Crabbing out deep

 Anyone done it? Any rules for Rec? Or is it considered cray fishing?


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 I was just reading ryans

Sat, 2017-09-09 21:33

 I was just reading ryans post and thought the same. What sort of crabs are in those depths?

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 Isnt it some huge type of

Sat, 2017-09-09 21:38

 Isnt it some huge type of crab? Spider Crab maybe?

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There big

Sat, 2017-09-09 21:57

White crabs . Huge legs . Can't think of name .,

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 Snow crabs?

Sat, 2017-09-09 23:50

 Snow crabs?

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Yep that's them

Sun, 2017-09-10 00:08

Got given one years ago. Taste brilliant. .alzheimers

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Crystal crab

Sat, 2017-09-09 21:59

Unsure.

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Snow crabs

Sun, 2017-09-10 06:55

Snow or crystal crabs, usually caught around 400 metres

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Light reading on mr crabby

Sun, 2017-09-10 08:02

www.pir.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/252302/ESD_Risk_Assessment_Deep_Sea_Crabs_Fishery.pdf

 

Some good refrences to the WA fishery on here , this was done by SA fisherys as a risk assessment.

AS far as rec catching goes , you be a pioneer I would say , good luck dealing with fisherys , there track record recently has been less than stellar, IMO.

Interesting how on page 5 is says champagne crabs fished way back in 1997 to 1999 became not sustainable even after few short years,

and that was taking just 50t a year, the TAC is now set at around 14t a year.

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What about Champagne crabs ?

Sun, 2017-09-10 14:51

 Are these caught locally and in a similar depth ? 

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cmon spongebob read the menu!

Sun, 2017-09-10 15:29

Yes all the wa info is in those first 5 or 6 pages.

Not sure if it states depth , but ya feet wont touch bottom out there.

A friend mentioned the other day he had 650 metres out in 450m and didnt touch, ( current).

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 I think it would win Photo

Sun, 2017-09-10 16:27

 I think it would win Photo of the month if someone posted a bag of caught snow/crystal crab :)

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 Howdy Bryce, I can't speak

Sun, 2017-09-10 20:01

 Howdy Bryce,

 

I can't speak from experience regarding the Snow or Crystal crabs but I fished for Kings in SA professionally.  

 

I also can't speak of Kings in WA waters but i know there are boats here that chase them.

 

You'll get them anywhere from about 120 - 400 meters. 

 

Find the mud in about 160 and you will be a good chance of getting into them.

 

The tricky aspects of them are the tides out there, you can loose gear easily if you get a screaming tide.  I'm sure you know from fishing wide what the tide can be like. You really need to have your gear down for a few days, a week is even better to give them time to crawl.

 

You'll need lots of holding bait to keep the smell for long enough for them to crawl, roo tail/hands works well, swell seems to help.

 

We used to string 20 lines of 5 pots. Its going back a while now but i think we had 50 fath between each pot. SA type pots but instead of stainless mesh we'd use the heavy cod end of trawl mesh as the kings are hard on the gear. We used standard red placcy necks in the pots which you'd think would be too small but we'd still get 10kg males in them. So justy a SA style cray pot with heavey trawl mesh. 

 

It would be definately worth a crack if you knew you could get gear down one week and get back to it the next, you'll obviously need a commercial style winch, the 200ltr drums with the top cut off works well for storing a fuck load of rope which you'll need as it comes off the winch.

 

You will need hefty floats to ensure if you go all the way back to get your gear and the tide is screaming you can at least find them. Thats a catch 22 also though as the more float action you have the more chance you have of a screaming tide relocating your gear to antarctica.....

 

If you do happen to get a few ensure you have some cable ties to secure their claws so they dont fight and trash each other. Watch out for the bitches, as usual they are the fiesty ones

 

Anyway i hope that helps,

 

Happy hunting

 

Boon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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 Howdy Bryce, I can't speak

Sun, 2017-09-10 20:01

 Howdy Bryce,

 

I can't speak from experience regarding the Snow or Crystal crabs but I fished for Kings in SA professionally.  

 

I also can't speak of Kings in WA waters but i know there are boats here that chase them.

 

You'll get them anywhere from about 120 - 400 meters. 

 

Find the mud in about 160 and you will be a good chance of getting into them.

 

The tricky aspects of them are the tides out there, you can loose gear easily if you get a screaming tide.  I'm sure you know from fishing wide what the tide can be like. You really need to have your gear down for a few days, a week is even better to give them time to crawl.

 

You'll need lots of holding bait to keep the smell for long enough for them to crawl, roo tail/hands works well, swell seems to help.

 

We used to string 20 lines of 5 pots. Its going back a while now but i think we had 50 fath between each pot. SA type pots but instead of stainless mesh we'd use the heavy cod end of trawl mesh as the kings are hard on the gear. We used standard red placcy necks in the pots which you'd think would be too small but we'd still get 10kg males in them. So justy a SA style cray pot with heavey trawl mesh. 

 

It would be definately worth a crack if you knew you could get gear down one week and get back to it the next, you'll obviously need a commercial style winch, the 200ltr drums with the top cut off works well for storing a fuck load of rope which you'll need as it comes off the winch.

 

You will need hefty floats to ensure if you go all the way back to get your gear and the tide is screaming you can at least find them. Thats a catch 22 also though as the more float action you have the more chance you have of a screaming tide relocating your gear to antarctica.....

 

If you do happen to get a few ensure you have some cable ties to secure their claws so they dont fight and trash each other. Watch out for the bitches, as usual they are the fiesty ones

 

Anyway i hope that helps,

 

Happy hunting

 

Boon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In WA, they used plastic craypots

Sun, 2017-09-10 20:22

 believe it or not, they used those bloody folding amateur pots for snow crabs. But they were strung together in large numbers, can't remember, maybe 50 on one rope and heavily ballasted? They had the advantage of being able to be hinged open and stacked withut taking up too much deck space. This was north of Kalbarri up towards Carnarvon, working 200-400 metrs, IIRC?  left them for at least 3 days for a pull, and I remember that the fisherman I was talking to about it saying they were fished down in an area very quickly, and you had to keep moving. Crayfishermen used to get them a bit in their pots when they were getting out towards 120 fathoms, (approx 200m) when they were chasing the whites over the edge.

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That is soooo deep

Mon, 2017-09-11 00:52

As has been said above, you certainly would need a very good winch the type used by most amateurs would burn out before you got the pot to the surface.

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crabs

Mon, 2017-09-11 05:57

 i fished out of Esperance in 200-600m for both the champagne crabs and the Mulataga King crab( the ones up to 15kg) and used both steel crab pots and plastic cray pots with success on the Flying fish 5 (75 Westcoaster).

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Deep Water Crabs

Wed, 2017-09-13 07:57

Champage crabs are all I've seen and taste really good done in black pepper, just gotta watch the spikes on the legs.

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Had a bit of a google after

Thu, 2017-09-14 17:01

Had a bit of a google after reading post and found an old post from fishwrecked about commercial snow crabs off Fremantle.

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/snow-crabs

 

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Had a bit of a google after

Thu, 2017-09-14 17:01

Had a bit of a google after reading post and found an old post from fishwrecked about commercial snow crabs off Fremantle.

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/snow-crabs