Fish ID

Gday Guys
Been enjoying the website for a while and have never got around to signing up (until now anyway!). Hoping someone on here can help me with an ID on a fish caught last weekend. I cant recall ever being completely stumped on a fish ID before, but this is definitely something I've never come across. Looks like a buff bream crossed with a red snapper to me but hoping someone can give me an actual ID! Got him off Rockingham.

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I'll have a look in the bible

Wed, 2014-10-08 12:41

I'll have a look in the bible when i get home

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 looks alot like a crimson

Wed, 2014-10-08 13:01

 looks alot like a crimson sea pearch (chicken hawk) would be a rape catch down souh if it is


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 Rape catch is the best type

Wed, 2014-10-08 13:28

 Rape catch is the best type of catch

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Wed, 2014-10-08 13:31



I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.

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 Your profile pic always get

Wed, 2014-10-08 19:03

 Pricey - Your profile pic always get me hahaha 

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Cheers, yeah Crimson was my

Wed, 2014-10-08 15:35

Cheers, yeah Crimson was my first thought but the head and mouth seemed to be a different shape, plus you dont generally catch them down here!

In saying that the last couple of years there have been a few "rape" catches going on around the metro area. We've caught an emperor off rotto, threadfin salmon at preston and had a good session of blacktip reefys down at preston last summer

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Barber Perch

Wed, 2014-10-08 15:42

Its a male barber perch

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maybee a female barber perch

Wed, 2014-10-08 17:38


Barber Perch, Caesioperca rasor (Richardson 1839)More Info


Endemic to temperate waters of southern Australia, from Wilsons Promontory, Victoria, to about Albany, Western Australia, and around Tasmania. 

Barber Perch form large schools on sheltered coastal reefs, feeding on plankton above rocky reefs, outcrops and drop offs at depths of 7-100 m. They are usually found at shallower depths and in more sheltered habitats than Butterfly Perch.


Meristic features:
Dorsal-fin spines/rays X-XI, 19-21; Anal-fin spines/rays III, 9-10; Caudal-fin rays 17; Pectoral-fin rays 14-15; Pelvic-fin spines/rays I, 5; Lateral line 47-55; Vertebrae 11 + 15.
Body slender, compressed; pectoral fins elongate; dorsal fin long-based; tail forked. 


To 26 cm


Males and females are sexually dimorphic. Males bluish above, yellowish on sides with a distinct vertical black bar above anal-fin spines. Females pinkish with a blue line below the eye; small juveniles pink with a dark mauve head.


Carnivores - feed on zooplankton


Females spawn pelagic eggs, and the larvae are pelagic.


Occasionally taken by recreational anglers.


In some areas, Barber Perch and Butterfly Perch form mixed schools.

Similar Species

Differ from the closely-related Butterfly Perch, Caesioperca lepidoptera, in having a more slender body, males being more bluish with a dark bar rather than a blotch on the midsides.



Species Citation

Serranus rasor Richardson, 1839, Proc. Zool. Soc. London 7: 95. Type locality: Port Arthur, Tasmania


Dianne J. Bray



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 Definitely not a barber

Wed, 2014-10-08 20:00

 Definitely not a barber perch if they only get to 26cm, this thing was around 65cm!

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Pinjalo Snapper

Tue, 2014-10-21 09:52

This one stumped me too at first - waaaay south of range. I'm pretty sure this is a Pinjalo Snapper Pinjalo pinjalo - which is one of the tropical snappers (family Lutjanidae). I don't suppose you kept it for the museum :-)?

Worth sending the pic to Redmap ( and I might end up confirming it there too.



Glenn Moore

Curator of Fishes

Western Australian Museum

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Very interesting thanks

Tue, 2014-10-21 11:22

Very interesting thanks