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 I don't own either but from what I've heard the Seagate is infact a beefier/better Saltist.

I've got a Daiwa Demonblood 64CJ matched to a 4500 Phantom J - a really nice light match.  Knocked off a PB Pinkie on plastic the other weekend (90cm+) and a nice small Sambo and it went well.

Depending on personal preferences you might find the Seagate a bit heavy matched up to the 64CJ (I was suprised with their weight when playing around with one in a shop).

 Thanks mrbishi some helpful info cheers

What breaking strain are you running through your outfit?!

Just check weightings the seagate is an extra 140gm than your phantom bit of a difference hey

 I'm running 40lb Daiwa accudepth braid (it's so damn thin I fitted 300m + backing on the spool!) - I don't think you'd be wanting to run any heavier through the Demonblood 64CJ - the Saltigas CJs would probably handle it.

If you put the Seagate on the Demonblood 64CJ and then a lighter 4500 reel I think you'd find it'd feel more balanced with the lighter reel - but again personal preference.

You can see mine in action here on a small Sambo (same day I nailed the large pinkie):

vimeo.com/45185572 

Are jigging style rods too short for what you want?  I'm no expert but I'd say the Seagate would match up better to something in the PE4-6 range - for $199 hard to go past the Daiwa Monster Mesh Max's.  Here's a vid of me on a 20kg Sambo on a Monster Mesh Max PE5-6 running PE6 on a Ryobi Safari 5000.

vimeo.com/45055279

(excuse the sitting down in the video's - I'm not too stable on my feet connected up to fish running heavish drags on the casting deck with nothing to lean against :D )

 Thanks mate

Yeh had feeling it may be too light

Ill have a look at the vids shortly cheers!

I was tossing up between all of these plus the monster mesh...

Jig rods should be ok mainly gonna be bottom bashing with the odd large popper or plastic thrown at kings do a tad extra length would be preferred 

 The Seagate Hiramasa 63s looks like a nice rod - the guys at Ray and Annes said they put a Ryobi Safari 5000 on one and they thought it felt good so the Seagate 4500 would be also good on one!

The T curve deep Jig 200 would be a great match for the Seagate 4500. The Hiramasa is about the best factory rod I've ever had the pleasure to pick up in a shop (but is expensive) but the T curve can take 50 lb line and the Hiramasa is rated a little below that so you'll have to decide how heavy you want to go. I have the Seagate 3500 Light and it is a brilliant reel. It's nailed a few fish now including a 50lb plus GT and this massive Groper (link below). I wouldn't put 50 lb on it though. 40 lb sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN10d8WuUOk&list=UUaoZD62h00DLI_GrJi49fhA&index=5&feature=plcp

 Awesome thanks for the input guys

I was under the impression the seagate hiramasa was rated to 50lb? Ray and Anne's had the specs at 30-50lb line rating. They have it with a saltist 4500H combo so im sure the seagate will balance nicely

Pretty set on the seagate 4500e so just a matter of which rod!

My apologies. I thought you were talking about the SALTIGA Hiramasa!! I reckon though they should still be the same and it is rated to 19 kg so jsut shy of 50lb (42lb to be accurate).

It still sounds like a nice rod though you may be pushing it with 50lb. That rod with the Seagate light and 30lb braid would be one sweet outfit. And yes the 4500 would also be fine on it too with a lot more line capacity.

So if you want 50lb I would go the deep jig 200. Less than than you can toss a coin between that and the Seagate Hiramasa.

 Thanks bunny

Found seagate hiramasa specs and you're correct it's only rated to pe4 which is a shame

Ther doesn't seem to be much in the market around the 6'0-6'3 length in pe5 rods unless I'm missing something!

Tcure definitely leading the way but all the jig rods seem to lack that extra bit of length to cast a lure

I know there is no rod that will cover all bases but primarily only need it for bottom bashing with the odd lure thrown short distances