Yeah the tires wernt deflated because the sand wasnt that soft. The problem was not having a ls diff in the back and the front of the car mostly resting on the bash plate. Did get a few good waves tho :)
Haha, nah i love my ranger. Its only weakness tho is the diff in the back, i wouldnt of got stuck if both wheels spun. Pretty piss weak that they dont come with ls diffs, mite have to invest in an air locker i think. It was a bumpy section with big dips and lumps, just chose the wrong path.
Paul the Ranger XLT has got a limited slip diff, but not a locked diff!, also if you have the auto then you touch the brake and gas at the same time, this kicks in the ABS which thinks the wheel standing still is locked and firms the brake up on the spinning wheel in the air... and out you can crawl.
ps I love my Ranger as well, never thought I would, but I needed to learn how to drive it to get the best out of it.
Just a tip. Next time you get stuck like that pull your handbrake on 2 clicks. Will engage the lsd. Lsd only works when theres some resistance on the wheels. Woulda got you moving again. Your car does have a lsd. I got a courier and mine does.
cheers for the tip mate, Im not very mechanicaly minded, but i pressumed there wasnt a lsd because the tyre in the air would spin but the other rear tyre with all the weight on it wouldnt???
Na its just the way they work. When there on the ground both wheels spin but as soon as one has no load it doesnt spin. This is where a diff locker comes in handy but they can also be dangerous. Your car definately has a lsd I can see the sticker on your diff. Should say "Fill with proper lsd oil" or something like that.
Yep wouldnt deflate my tyres on the bears track, too many knobly rocks to pull tyre off rim and only helps in boggy sand. Coupla fat boys standing on the back corner of the tray would have fixed that
I wouldnt deflate my tyres because it wasnt soft - Its not about you. Deflating your tyres does help you not get bogged but its also about track preservation eg, not making it worse for the next person. Too often people go in with this attitude and go an get stuck, now theres a dirty great hole in the track that wasnt there in the past.
How about a bit of prior planning, 5 mins to let down tyres - get on tracks/beach/go surfing/not get stuck - 10-15mins to reinflate and we all get to keep going back there for the future.
Night fish, if you take it easy you will find it really difficult to turn a tyre off a rim on rocks. Ive driven for days with tyres deflated over beaches/sandy/rocky tracks and never lost one yet.
I have always been taught that you should always drop tyre pressure offroad. I am not talking 15psi bot down to around 24. Reduces the risks of staking from sharp rocks and makes the ride about 100% more comfy. We did a heap of offroad at exxy this year because of the shitty weather, and I only did not drop tyre pressure once and geez it was a shitty ride compared to going down to 24 every other time. I am happy to learn if this is wrong though
It's all about "Track Preservation" and this can be achieved by deflating your tyres and taking a bit of care whilst driving. As Simon C stated the ride is far better. Too much arrogance combined with horsepower out there today and the tracks are suffering sad to say.
that's exactly what happenss to the Bears track. It is probably the most well used track down here and while most of the crew that use it drive to the conditions there are plenty of others that flog there cars and rip it up. While this may be fun it takes it's toll on the track. Around this time of year after a solid 6 months of warm season use it's pretty much rooted. Personally i'm glad i'm not one of the crew that go there multiple times each week.
Yes and it has all been said do remember some people dont have the grunt or clearance (soft roaders like to use the beaches and tracks too ) so be kind to them and the track and let them down a bit. 1st thing you should get when you go off road should be a tyre gauge followed by a compressor and dont be selfish.
When buying the compressor don't skimp and buy the cheapest , spend the money and buy a good one that will last and deliver at a faster rate. Buy a set of tyre deflaters, they save time and effort when properly adjusted.
don't forget the hand brake will kick in the LS Diff and the foot brakes is coupled to the ABS / brake distribution system. Using them in combo can get awsome results in soft sand or when one wheel is dicky-kicking like a dog in the air.
I only learnt this trick from my Jeep when looking at a USA forum, where the guys installed dual hand brakes, one for each back wheel to get the Quadrotrac system to fool itself into giving more power to the wheel stuck.
One of the reasons I went auto-box when I got the new Ranger was to use this type of technology advantage for idiots like me,,,,lol
Simon C
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tyres look a bit too inflated
tyres look a bit too inflated - but the swell looks well worth it.
Paul_86
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Yeah the tires wernt deflated
Yeah the tires wernt deflated because the sand wasnt that soft. The problem was not having a ls diff in the back and the front of the car mostly resting on the bash plate. Did get a few good waves tho :)
nightfish
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bogged
good job getting bogged going downhill!
snappermiles
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should have bought
a TOYOTA!!!!
ALL FISHERMEN ARE LIARS EXCEPT YOU AND ME! AND IM NOT SO SURE ABOUT YOU!
Paul_86
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Haha, nah i love my ranger.
Haha, nah i love my ranger. Its only weakness tho is the diff in the back, i wouldnt of got stuck if both wheels spun. Pretty piss weak that they dont come with ls diffs, mite have to invest in an air locker i think. It was a bumpy section with big dips and lumps, just chose the wrong path.
Tony Halliday
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Paul the Ranger XLT has got a
Paul the Ranger XLT has got a limited slip diff, but not a locked diff!, also if you have the auto then you touch the brake and gas at the same time, this kicks in the ABS which thinks the wheel standing still is locked and firms the brake up on the spinning wheel in the air... and out you can crawl.
ps I love my Ranger as well, never thought I would, but I needed to learn how to drive it to get the best out of it.
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It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
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harro
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bears?
bears track?
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Paul_86
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Yep
Yep good guess. Gets pretty cut up at times
MattMiller
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Yep, good old Bears track
the main reasons being too many people not deflating there tyres or locking the hubs in
Or just too many people in general.
Faulkner Family
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doesnt look like your bogged
doesnt look like your bogged , just left high and dry.
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cudbfishn
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Just a tip. Next time you get
Just a tip. Next time you get stuck like that pull your handbrake on 2 clicks. Will engage the lsd. Lsd only works when theres some resistance on the wheels. Woulda got you moving again. Your car does have a lsd. I got a courier and mine does.
Paul_86
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cheers for the tip
cheers for the tip mate, Im not very mechanicaly minded, but i pressumed there wasnt a lsd because the tyre in the air would spin but the other rear tyre with all the weight on it wouldnt???
cudbfishn
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Na its just the way they
Na its just the way they work. When there on the ground both wheels spin but as soon as one has no load it doesnt spin. This is where a diff locker comes in handy but they can also be dangerous. Your car definately has a lsd I can see the sticker on your diff. Should say "Fill with proper lsd oil" or something like that.
nightfish
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Deflating tyres
Yep wouldnt deflate my tyres on the bears track, too many knobly rocks to pull tyre off rim and only helps in boggy sand. Coupla fat boys standing on the back corner of the tray would have fixed that
Pete D
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Bloody back seat
Bloody back seat drivers..............
Hand brake as suggested or a touch on the brake.
Cheers Pete
sarcasm0
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To the people saying
I wouldnt deflate my tyres because it wasnt soft - Its not about you. Deflating your tyres does help you not get bogged but its also about track preservation eg, not making it worse for the next person. Too often people go in with this attitude and go an get stuck, now theres a dirty great hole in the track that wasnt there in the past.
How about a bit of prior planning, 5 mins to let down tyres - get on tracks/beach/go surfing/not get stuck - 10-15mins to reinflate and we all get to keep going back there for the future.
Night fish, if you take it easy you will find it really difficult to turn a tyre off a rim on rocks. Ive driven for days with tyres deflated over beaches/sandy/rocky tracks and never lost one yet.
Simon C
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I have always been taught
I have always been taught that you should always drop tyre pressure offroad. I am not talking 15psi bot down to around 24. Reduces the risks of staking from sharp rocks and makes the ride about 100% more comfy. We did a heap of offroad at exxy this year because of the shitty weather, and I only did not drop tyre pressure once and geez it was a shitty ride compared to going down to 24 every other time. I am happy to learn if this is wrong though
squidder
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Track Preservation
It's all about "Track Preservation" and this can be achieved by deflating your tyres and taking a bit of care whilst driving. As Simon C stated the ride is far better. Too much arrogance combined with horsepower out there today and the tracks are suffering sad to say.
Think about down the track.
MattMiller
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Yep,
that's exactly what happenss to the Bears track. It is probably the most well used track down here and while most of the crew that use it drive to the conditions there are plenty of others that flog there cars and rip it up. While this may be fun it takes it's toll on the track. Around this time of year after a solid 6 months of warm season use it's pretty much rooted. Personally i'm glad i'm not one of the crew that go there multiple times each week.
GrahamM
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Yes and it has all been said
Yes and it has all been said do remember some people dont have the grunt or clearance (soft roaders like to use the beaches and tracks too ) so be kind to them and the track and let them down a bit. 1st thing you should get when you go off road should be a tyre gauge followed by a compressor and dont be selfish.
carnarvonite
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Compressor
When buying the compressor don't skimp and buy the cheapest , spend the money and buy a good one that will last and deliver at a faster rate. Buy a set of tyre deflaters, they save time and effort when properly adjusted.
MattMiller
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HAHA,
people with soft roaders should stick to going shopping and taking the kids to soccer training
Hansie
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bogged on bears track
sheesh, dunno if i'd be in a hurry to post that one... esp in a decent 4by and going downhill!
as far as handbrake techniques are concerned, in this instance i would suggest releasing it and letting gravity sort you out.
just havin a laugh mate - 10 points for comedic value.
Paul_86
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Haha dont worry mate, i find
Haha dont worry mate, i find it funny myself. Thats why i put it up so the rest of use can have a laugh too.
Tony Halliday
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always have a quality tire
always have a quality tire gauge, seen to many buggered tires cause the gauge was out by miles.
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Paul_86
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Well there ya go. Learn
Well there ya go. Learn somethen new everyday. Cheers for the tips giys
Tony Halliday
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don't forget the hand brake
don't forget the hand brake will kick in the LS Diff and the foot brakes is coupled to the ABS / brake distribution system. Using them in combo can get awsome results in soft sand or when one wheel is dicky-kicking like a dog in the air.
I only learnt this trick from my Jeep when looking at a USA forum, where the guys installed dual hand brakes, one for each back wheel to get the Quadrotrac system to fool itself into giving more power to the wheel stuck.
One of the reasons I went auto-box when I got the new Ranger was to use this type of technology advantage for idiots like me,,,,lol
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)