Cop that hirdie
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Mummmm does he lose his job now??
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randall df223
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If we still had access to
If we still had access to the privvie counsel, he would appeal to them.... then he would ask for the Indonesia president to intervene and stop it....
Fish! HARD!
tiimmbo
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ASADA still have to prove
ASADA still have to prove the players took illegal substances and convict them, until then our coach is safe. Will be all over soon enough I hope then us essendon supporters can get back to enjoying footy.
OLD BANGA
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James Hird
tiimmbo,
We would all like to get back to enjoying footy, I like most footy fans are sick and tired of hearing about the "Essendon Supplements Programme", just remember the game is bigger than any one individual. I have in the past had great respect for James Hird but I am finding it very difficult to maintain that respect.
The following is an extract from the AFL website:
"JAMES Hird has failed in his Federal Court appeal to have the joint AFL-ASADA investigation into Essendon's 2012 supplements program declared unlawful.
Federal Court Justice Susan Kenny delivered the unanimous judgment on Friday.
Justice Kenny said there was nothing unlawful in using the AFL's powers to assist ASADA in its investigation against Essendon's supplements program.
Hird, who afl.com.au understands is overseas while the Bombers players are on a short break, was also ordered by the Federal Court to pay all legal costs.
Hird has 28 days to lodge an appeal in the High Court if he chooses to continue his legal challenge to the joint investigation.
ASADA released a statement shortly after the verdict was delivered on Friday saying it had been vindicated for working with the AFL to uphold a clean competition.
"ASADA and sports must partner if we are to have any chance in protecting the integrity of fair competition," the statement read.
CEO Ben McDevitt said the anti-doping body would remain vigilant in its work to "protect the health of athletes and their right to compete against clean athletes".
Friday's decision means the Anti-Doping Tribunal hearing in relation to infraction notices issued to 34 past and present Essendon players and one former employee of the club will proceed according to a timetable released on Thursday.
The tribunal will be adjourned on February 18 for members to consider their decision as to whether anyone issued with infraction notices breached the anti-doping code.
If anyone is found to have breached the code a hearing will then be set to determine what sanctions are applied to the parties.
Hird lodged the appeal against Justice John Middleton's Federal Court decision in October after Justice Middleton found in September all parts of the ASADA investigation were lawful, including the provision of the interim report to the AFL.
Essendon did not support Hird's decision to appeal and discussed his future at the club.
However the Bombers have since re-affirmed their commitment to Hird being senior coach for the next two seasons"
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tiimmbo
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Roll on the end of Feb, we
Roll on the end of Feb, we can get back to watching footy as we should be. We may even find there is not enough evidence to convict anyone of illegal substance use and Hird isnt the anti christ !!! That clearly wont be a popular outcome for the majority though.
crasny1
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Fantastic Player
Biggest lloser as a coach.
He just cant get it through his thick skull that using "substances" unproved on young men is not OK.
The point about that is totally missed by him, whether the investigation is (as now judged) or insnt legal. What he oversaw as the coach doping young players is the problem, not whether the investigation is legal or not.
And if he tries to claim ignorance then he should resign anyway, as ultimately it is his responsibility as the coach. The buck stops there.
Football and Essendon will remain scarred if he remains. I have no remaining respect for him because he just dont see the point. Idiot!!!
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randall df223
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He admitted day one he was
He admitted day one he was responsible and the buck stops with him.....
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crasny1
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So why hasnt he fallen on the
So why hasnt he fallen on the sword then. If the buck stops there, thats what all responsible people would do.
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Jimmysparks
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Too egotistical to admit he
Too egotistical to admit he has made a mistake, reminds me of lance Armstrong. Truth finally comes out.
petermac
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mate you have summed it up
you in that short sentence have summed it up perfectly no more need to be said
Saulty2
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excuse my ignorance
but is it guilty until proved innocent ? one thing is for sure regardless of the outcome they have stained his reputation , he may well! they may not have ! but to date unproven ,my pet hate is media doesnt report anymore , they make the news , & im def. not a essendon supporter , if they were really serious then they should abandon the 3 strikes and report /shame every player that tests positive , JMO thats all
Jimmysparks
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He had a duty of care with
He had a duty of care with young, up and coming afl footballers. They are impressionable, and will do whatever the coach says to get a game. He continues to think he has done nothing wrong. What a knob head, has ruined everyone's respect of essendon.
randall df223
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paddy ryder knows who was
paddy ryder knows who was wrong. now he plays for port....
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Rob H
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So did Demetrio make a call
So did Demetrio make a call to Essendon warning them to come clean or not?
Seems to be within the realms of possibilty-which would tarnish the core of the AFL
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Paul H
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Demetrio has always been
Demetrio has always been about minimising the harm to the AFL brand. In my mind there is enough info to suggest that call was made - but he will never admit it.
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It's farcical how long this
It's farcical how long this has gone on. Arrogance at its worst. I remember Dr Peter Larkin commenting a couple of years ago when he was asked about Essendons huge (18 or so) soft tissue injuries saying its really bad luck and that this amount of soft tissue injuries would 'reasonably be attributed to performance enhancing drugs'. Nek minit!
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meglodon
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One strike and your out
Isn't that the way the Olympic games committee run their ship. If so then that should be the way for all AFL players.
Having said that let's keep the rule of law, not guilty until proven beyond a reasonable doubt in an open court.
timboon
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Cransy, pretty harsh
Cransy, pretty harsh mate....
Clearly this is now guilty until proven innocent....
I thought initially ASADA was contacted to seek permission for the Bombers to administer what ever the fk it was the guys were on?
I just cant see how a coach can take sole responsibility for the actions of many....
I'm a Hawk but I still think Hird is the best player I have ever seen....
If they had concrete evidence then why the fuck is it taking so long..... This is worse than the Bali soon to be 7
petermac
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sorry tim
sorry mate but don't agree , think Cransy is very right in what he said , if my young bloke was on the bombers list and got given drugs and lets face it they are drugs in an organized program , I would tear hird a second arse , the respect I hade for him is long gone
randall df223
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plus one for that!
plus one for that!
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crasny1
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Tim
Agree fully with you about the baiting of dogs, but this is basically "baiting" of young players. Cheat in a cruel way by dog owners, cheat in a cruel way by Essendon. Now I would rather be the player with a needle in my arm/arse than the animals, but cheating is cheating.
The Boards in NSW and the CEO in Vic has fallen on their swords for the "Dog" act, and that's what Hird the low life should do. I would have respected him for that, but his ongoing idea that nothings been done wrong is a blight on his once amazing character.
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meglodon
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Hit the nail right on the head timboon
Justice delayed is justice denied.
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uncle
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Just shows you can't con the
Umpires forever,go on challenge pleassssse
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randall df223
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As a great man once
As a great man once said, "I'm innocent!". oh no, sorry that was lance armstrong who said that....
Fish! HARD!
timboon
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Lol uncle.... Now
Lol uncle....
Now now.....
Are you talking about the Selwoods?
I'm thinking the longer this goes on, innocent.....
meersy
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This would have all be over a
This would have all be over a long time ago had it been a WA club, Theres no way the AFL would let it drag on this long if it were West Coast. Mind you West Coast would have delt with it by now also.
crasny1
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IMO simple
He allowed and oversaw the use of unknown substances on young men in injections. Now ask is this right or wrong.
Dont care if it is legal or not. For allowing that he is Guilty as sin.
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randall df223
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plus one for that
Fish! HARD!
mungus
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From Essendon's own
From Essendon's own report:
"In particular the rapid diversification into exotic supplements, sharp increase in frequency of injections, the shift to treatment offsite in alternative medicine clinics, emergence of unfamiliar suppliers, marginalization of traditional medical staff etc combine to create a disturbing picture of a pharmacologically experimental environment never adequately controlled or challenged or documented within the Club in the period under review."
It doesn't really matter whether the players or club are found guilty of performance enhancing substances or not. The fact is that this was the environment at the Essendon FC while Hird was the head coach. Ultimately the responsibilty should stop with him, how anyone can still be defending him is beyond my comprehension.
randall df223
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And plus one for that as well
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timboon
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How is the coach ( skills and
How is the coach ( skills and tactician ) responsible for the fitness side of things!?!? That is a whole different dept...
So does than mean the Pres and the CEO of the bombers are innocent??
Far cough....
Its not under 16's where the coach is also the water boy the goal ump and transport provider...
These clubs have hundreds of people working to create the level of performance to be an AFL side...
If it is found that ASADA gave permission for the bombers to use "the substance" then imo the buck stops with them!!
If the mighty hawks don't win the flag this year I hope the bombers smash it to stick it up every fucker...
I bet my balls every club has some ghosts in the closet... IE Judd and Mars n Visy sponsorship/Salary Cap breach!!
But anyway we'll see I guess I just think its head hunting Hird to point the finger soley at him, a bloke who has given his whole working life to a club and then be singled out is rank.....
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Coach oversees all. may not
Coach oversees all. may not have input in every detail but he definitely sees all
crasny1
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Its the way it works
The one in charge cops the flack, because he SHOULD know whats going on. If he did its obvious - fall on your sword. If he didnt its incompetence, and fall on your sword.
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timboon
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So you mean the Chief
So you mean the Chief Executive Officer??
BP has an oil spill it aint the ops manager that takes it, its the CEO....
Now that footy is a business that's how its rolls...
Sure the coach has pull but he aint the boss man that's why they get fired at will....
crasny1
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CEO did!!
So why not Hird??
The controversy has had serious ramifications and adverse effects on the football club as a whole. A number of senior staff have either been dismissed or have resigned. Senior staff no longer at the club due to the controversy include David Evans (former chairman), Ian Robson (former CEO), Danny Corcoran (former head of football), Dean Robinson (former head of high performance) and Stephen Dank (former contracted biochemist and sports scientist).
23 May 2013: Ian Robson stands down as CEO of the Essendon Football Club
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timboon
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Hird stood down for a year
Hird stood down for a year Cransy, He obviously believes he's done nothing wrong otherwise why would a guy like him go through all the crap... He could have just walked and then eventually done a Wayne Carey and earnt a quid commentating or something...
People get less for Attempted murder in this country....
What about the players then??
Shouldn't they all quit?
Shouldn't the 30 players all move on from AFL?
crasny1
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I dont believe the players
I dont believe the players had much off a choice. A coach and club can influence young minds pretty damn sure. But some will probably get banned for this (unfortunately) but innocence is no excuse when it comes to dope in sport.
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randall df223
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i reckon the senior playing
i reckon the senior playing group have a lot to answer for as well. someone should have stepped up and said "this is wrong".
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petermac
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you are so right
you cant tell me that dustin fletcher with 20 years in the afl system as a player didn't know it was wrong or didn't know it was going on , he has been very quiet on the subject
timboon
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If it was wrong......
If it was wrong......
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come on TB if it was a son
come on TB if it was a son of yours or a friends would you still believe this, what i find strange is how the bombers have managed to keep all the familys of the players quite
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Disgrace
James 'all about me' Hird is a dead set disgrace. He knew what was going on, particularly the injecting in a no name building across the road from the club.
He should have been gone a long time ago for bringing the game into disrepute at the least.
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Fair comments Gilly... I
Fair comments Gilly...
I just think there is more to this than what we know of...
Something doesn't add up to me...
Essendon football club IF found guilty all are to blame, anyone in the know not just the coach...
It will be interesting in years to come when players leave the bombers and have an opportunity to speak openly, that's when we will find out what really went on.
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It will be interesting in
It will be interesting in years to come when players leave the bombers and have an opportunity to speak openly, that's when we will find out what really went on.
this will be very interesting and i think it will be sooner rather then later with blokes leaving slowly over the next couple years,
still shake my head at goddard picking bombers.
tiimmbo
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There are 34 players charged
There are 34 players charged - 20 of them remain at Essendon which leaves 14 that have left - some of them no longer play footy. There has been plenty of time for disgruntled ex players to 'speak openly'. At this stage we haven't heard from anyone that is able to spill the beans which probably means their is nothing to spill.
Guilty until proven innocent and even then some wont accept it. The AFL/ASADA happily new it would not proceed with charges against anyone using AOD9604 but let Jobe Watson be hung out to dry in the public domain. This thing has been orchestrated from the begining to try and get some scalps of high profile people and save the players. It all went pear shaped when ASADA and the AFL went their seperate ways. It could all pan out that no one has any convictions for doping against them. Time will tell.
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Not likely to spill any
Not likely to spill any beans whilst in the middle of court hearings more like it
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FaRk i cant wait for the
FaRk i cant wait for the season to start, this is feeling like the demersal ban where we just like arguing over crap and bagging each other out over small stuff.
i put that as politly as i could
randall df223
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At the end of the day,
At the end of the day, perhaps they weren't performance enhancing drugs? the proof is in the pudding.... essendon haven't performed
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timboon
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Its not bagging Gilly, I
Its not bagging Gilly, I don't think anyone truely takes offence...
I certainly don't as everyone is entitled to their opinion...
However...
I think that some people cough cough not mentioning any names Collingwood supporters would like to see their rival suffer in anyway possible....
There is also the odd WC wanker that pipes up, no matter what happens to the bombers they wont be as bad as WC the next few years....
Next coach to be sacked is whats his face from WC
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I no its not bagging. Just
I no its not bagging. Just keen to get the season on and start slinging mud at the pies for a good reason. Been reading afl website lately even the stories on there are boring and pointless. Been a long uneventful of season leaving everyone clutching for straws. The AFL need to end this bomber crap ASAP the stain it's leaving will soon be to hard to undo and forever be a black spot on our game
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Fark off
Fark off timboon, if it had have happened at the Pies I'd be calling for the Coaches head as well. Piss poor governance by a bloke who should have known better.
The report commissioned by Swikowski (or whatever his name was) is damning enough as it is. The only bloke who hasn't been fired/fallen on his sword has been Hird. Ego, its not a dirty word......
Hird may yet wriggle out but only because ASADA's two key witnesses refused to testify. Wonder why?
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The thing that sticks most in
The thing that sticks most in my mind is the fact Essendon have no documentation of what the players were taking!
WTF - this is an AFL club we are talking about, everything is documented - oh except this...........
Whatever was given to the players - legal or illegal I do not believe that there was no documentation - surely an AFL club would be documenting it so you can learn what was getting results or otherwise - the only reason I can think of if they weren't is they did not want to have records - why??
Other thing I question is - were docs destroyed after Demitirou tipped them off to protect the AFL brand?????
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Probably right Paul... If it
Probably right Paul...
If it was Pt Adelaide then fair enough it would most likely have been stolen by a member.
If it was WC a former player would have forgotten where he filed it after a 4 day bender.
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"If it was Pt Adelaide then
"If it was Pt Adelaide then fair enough it would most likely have been stolen by a member."
The drugs or the paperwork? Ha
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ohh its getting closer
if the bombers field a second rate drug free team, can the 'legend' still coach
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the whole sorry thing is
the whole sorry thing about this subject is hird will not be remembered for being 1 of the best Afl players of the past 25 years , he will be remembered as a cheat , that's huge ego wouldn't let him admit he had made a mistake as a coach ,in any game hiding something that might give you an advantage (especially drugs) if it isn't approved by the game is called cheating, i have a mate that can count cards and is banned from burswood casio he is isn't using drugs just his brain and is classed as a cheat nuff said
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Probably should....
...take him out on your boat...with a brain like that you wouldn't need a compass or GPS.
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LOL
LOL
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Name a blemish on his name
Name a blemish on his name prior to this P'mac....
Why would a guy like him risk it all if he thought it was Illegal?
Doenst make sense, he comes across as one of the straightest shooters in the game I reckon.....
Is ASADA had approved this substance then how is it illegal??
I hope the bombers stick it to the AFL, if the AFL try to fuck em pull out of ANZAC day as well...
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why wouldnt james risk it
why wouldnt james risk it all, to be the greatest ever, greatest player and greatest coach. all the sudden he is in the same league as leigh mathews. why wouldnt you give it your all and some. in his case he gave it a little extra
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Pull
Pull out of Anzac Day? That really is a nieve statement.
16 other clubs would love the Bombers to pull out of that, will never happen.
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Do you guys think that
Do you guys think that Essendon was the only club pushing the limits?
In his case the club he was coaching gave it a little extra...
ASADA approved the "substance" apparently and THEY went ahead and administered it...
Maybe Freo could start using the shit on Colin Sylvia...
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if freo havent
if freo haven't tried drugs on colin silvia they should he was a problem child at Melbourne (and I support Melbourne) , he is a worse pick up than Jack Anthony ever was at least jack trained hard and played a few games for a lot less than the 400k a year silvia is getting payed a year
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Tall poppy sindrome
Tall poppy syndrome strikes again, IMO we are seeing one of Australians character faults coming to the fore, lets tear down anyone who stands out from the crowd at doing something.
People and organisations are lining up to see who can be the hangman.
How does that old saying go, arrh yes "justice delayed is justice denied" or something like that. Facts get blurred with fiction and rumour becomes facts.
This whole matter should have been settled at least a year ago, peoples reputations have been destroyed and their means of making a living gone forever along with the respect they held in the sporting arena.
Are they guilty as has been alleged, I don't know.
Is there a secret agenda being played out, again I don't know.
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fair call
it certainly has gone on for toooo long
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gotta love the bombers
told that to recruit players they have to go thru clubs, not us we do what we like, crikey will there be any players left in the afl to start the season, lotta injuries
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what i dont understand
what I don't understand is how they are allowed to increase the playing list to cover the NAB cup what if they turn up a diamond that has been over looked by other clubs will he be tied to the bombers, if they cant field a team because of the amount of players under investigation , I say stiff shit , should be out of the Nab cup or play their vfl side not toping up with discarded players ,f,,,,,, joke should have been settled 18 months ago
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9 clubs
9 Victorian clubs cleared by Worksafe, Bombers still being investigated with regards to providing an unsafe workplace.
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Tribunal decision getting
Tribunal decision getting closer as well now then the media can go chase Gold Coast and Karmichael Hunt.
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Interesting
Going to be interesting as to where that heads tiimmbo.
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Yep sure is, could be a
Yep sure is, could be a storm In a tea cup or the tip of a very big iceberg.
Either way though the sooner the sideshows all end and the footy starts the better.
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wow...a different AFL team
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a hard days fishing still beats work
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NAB
NAB Challenge kicking off this Thursday.
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james hird
james hird will never be in the AFL hall of fame he will be inducted into the AFL hall of disgrace though
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Is James Hird the next David Hicks
He never broke any laws despite what the governments of the day wanted all of us to believe.
As I said in my earlier post, is there a hidden agenda someone/body is pursuing.
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Cheating - just copied my post above so you dont miss it Tim
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Agree fully with you about the baiting of dogs, but this is basically "baiting" of young players. Cheat in a cruel way by dog owners, cheat in a cruel way by Essendon. Now I would rather be the player with a needle in my arm/arse than the animals, but cheating is cheating.
The Boards in NSW and the CEO in Vic has fallen on their swords for the "Dog" act, and that's what Hird the low life should do. I would have respected him for that, but his ongoing idea that nothings been done wrong is a blight on his once amazing character.
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uncle
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Can't finalise this and move on
Was Special K helping anyone at the Gold Coast??
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terboz123
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Date Joined: 13/04/11
i still dont understand how
i still dont understand how people think illicit drugs are performance enhancing.
a hard days fishing still beats work
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Date Joined: 03/03/10
you got that right
that will be bigger than the bombers scandal, as if Special K needed the money , this goes lots a lot deeper
timboon
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Date Joined: 14/11/10
Ah i love the passion we
Ah i love the passion we have on here...
Cransy I thank you for inviting me to comment :)
I'm trying to think of scenarios where your son or daughter ( if you have any ) could be used...
Lets just say your daughter worked at KFC....
Lets say that she was encouraged to eat her 25 Mcfree Mcransy Mc chicken burgers a day but then she started to get a large bottom and could no longer get her dif into her new Barina that old dad ( you ) had lashed out and got her...
Now who should we blame for this?
Your not so little girl anymore even though she's an adult and can make her own decisions?
The supervisor?
The Mc franchise owner or
The Kernal Mc Chik himself??
It sure is god damn complicated aint it...
But did anyone actually commit an offence???
Wilzee
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Date Joined: 10/12/14
Forgive me if this has
Forgive me if this has already been posted - a good laugh
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timboon
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Date Joined: 14/11/10
Yeah and where are ya
Yeah and where are ya Cransy...
That took me ages to punch that scenario out
meglodon
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Date Joined: 17/06/10
I don't get it
I just don't get it, all I see is a foul mouthed toothless yobo trying to get a laugh by using obscenities intermixed with a load of verbal diarrhoea.
meglodon
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Date Joined: 17/06/10
ASDA and credability, loss of it
I'm afraid this thing has gone on for way to long. If you are going to administer justice, do it, don't bloody dither around and drag things out.
You have the evidence, then prosecute to the full extent of your authority, if in 3 years you can't put together a case to go to a court then it seems to me that things are very thin on the ground about getting it to court where the facts can be put up and judged before your peers.
The way this episode has gone on and on has, in my opinion placed a cloud over the ability of ASDA to professional conduct such investigations.
tiimmbo
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Date Joined: 16/08/09
You have it all wrong
You have it all wrong meglodon - essendon is evil, James hird is the devil and forget the evidence they are guilty because that's what I read in the paper.
meglodon
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Date Joined: 17/06/10
Yeah right
Sorry how could I not believe what the papers tell me.