one put up a pick of the drift bait so i did, helping out CraigJ???

Bottom line is if you read ALL my posts on FW and FWA you see that i comment on people catching fish and often just say "good fish well done, plump fish mate" etc etc.........no mention about myself.....me thinks your putting me under a microscope and being picky. This site is a "read and comment" that's what i will continue to do

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i appreseate all the things

Wed, 2007-11-07 13:20

i appreseate all the things people write up on the site on how they do it and how they go about trying to catch that fish of a life time.that what makes this site the best fishing forum by far.
am looking forward to your pics of ya drift bait set up spess .thanks in advance

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dont no what happened there

Wed, 2007-11-07 13:28

dont no what happened there
forgot to mention NICE BALDIE TIM

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Is someone moderating my

Wed, 2007-11-07 13:37

Is someone moderating my posts????????

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Driftbait

Wed, 2007-11-07 13:42

I use exactly the same driftbait setup as Ryan. Only difference is I use wire for everything up here, especially when getting anywhere near those big coronation or coral trout that love reefing you on the bottom.

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Moderating SPESS

Wed, 2007-11-07 13:57

Not me buddy.... what went missing?


Nice Baldie too Tim, although I said that a hundred or so times on the boat and also at the fish cleaning bench.


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Nah Spess

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:05

Just the CPU thing being funny buggers. Seems all good now, touch wood.

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Na its cool andy it was the

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:06

Na its cool andy it was the cpu stuff not letting them get through....as they were long posts i cant be bothered re posting!lol.

Bascially i was just saying that i would love for people to say " spess that sounds like a good idea but have you tried this???" Thats how i have learnt most of my knowledge from and i just hope that most of my posts help in some way, if not please let me know! I do love to learn everyday :)

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All advice appreciated

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:17

I certainly appreciate all the advice you guys hand out (and need it too).
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Thanks Colin! Dont get me

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:22

Thanks Colin! Dont get me wrong if knew everything i wouldnt be talking on here!lol. i just love sharing anything i know about something i really love......which is why we are all here......FISHING! yeeeeehhaaaa

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Squid Baits

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:23

Only difference in my set up is I hide the bottom hook and trace inside the mantle of the squid. Just makes a slight improvement in the presentation. IMHO.

I use big circle hooks too and only ease the rod tip up to strike when drift baiting as Ryan or someone else eluded to earlier.


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 It's not just this

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:24


 It's not just this post and like i said I'm not getting into it was just  !!!JMO!!!!  

 This site is a "read and comment" that's what i will continue to do!!!

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"SUPER SNELLED"!!!!!!lol.

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:25

"SUPER SNELLED"!!!!!!lol.

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yep!

Wed, 2007-11-07 14:53

Spess Quote{Thanks Colin! Dont get me wrong if knew everything i wouldnt be talking on here!lol. i just love sharing anything i know about something i really love......which is why we are all here......FISHING! yeeeeehhaaaa}Quote

Fully agree Spess, i've been on fishing websites for years (reading/answering/sharing etc) and will continue for a long time. I like helping people and i also pick up info from others!!



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Absolutely SPESS!

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Appreciate

Wed, 2007-11-07 15:51

In my opinion, Ryan and Spess (and others) have given me a wider knowledge of fishing.
I've always been a boat/beach fisherman but from watching Ryan on FWA plus reading
tips that He and Spess give, I've tried soft plastics plus fly fishing
which I think, without them giving info, i would never have tried.

So thanks Ryan and Spess (and others), please keep it all coming.

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great baldy

Wed, 2007-11-07 17:10

nice catch . one of my favourite eating
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thanks!

Wed, 2007-11-07 19:10

Thanks for your comments Higgo, much appreciated and yeh Spess is very helpful to the site and without "people" contributing to Fishwrecked, it wouldn't be where it is today.....we'll continue!


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Contributors

Wed, 2007-11-07 19:40

Yep, its great seeing new photos of great fish from all over the state, country and now international angling scene. It's awesome where this site has got to and will continue to keep going with the great contributions of all the crew!!

Its great to have your fishing experience onboard Ryan, it provides a good local service to metropolitan anglers based upon your knowledge. Its that what sets you apart from the other major tackle retailers and why you have a successful business. Hopefully we can all take a little from your tips and advice. :)

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Thanks!

Wed, 2007-11-07 19:50

Thanks Adam, you comment is truely appreciated!



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Cmon Guys

Wed, 2007-11-07 19:57

Cmon Guys - Enough of the off topic love in we got going on here.

Lets not forget this thread is meant to be all about me  and my magnificent first Baldie .

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No its not!

Wed, 2007-11-07 20:54


Its about my wonderful photographing skills.

You just happened to be in the background Tim.

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oooo, someone's got tickets

Wed, 2007-11-07 19:59

oooo, someone's got tickets on themselves don't they tim? haha jks mate


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hehehe

Wed, 2007-11-07 20:02

hehehe.....what baldie Tim.....okay went to top of page......wow descent fish mate



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Thanks

Wed, 2007-11-07 20:02

Thanks for noticing Sam

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Yep

Wed, 2007-11-07 20:03

Must say this pictures comments got a way sidetracked. It looks like you are well and truly a label whore now Tim.  Oh thats right the fish, not a bad way to finish up!

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Yeh keep em coming Ryan, i

Wed, 2007-11-07 20:50

Yeh keep em coming Ryan, i know for a fact that from fishing in small creeks in NE Victoia to the  BIG DEEP BLUE up here in the Pilbara, im continuiously learning... wheather it be from trial and error or reading bit's and pieces on this site.... we' are all still learing as far as im concerned. Would love to sit down over a few frothy's and pick some bloke's brains about fishing..... We'd be drunk for weeks i reckon. KEEP THE INFO COMING GUY'S AND GIRLS.... BLOODY HANDY SITE!!!!
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Sorry "Timmy tickets"

Thu, 2007-11-08 06:37

Sorry "Timmy tickets" hahahaha na did you happen to get a wieght on that big boy?

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