FISHERIES great driving skills
On water incident happened approx 740 am. Pulled 1 pot took 3 crays out drove to find location fisheries heading towards me took boat out of gear started to drift. So he decided I will go port to port as he is trying to look at my boat from other side of his boat .crack hit my boat pushed back end under. No dought there cameras will show this. My exact words where wtf great. Immediately he blamed me. Very abruptly. Why the fuck wouldn’t they approach from starboard side where he could see ? And with drift. sometimes I wonder. I have reported issue ,more than 3 hrs later still heard nothing at all. I have broken back bollard 7 new stress cracks and big chip Also has cracked goo that holds rubber on . After he put in reverse to get off my boat 2 other fisheries officers ran to back of his boat so he didn’t hit my front. Keep in mind this is all my fault. No dought there cameras will show this.
sunshine
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Let me know if you need a letter of demand drafted
Can easily do it electronically, do you have their boat reg
DOGFISH
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incident report
Download and submit a marine incident report form. Transport.wa.gov.au I wasn't able to copy the link for some reason.
Livewire
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Crazy
Same happened to my mate a couple of months back. They blamed him and tired to get away with it. Took some time too get them too except responsibility. Photos where the key factor. I'm sure if we hit there boat things would be very different
little johnny
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They did same to hooty
Rammed his boat few years back funny enough I was on board that day. Dent and paint they fixed . Also they never introduced them selfs as fisheries until after the event .
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Man only just got boat
Back. As you know sunshine. I have requested there footage. Everyone knows they record everything. If not I will help them. Iam still waiting for reply pretty sure there supervisor was on boat. I know there only doing there job but pure stupidity trying to board a boat the way it’s drifting (1.2 ks an hour to be exact) little Johnny records everything. Now days. As do they. Man I would hate to see this person pushing shopping trolley through graham farmer freeway . All jokes aside no apology nothing ( show me pot I’d show me licence how many crays) fuck me really . The driver blamed me as footage shows when they hit me ,I wasn’t even near gear lever. Great way to start my first day of holidays.
Coastrunner
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Thats bullshit
Youd expect better from a professional, hope its only cosmetic and Fisheries pays for repairs. Like you said, at least a 'sorry about that mate' would have gone a long way, no doubt trained not to admit fault.
Ahpuka
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What sort of boat were they
What sort of boat were they in? marked or unmarked?
SpotHound
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Can be both
One of their boats has the signs in a holder and can be revesred to hide !
little johnny
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Marked
Seen them coming took out of gear .doing nothing wrong . It’s my right to see there footage also. There body cams always on when they approach or search anyone. Came in way to fast on a drifting boat. Enough to drive and push back end of boat under. They reversed off there lucky I never had my grandson in back corner
Lefty 44
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Had similar a few years
Had similar a few years back.
Tried to board me in my 4.2m tinny in 20knott winds as I was trying to get back without sinking.
Told them to back off as if they bumped me in a 8mtr rib they would roll my boat.
After a long arguement and repeatedly moving away from them they finaly saw sense.
Public servents eh!
little johnny
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I was drifting from se to nth west
They where approaching East . Why the fuck would anyone come to blind side of boat. Why wouldn’t they circle an come other side and say fisheries wanna check catch. Or what ever shit they say. If I did something like this at work I would be written up or loose my job . Surely they have safe boarding procedures in place . And swi safe work instructions. If it would have been small ally boat ect rather than glass boat . Who knows . By the way still waiting on call .
VIC DORY
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little johnny
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Vic
You have no fucking idea. Don’t talk shit. It’s actually old failed 2 pack marine paint. Over gel coat . Original underneath. Tossa.
little johnny
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My decki offered
To show safety gear . Quote “ where not interested “ in checking nothing . My last spill on subject . I hope my bitch helps fisheries follow safe boardings on smaller vessels . This is second encounter I have experienced . It’s not nice when boat 3 times size of yours drives over back end of boat. Anyone who supports this good on ya Iam fuming
quadfisher
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More hits than Elvis?
12 months ago , 2 months after buying the newish haines , I was near ( but outside the exclusion zone) at the naval jetty G.I.
A private naval contractor approached our boat to warn of a submarine movement, ( BIG NIAD)
I was travelling slow at approx 5 knots in a straight line , and they spun around on his offside at approx 12 knots and hit us side on almost up ending the boat.
Smashed a rod , rod holder ( breaking gunnel) smashed a anntenna, and scuffed whole side of boat.
Same shit , they straight away blamed me , and started complaining about my langauge , ( I new I had one chance to abuse the living crap out of them)
Once I settled down , I filled out my DOT marine report , and contacted the contractor themselves.
It wasnt easy but after 3 long months I had boat repaired and fixed, and DOT found them at fault but took no action.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
So just lately we were approached by fisheries in cockburn , young lass driving , and It almost happened again , she had no idea,
and if not for me moving , and the old boy giving her directions would have been a hit again , personally Im sick of this shit,
FISHERIES AND OTHERS TRAIN YOUR PEOPLE BETTER , OR DONT BOTHER , cheers.
Good luck little jonny , dont take there bullshit mate , stick to your guns.
quadfisher
little johnny
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Vic was out of line
Iam not claiming nothing or trying to get anything ( after all house paint cheap). This was about safety nothing else. I would love this to happen to people like vic. Ever thought my boat is faded because I use it. They have lost any respect I have . Spoiled my morning through a dangerous act .
quadfisher
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Report.
Cool mate , you dont have to claim anything, but you are required to report all collisions at sea, and nothing will change if we all dont.
Pushing the rear of your tub down and causing visable damage and structral cracks is a collision at sea.
Good luck mate , have a beer, and good on you for posting today...... if vic dont agree then stuff him.
quadfisher
Tom M
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Would be requesting a copy
Would be requesting a copy of their procedures for boarding or approaching, which should included a variety of weather conditions etc. May also ask to see training records for compliance to this procedure. Also ask for a statement on their Duty of Care.
Tom M
SpotHound
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Confidential
I'm sure they will say its confidential tactics
Skull
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Footage
I suspect the footage might mysteriously disappear LJ, at least you have yours if they try to deny what actually happened.
Hopefully they do the right thing, surely someone on the fisheries boat should have been experienced enough to realise they were coming in on the wrong side.
Got stopped out of Two Rocks, same as you I saw them coming and stopped boat and put out of gear, I must have been lucky because fisheries guy boarded my boat without theirs contacting mine.
Good Luck hopefully it works out for you.
Skull
Stickbait6
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They are useless , most of
They are useless , most of the time i find them up themselves entitled wankers . Iv had a similiar thing out back of rottnest hooked up to a big dhu and they attempted to come over twice , well after me and the old man hurled the vocals at them they back of until the fish was landed. The attitude we got once they were boat side was appauling and I was pretty close to punching the young bloke in the face.
little johnny
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All pro fisheries guys
Keep this in mind . Soon as hooty comes back very simular story . Just fucked my morning up . No respect at all from me . Absolute crap. Swept under carpet. Safety . Really
little johnny
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Come on vic
No dought everyone waiting for your help and wisdom on matter. Lost your balls . Maybe?. Don’t post and remove dick head . You have no idea how pissed off iam . After tracking your account another one in my books. If you think iam wrong in this matter and use wrong paint please share with everyone . Don’t be shy
Curndog
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Yeah Vic if ur gonna pipe up
Yeah Vic if ur gonna pipe up stick to ur guns big ol puss puss
Curndog
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Fucken dawg c#nts. 3 metre
Fucken dawg c#nts. 3 metre flatty
piston broke
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Flatties are bustin up
done himself a mischief.
Da pirate
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Blokes on blokes ..
Ain't man till ya had a man !!
Curndog
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Hahahaha
hahaha I wanted to post that one pirate but I was to scared incase no one got it. Not making light of ur situation johnny I think you are one of the best most helpful blokes on this site
meglodon
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Sorry to hear of this incident
Unfortunately I think you will find
No film of incident can be given to you dept policy
Names of those officers involved with held privacy requirement
Can not supply copy of procedure for coming along side other craft internal document not to be released to the public for operational reasons
Skippers competency can not be questioned confidential dept information.
Don't give up, put in accident at sea report and keep on their case in a polite but assertive manner, issue questions and all requests in writing.
SeperateKnob
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Yeah that sucks so it will be
Yeah that sucks so it will be your word against theirs. But if you were on drift what else can you do? Obviously they would see no one is at the helm and navigate around your vessel
little johnny
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Calmed down today
These things should not happen on water. If your experienced driver. Iam glad they do check people pulling pots. But no need for close contact. My boat isn’t pretty don’t really care about cosmetics just my motor gets well looked after
surfer
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G'day LJ,Good to see you
G'day LJ,
Good to see you out there this morning still enjoying it (we were the ones that came up when you were dropping one of your pots). Happy that they're checking people but I naturally assumed they had the appropriate training and skill level to operate their equipment. Duty of care in all industry dictates that safety comes before anything else.
surfer
little johnny
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Wondering who it was
Cheers for coming over to say g/day . Pulling pots out tomoz .
surfer
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All good, funny how I was 20m
All good, funny how I was 20m away and we could still communicate without me parking my bow in your stern :).Our pots comin out Friday, numbers dropped right off last 2 days.
still trying
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The condition of your paint
The condition of your paint job is beside the point they should take the same care with your boat than any other, if they had this training in place these things wouldn't happen. I'm sure the issue would be different in their eyes if it were their boat being damaged. At least you can still fish.
rather be fishing
meglodon
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Now how good is their
Drone flying skills.
little johnny
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Funny
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little johnny
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Meglodon
They use them in big vessels and ducts where I work. They can inspect refractory the lot without opening whole unit up . They are unreal to watch. Until he crashed it in our cage mill. If your bored type in drone racing in under cover car parks . Incredible
SeperateKnob
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People must know Cockburn
People must know Cockburn sound is still closed. Will it ever open again??
Jim
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That sux little johnny, I got
That sux little johnny, I got approached by fisheries and they cut off 2 off my favourite squid jigs in mangles bay!
Bend over
little johnny
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Got some good out my
Crying. Some guy gave me new back bollard ( perfect match) met surfer . They honestly think there above anyone else. I would highly recommend everyone video them when they approach your boat. I personally think they come in to quick ( big boat )Without them we would be stuffed, totally agree we need them . There people skills suck .( like mine). Met a few crackers over the years . 3 be be exact . They spoke to you like your human and in return they got politeness back.. all good . New one excellent attitude going to go far. I can tell . Still got my humour
SeperateKnob
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Need to make up a sign.
Need to make up a sign. “Stop! I Will Approach”
little johnny
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Nah just keep hard hats
In boat :)
SeperateKnob
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Yeah hard hats and an all
Yeah hard hats and an all round bull bar for ye boat