Cray Report
Submitted by tiimmbo on Fri, 2017-10-20 15:00
For those that are interested there were a few soft shell crays about today out a little deeper. Visibility was still atrocious but plenty of crays about, got our bag of 16 in one dive.
little johnny
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Nice
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Shark1
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so how deep is "deeper" 40
so how deep is "deeper" 40 plus? ;p
tiimmbo
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Nah no need to go that deep
Nah no need to go that deep at this time of year. 30m today, thought the visibility might be a bit better a little deeper but no luck.
meglodon
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Thanks for starting the cray report off
Thanks Timmbo for starting off the cray report, I'm a potter but the things the diving crew put up and their observations are much appreciated I'm sure by all of us who like to keep a bit of tin or fibre glass between Mr white and ourselves.
Faulkner Family
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sounds like a good season
sounds like a good season starter. hopefully the reports of pots being tampered with dont come.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Darren253
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Bump
Come on then...
Who has pots out? How is it going so far?
I'm ready to put mine in again but my deckie is adamant we should wait a few more weeks after a slow start to last season.
If the kids are going to be up at 5am anyway, I might as well get up at 4.30am and get to go out on the boat!
gruntre69
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Would have to agree with
Would have to agree with your deckie from what I saw yesterday...
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harro
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yeah mate
we have been bagging out easily in pots until the full moon came,
they have buried in the caves for a few days until the dark comes back, this weekend and from then on will be mental..
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gruntre69
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I had a dive off Hillaries
I had a dive off Hillaries yesterday to have a look at depths between 5 and 12m. The Vis was crap and the surge was huge. There are definately not a lot of crays in close yet. There were a few but the numbers seemed down for me compared to about this time last year. need to find some spots out a bit deeper by the sound of it...
Did throw my pots in to soak....
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mr_shenn
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Dived in no more than 7m off
Dived in no more than 7m off hillaries cpl weekends ago and there were heaps of crays around!
gruntre69
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Yes, the first spot was a
Yes, the first spot was a crap spot. I did see crays but just not stacks... It's all relative to what you've done before I guess.. I did two dives and one was a spot I'd dived last year. My thinking was there wasn't as many around but it's perception....
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devhay
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Boat is still in the shop
Boat is still in the shop having a birthday at the moment, so we haven't had a chance to drop pots in yet..
Looks like a slowish start to the season so far, lots of talk of it kicking off after this new moon coming though?
sea-kem
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I'm working on dropping mine
I'm working on dropping mine around the 20th Nov.
Love the West!
randall df223
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I sm planning on putting
I sm planning on putting mine in this weekend.
Fish! HARD!
hodge
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Crays
Yep been in for a couple of weeks now. Doing ok in the shallows...
Out from woodys
Darren253
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Dive Spot
Taking two diving buddies out on Saturday from Woodies for a cray dive. (I'm too chicken sh*t and would look life a fat seal in a wetsuit these days)!
Anyone got any live intel they wouldn't mind sharing as to where to head for depth wise?
I'm not looking for spots but any general intel as to weather Carnac/The Five (Front or back)/Straggler regions and depths would be really useful... We usually pot in the high teens but those spots aren't really producing in pots yet.
They would rather dive as shallow as possible but hoping to get a feed each for the efforts.
Please PM if you don't want to share on here.
Thanks
tiimmbo
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I went out again today, got
I went out again today, got our bag in 27m in one dive then went for a bit of a look a bit shallower. There are plenty of crays in the 15-20 range and we got a bag last week in 18m and 12m, back edge of the FFB northern end of garden island. There are no pots out there but there are crays. Visibility was heaps better today, will be pretty nice out there tomorrow. Good luck.
sunshine
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Surprised to hear of a 35 metre dive on thursday
Where three divers on nitro bagged out despite limited bottom time ......mind I will be damned if I would leave a boat unmanned and at anchor in that depth. Reported over the radio that several were jumbos. I logged the GPS but won't use it as it was purely given for safety reasons
Darren253
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Appreciate the feedback
Appreciate the feedback guys!
mjohns
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15 on opening day, 24 today,
15 on opening day, 24 today, 15 came from 10m, today they came from less than 6, few whites amongst them
Josh
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6 from less than 10, plenty
6 from less than 10, plenty seen but not taken
Brock O
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Managed 7 yesty in close
Managed 7 yesty in close from 1 dive....two years ago found this spot holding a few which was good, last year went back pots every were and spot dead empty, tried it again yesty to get out of easterly, no pots and stocked up solid with crays everywhere....bloody potters!!!
All hard Reds...one was soft.
harro
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timmmmy
hey tim,
we were killing it until the moon came about this week,
loaded pots with bait now and awaiting the new moon ,,
must catch up for a fish mate
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tiimmbo
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as soon as the ban is over
as soon as the ban is over will hit you up mate
harro
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deffo timmmmmmmmy
we must go DEEEEEEEEP!!
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tiimmbo
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few whites around today. 1
few whites around today. 1 dive got our bag easy.
meglodon
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In what depth of water
Could you please tell me what depth of water you dived in.
tiimmbo
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We were in 28m today.
We were in 28m today.
Bodie
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sure they were whites and not
sure they were whites and not coralies?
Bti early for whites i think!
tiimmbo
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They were whites and some of
They were whites and some of them were soft as well
meglodon
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Thanks for the reply
They are as safe as houses in that depth of water, non of my pots have string that long nor do I have the strength to pull them from that depth even with a winch.
Notorious
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We bagged out freediving on
We bagged out freediving on Tuesday and Wednesday (4-6metres). Today they were hard to find with tough conditions. only managed 5 today (4-14metres.
No whites, a few double shells and seen a few empty shells on the sea floor today
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tiimmbo
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We struggled a bit but got
We struggled a bit but got 14 today.
randall df223
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First check of the pots
First check of the pots yesterday after a week soak. No crays. Still exploring a new fishing area so checking out spots. Hoping they are a bit better positioned this week.
Fish! HARD!
Mrlickalotopus
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Nothing on a 2 day pull
Pots in 13m at carnac, bait has been eaten and only broken feelers left in the pots.
PJim
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Is it worth putting pots in
Is it worth putting pots in now or wait for the whites
Stefan
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Dunno PJim but it looks like
Dunno PJim but it looks like ours go in tomorrow. A mates had his in since the start of the season but not done to well so far.
PJim
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I'm thinking tomorrow arvo as
I'm thinking tomorrow arvo as well
little johnny
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Swim
Swim swim:):)
PJim
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I have trouble getting my fat
I have trouble getting my fat guts below 3 mts and staying down long enough to grab anything
Marineboy
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Dived today
dived 18mtrs this arvo, shitloads of crays around fair few whites in amongst them. Vis was a little average.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
still trying
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none fron 4 today i got afew
none fron 4 today i got afew last weekend i was hoping to get a slow increase so was really disappointed when i got each pot to the top to see it empty. Been leaving it to weekly checks so wondering if it is worth it to check tomorrow did have a cray leg in the pot.
rather be fishing
harro
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ONE RED
we pull pots friday, but they had been in a week and no bait left ,
we didnt expect any as been in too long but we had 1 red,
gonna try again tomorrow, everyone coming in with pots only had 1 or 2,
the new moon is tonight so the white run should start anytime ,,,
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gtrmosh
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Whites
I put pots in to soak on Thursday in prep for the run after the new moon, pulled on Saturday was pleasantly surprised to land 9 keepers all white, threw back 6 undersized.
Rebaited and will be pulling again Monday, pretty stoked considering I wasn't expecting any action untill later in the week to come
Cheers
hilly9
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4 pots off mandurah and none
4 pots off mandurah and none today for us. Been quiet for a fortnight now
meglodon
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Quiet..., you can hear the sea lice smacking their gums
For the last week or so I have caught absolutely zip, nil none, empty pots. I'm fishing in 8 metres of water about 2 k south of the cut and a couple of weeks age I was getting the odd one or 2 but that stopped and all just went quiet.
I've changed types of baits tuna heads to mullet to bits of skinned road kill I came across. Been checking pots daily except when the weather would make checking them a bit exciting the type of excitement I don't need at this time of life. Have had the pots on the reef, next to the reef in the weed all for zip.
Just checking the pots every 2 days from now on as the baits are not being knocked around by scavengers or occys .
I think it's just a matter of waiting waiting more waiting until they decide to throw their shells harden up and the move.
ranmar850
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There will always be a gap for potters
Just because you get some as soon as the season opens, doesn't mean they will just keep producing until the whites start. They will be down there, divers will get them, but the potting side of things always goes very quiet when they are down for their moult.
rtomkyns78
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I put my pots in on the very
I put my pots in on the very first day and managed three reds before that storm straight after the storm got another seven and thats when the amount of pots around increased. I was in about 10m behind GI and all the action dried up so I moved out to the bank about a week ago, Saturday just gone got two whites so hoping the action is going to heat up from now on.
Anyfishwilldo (not verified)
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I put my pots out Saturday
I put my pots out Saturday just gone, went to pull yesterday and both stuck
either that or they are that full of crays I can't lift them haha
harro
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attach some rope
tie some rope to the float/ropes mate and pull thenm in the opposite direction , or drive drive sw until the pot moves
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Anyfishwilldo (not verified)
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Cheers mate I'll try
Cheers mate I'll try tomorrow (Friday)
still trying
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maybe a really big cray
maybe a really big cray wearing your pot as a bumbag full of snacks
rather be fishing
gtrmosh
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Bagged out
Got my 3 person limit of whites this morning in 2 pots, some decent sized ones too
gtrmosh
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Bagged out
Got my 3 person limit of whites this morning in 2 pots, some decent sized ones too
Mike17
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NOR- SOR?
NOR- SOR?
Use The Force
gtrmosh
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NOR
NOR
blu2fish
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Three person limit
Three person limit ALWAYS comes from three different licenced pots just in case the boys and girls from fisheries are listening...just saying.
blu2fish
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Three person limit
Three person limit ALWAYS comes from three different licenced pots just in case the boys and girls from fisheries are listening...just saying.
gtrmosh
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One of the pots is shared
One of the pots is shared with 2 of my crew
harro
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great haul mate
awesome bud
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blu2fish
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Sharing pots
I'd have that verified by the Fisheries as the way I read it shared pots are for when the pot owner isn't on board, not having a go at you but would hate to see some one get fined when they are thinking they're doing the right thing, at this moment in time I don't think the powers that be would be very lenient. Last season I was informed that my brother could put his floats on and pull my son's pots when he was at work.
sea-kem
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Got that in writing? Not
Got that in writing? Not being smart but I'd take that with a grain of salt. Because it says nothing to that effect in the guide, maybe in the act?
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meglodon
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I have always found
I always read your posts and find them very informative and accurate, but I must confess that this post has me a bit bewildered.
The following is an extract from the latest guide for taking crays and as such an activity has to be complied with down to crossing the Ts and doting the eyes one must be so careful.
Hving read the guide a few times I keep coming up with this section 7 which by my enterpretation is the same as blu2fish ie: 2 people may jointly have a licence for the one pot.
If I am wrong please put me on the right track as it would be most appreciated.
copy from guide to taking rock lobster.
Sharing pots
Two licensed fishers are now permitted to
share a rock lobster pot. Each licensed fisher
must attach a separate float with only their
own gear identification (ID) number on it, to
the pot. No more than two floats, each with
only one gear ID number, must be attached.
Each licence holder may use no more than
two pots to fish for lobster, even when
sharing pots, and may not have their gear
ID number on more than two pots, including
when sharing pots.
Fishers are not permitted to bring home
lobsters on behalf of the person who shares
their pot and may only take and land their own
bag limit.
gtrmosh
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The way I see it if both are
The way I see it if both are on board if there is 16 Lobster in their first pulled pot they can share them between them, but they cannot pull their next pot. Share is the key point here.
sea-kem
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And that's the way I see it
And that's the way I see it too, my point is don't take anything on board verbally from anyone. If you have it in writing then it stands up in court if it comes down to that.
Scenario I shared on farcebook last night: Two guys can only afford one pot and they share that betwwen them, they go and pull that pot and it's jammed with crays. Well they both have a licence for that pot so 16 crays in there are theirs.
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meglodon
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Totally agree
If I pay my fees I want what I paid my money for = 8 crays
hezzy
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why cant they pull the next
why cant they pull the next pot ??
the act allows any licence holder to pull or check his pots as often as he likes ........ he just cant take more than his one bag limit per day from his licenced pots ..so if you had your limit ...you can still check the next pot up to a limit of 6, if all 3 licence holders are onboard a the time ...... release , rebait or reset any of those 6 pots with impunity ...so long as you only take each licence holders bag limit and no more for that day
hezzy
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evil flourishes when good men do nothing
meglodon
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How about chasing some of them south
If you guys are doing ok NOR perhaps you could chase some of them down to us SOR things are really quiet at the moment, no crays of any colour.
gregk
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no cray yet
pulled on Monday arvo for 4 keepers 3 reds 1 white pulled Wednesday for 0 back of the five out from rocko we will be doing 2 day pulls till it stsrts wont be long
JohnF
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Last 4 days : 4,4,11,10.
Last 4 days :
4,4,11,10.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
little johnny
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That's good
There slowly cranking up..
still trying
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weather is killing me im
weather is killing me im pretty much limited to weekends to check my pots nor but i also need good weather as it is beach launch. I look out the factory door everyday at work and see no wind it torments me and the weekend forecast doesn't look any good. Im pretty confident my pots are full now but will they hang in there till im able to get to them?
rather be fishing
Marineboy
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Dived today
dived 18mtr again, lots of soft shell whites, bagged out on quality crays.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
harro
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bagged
bagged 2 days in a row yeowwww .... or was that 3 , i forget now , crays everywhere lol
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Dale
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Your killing us Harro
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Mr Wolf
Bodie
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Bulk crays.... enough said :)
Bulk crays.... enough said :)
PJim
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How are people going down
How are people going down Safety bay area?
randall df223
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Struggling, but i am new to
Struggling, but i am new to that area. Still looking for the right ground
Fish! HARD!
JohnF
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We were on the crab
We were on the crab today!!!!!!
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
ChrisG
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How it going out of OR?
How it going out of OR?
little johnny
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Another one done
In court the other day. Pulling wife's pots and interference with other pots. Anyone answer 1 question, how can someone advertise on face book (charter boat). Catch your own Crays x amount of dollars . ( in there pots), there I'd not on them ( paying customers)? No dought they have permission and licence to do so. Why can't local pros sell more of boats to people who can't afford shop prices? I honestlly can't see difference .
ranmar850
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Pro's can't afford to sell at a loss.
I know you all reckon they are rich, but it's mostly the blokes that own the pots and lease them out that are raking it in. Poor bastards leasing pots are often struggling to keep their heads above water. Investors take it all.Price of crays goes up, leased pot prices go up. Just like when I was doing it, but at least we didn't have kg constraints, go hard and catch as much as you could. If you are in the happy position of owning most of your pots and sweet with the bank, you can work your quota without too much of a worry about what the price is. But too few are.
little johnny
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Yeah true
Loose money on local market
ranmar850
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Up to us to spread the love
I give away as many as I can, anyone who wants a feed is welcome. My wife takes some into schoool to give away in the office. After they start, you are battling to stay inside your legal possession limit after a few days anyway. Eat lots fresh, freeze some, have a running tally of freezer contents written up on the tiled wall with whiteboard marker.
little johnny
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Done same for
Pensioners on my street other day. Nothin better in my books.
Dale
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Wish I had a happy crayfisho in my neighbourhood who is happy to do that.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
ranmar850
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aw, I'll bring some down for you
Dale
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"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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ChrisG
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Pots in yesterday, first
Pots in yesterday, first pull for the season this morning
bait hardly touched
6 keepers
And 3 undersize
from 3 pots
mix of reds and whites
In close
harro
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bagged again
pretty sloppy out there, had to work harder today pulling up all 4 pots
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