Boats that have left you with a bad impression

Everyone at some time owns or goes for a ride in a boat that leaves you with bad taste in the mouth that you vow never to own one.

I have been in dozens of all sizes from 2 metre dinghys to 24 metre fishing boats but the one I vowed never to own was a Koolyn Craft. We were booked in to Coral bay for 4 weeks years back , I supplied the 33 foot bus and full annex and a mate brought his 21 foot Koolyn craft with a 140 Evinrude on the back.

Right from the first day one knew the boat was going to be a pig, anything below 15 knots and it would wallow like a drunken sow. We removed gear, swapped weight around, even borrowed another prop to see if it would improve its performance with no success.

So it was belt out at 20+ knots in all sorts of seas and get the livering daylights belted out of you or crawl at 7-8 knots and get soaking wet anything inbetween was a nightmare. Suddenly it would pick up speed like a rocket only to bog down just as fast.

Found out later that all the mate had done with it before taking it north was to launch it at Australind and putter down the channel in to the estuary and go crabbing or anchor and catch a feed of whiting.

Like to hear some stories from others experiences


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Trailcrafts. Mate had a 660

Sun, 2010-11-28 18:50

Trailcrafts. Mate had a 660 Sportscab that was the worst riding boat I have had the misfortune of fishing out of. Also the only boat I have ever riden in that actually managed to bang on flat water.

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Have to agree on the Koolyn

Sun, 2010-11-28 19:05

Have to agree on the Koolyn craft . . . also spent a bit of time on a Coraline 6.7 ?and that didnt impress either, broached, bangy, horrible thing . . . But having said that neither boat sunk so wasnt all bad . . . Best boat for its size was a Bonito 180 centre console. Amazing little boat . I fished Gamex 4 times in one years ago then owned one for years before trading up to what we have now. Still miss the old boat sometimes though , , guy that has it now loves it too and has a 175 Suzuki pushing it now, must fairly hum . 

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Leeder 710 the thing was a

Sun, 2010-11-28 19:10

Leeder 710 the thing was a pig at low speed and  any boat where you can see light coming through the fibre glass.... need i say more.

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i gotta say my sis in laws

Sun, 2010-11-28 19:35

i gotta say my sis in laws boat, it was a bit like a genesis and at low speeds in sloppy conditions your feet got wet. at high speeds it was ok in flat but it bounced around all over the place and you couldnt take your hand off the wheel.(no longer theirs). best i have been in is the one i am selling Cry.

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thats not right

Sun, 2010-11-28 22:42

thats not a very nice thing to say when there are many happy genesis owners out there was it one or not because if it is its a rare one because they are a beautiful riding boat for a ally

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if you read my comment , it

Sun, 2010-11-28 22:47

if you read my comment , it says its a bit like a genesis . not it is a genesis

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thats wrong

Sun, 2010-11-28 23:02

you should of just said a plate ally by putting a name to it most people assume thats the boat you are talking about even if you say its like it sorry about having a go but i have had many a good trip out in one and dont want to see the brand mentioned on this type of thread

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yours

Sun, 2010-11-28 19:42

Yours John, don't think you will catch me in the wee squirter again in a hurry.  That day in the boat with Jeffo and his cousin was one of the scariest I've had and the closest I've been to tipping over out yonder!

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All fixed

Sun, 2010-11-28 20:46

Had drilled a hole through the bulkhead from the original engine compartment in to the added on bit on the stern. Little did I know that It leaked around the bung in the add on and I was now letting water in to the main  hull which before it was in an airtight compartment.

Had to completely remove the whole bung assembly and grind it out to fit one that hadn't been modified to fit by the builder. Plenty of Sikaflex and lots of testing before I took it out again.

All fixed and hopefully off to the islands in the morning again.

 

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bought a brand new stacer

Sun, 2010-11-28 23:09

bought a brand new well known ali brand in 2002, had 8 major warranty claims over almost 2 years, missed out on 2 summers on the water as the boat only did 15 hrs on the water in that time. final straw was the 9 inch split along the keel. Fought tooth and nail and finally ended up with a new hull.......exactly the same hull and never a problem in 5 years.....first one was definately a lemon.

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Nice

Sun, 2010-11-28 20:18

 

Timeing to take the piss out of a boat,

There's a thread on here at the moment with a fellow member trying to sell one.

 

But if you ask me anythink thats made of ali is a head banger.

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LOL was thinking the same

Sun, 2010-11-28 20:31

LOL was thinking the same thing.

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hahaMy cousin has his 22ft

Mon, 2010-11-29 11:30

haha

My cousin has his 22ft razorline up in Ktown at the moment. Go up there every now and then.

The dampier chop is no fun in an ali boat... my god by the time you get back every part of your body hurts, can barely stand because of sore feet and every wave you hti sounds like the hull's going to snap in half!! Bloody spine basher it is!

Last weekend we went out 32 mile! luckily it wasnt that bad!

Give me a glass boat anyday!

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Not so much the boat, but I

Sun, 2010-11-28 20:48

Not so much the boat, but I had an early 80's stern drive that really was well looked after, but still managed to have a drama after every trip out. I will be damned if I ever buy another stern that isn't new or very very very nearly new.

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yes.... a red and white

Sun, 2010-11-28 21:01

yes.... a red and white southwind that dosnt catch fish...will be for sale soon if it dosnt come good!!!!

mine not cammos's

 

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Drove past a sweet looking

Sun, 2010-11-28 21:28

Drove past a sweet looking Haines in Mandurah yesterday. For sale for $108k, must have been 23-34 foot at least, with twin Honda's from memory.

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that haines has been for

Sun, 2010-11-28 22:24

that haines has been for sale for quite a while now....

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is that the one on old

Mon, 2010-11-29 11:31

is that the one on old mandurah road?

Theres been a boat for sale next to the BP for ages. Probably years!

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mercruiser

Sun, 2010-11-28 21:02

Had a Chivers Thunderbird with a 140 Mercruiser , wonderful boat but heaps of dramas with the exhaust manifold and riser. There is a gizmo that stops water flowing back in to the engine that had stuffed up resulting in a black clay like substance forming in the riser choking off the exhaust. The back pressure would stall the motor after 4-5 minutes and by the time you went to start in again the pressure would have dropped off allowing it to run for another few minutes.

Had everyone baffled untill we took the riser off and found it chockers full of the gunk, cleaned it out, replace the gizmo only to have it all start over again after 2-3 trips. Had a guts full by then and got rid of it and bought a 21 foot Guardian with a Volvo--another story!!

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koolyn

Sun, 2010-11-28 22:03

grandfather owned a koolyn years back and it had fuel tank up the front under the bow and it seemed to b nose heavy and rode like a pig when fishing in exxy and was nearly tipped ova one day in geo bay flat calm when near full noise when two blokes moved to one side tryin to cast at a school of tuna          fuggin scary  

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Won't name names, but I

Sun, 2010-11-28 23:04

Won't name names, but I copped a complete hiding whilst in a custom plate boat of a fellow FW member. Don't know make/model, but I've been in plenty of plate boats & 'fake' platies, but boy was it a knee, ankle & spine shattering ride. Felt like I was in a tin can being compressed.

I remember a 'saying' that an older fella told me... you'll tell who owns a poor built plate boat because they'll be at the pub hunched over like a greyhound trying to root a grape.

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Fugg the inboards

Mon, 2010-11-29 10:37

As a few people have said I would never own another inboard, far to many problems
Once you buy a inboard your stuck with it unless you want to drop a heap of coin to sell it, if is more than 10years old your stuffed as the motor is worth nothing (unless it is a Cummings )
If it is petrol then your just sitting on a bomb ready to go off.

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Not the Boat

Mon, 2010-11-29 12:01

that's the problem...... generally it's been the skipper.......

 

you know what they say...

'bad tradesmen always blames his tools...... 

I don't get back in boats if the skipper is clueless.

It takes time and experience to learn how to drive a boat in sea conditions, wahtever the brand/make of boat.

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best boat I have ever owned

Mon, 2010-11-29 13:57

best boat I have ever owned had one of the worse slow speed wonders, the hull was design for keeping the boat dry and good speed work, so the chymes tend to send you into arm to arm locks at low speed....lol
Some would say it's the worst thing about it, but you live with it, cause it is due to it's great dry ride at speed.

Never been in a boat that was totaly cr@p yet, but been in a few that where over priced for what you got...lol
And as Damo says, 80% of the time the skipper does not know how to ride through the issue or set the boat up right. Cats and chymed hulls often are curses due to lack of skipper skills... :-)
JMO

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