A friendly word of warning to the skippers

 Have been meaning to put this out there for a while.As the technology gets better keeping spots a bit quiet is going to get harder.I dont mean to discourage guys from taking others fishing as it will be a sad day when you cant trust anyone.Just be aware that with the new i phones,cameras and video cameras a fair few of them now have gps locators so now a pic can ping the spot.In theory if you take a pic of the deckie on your boat with his camera or i phone then you are pushing the ping button for them.Just a word of caution.

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Yep this really sux. Got to a

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:05

Yep this really sux. Got to a stage where you have to ban phones of guys your not 100% sure off or just stick to your regular deckies you can trust.

I have spent hours and hours of sounding to find a lot of my spots and to have a decky ping me would really piss me off.

Firstly because these guys usually don't have a boat and use the spot to to get another ride with someone else.

And if its a good spot they or the person they gave it to will hammer it because they don't have any good spots of their own.

Have had it happen to me a couple of times now and the spots pinged are no longer good spots.

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How easy would it be to go out with Saltwater or Whitey

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:08

 or Bernie up north and fire off a few innocent looking photos and then go back on a private boat and fish the same ground in a new area without doing any of the hard work yourself

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You could do it with mills

Thu, 2011-02-17 09:21

You could do it with mills :0.......Hang on it wouldn't be worth the effort!!

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Lol mate

Thu, 2011-02-17 14:03

 here we go again.

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I think you have to actually

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:10

I think you have to actually open up another application to get spots on the iphone. The camera app itself doesn't ping spots.

In any case, I'm sure all skippers know about gps devices, they just wouldn't invite deckies on they don't trust.

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if you own a charter boat you have no choice in the crew

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:13

 you take.

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Ahh of course they do, charters

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:25

Ahh of course they do, charters can choose not to take people, same as any other business.

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Ok then Till

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:29

 so if you rang Whitey or Craig and said i want to come out on a charter and they said no.How long would it take for them to run out of clients or for you to jump on here and rag the hell out of them?Hyperthetically speaking of course.

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Hypothetically speaking, I

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:35

Hypothetically speaking, I guess if you were enough of a dog to get refused access to a charter for pinging you would be too embarasssed to whinge about it online. Just imagine if you did and either Whitey or Craig caught you out? I doubt that would have any negative effect on their business.

Mind you, perhaps the person doing it might not really think the problem the whole way though and do it anyway? Much like this forum topic.

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That is my point Till

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:40

When they bought out handheld gps all the skipper needed to do is keep an eye out for guys going to their gear every drift.Now it can be done with just an innocent looking photo.

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 at the end of the day you

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:43

 at the end of the day you have to trust the people that you take out ,or share your marks with and trust that they will not share them with ANY one when fishing onboard another boat ,i try not to take to many crew as i can trust the crew i all ready have

 

  All comes down to Trust who we all fish with, you dont trust you dont take

 

 

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Hands up all those who own charter boats

Sun, 2011-02-13 07:55

Apart from the couple of site sponsors that is, I cant beleive that many people on here would be taking anbody who wasnt

a good mate on their boat and if they are mates they cant be that good if you dont trust them

 so why take them in the first place. so in the long run this isnt a big problem

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I know in my case i take

Sun, 2011-02-13 10:11

I know in my case i take strangers out all the time. Mainly because i cant usually find anyone i know to come out with me as most of my friends are usually to lazy or dont rock up to my place in the morning because they have been out on the piss.

Shares in the costs of the trip, but also gives me the opportunity to meet new people from different walks of life, and maybe even learn some new fishing techniques off them. I even enjoy going out with other people on their boats, mainly to learn how other people do things to see if i can maybe apply them to how i fish. In the end i will choose taking a stranger out fishing with me than not going fishing at all.

But then again with my track record on captures i dont really get much to warrant a deckie pinging my 'spots'.

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there is no honour among thieves

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:20

 I can honestly say that i have never done it.I have done most of my fishing on my own boat and taught myself most of the stuff i know through trial and error.The spots i have had given to me have never gone any further and will remain that way.The spots i have given to others have always been ground i have found or ground i have found with the people i have shared it with.I have far more respect for people like Hesker that try and try again until they get it right than folks that ride on the coat tails of others.

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Well, my GPS went on the

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:36

Well, my GPS went on the fritz last year, and when I mentioned I could not take one of my less frequent deckies back to the spot we had caught a few nice fish, he said dont worry, he had pinged them on his phone.........I had no idea he had done it, and while it was nice to get the spots back, I was totally annoyed at the same time.......needless to say he has never been on the boat again.

 

Very cautious with deckies now, and totally respect someones elses spot if I am privaledged enough to be taken to fish it.........

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It is a sad day hey

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:44

 It will get to the stage that you will need to frisk people before they board the boat

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 with some of the deckies ive

Sun, 2011-02-13 08:55

 with some of the deckies ive had on my boat ill class this as a good thing 

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You need to get that 'special

Sun, 2011-02-13 10:06

You need to get that 'special soft plastic' we were talking about Clint. Might encourage a few more attractive deckies to come out with you and use it!

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haha john that is sooo

Sun, 2011-02-13 10:51

haha john that is sooo dirtyyy what a bastard.

Thankfully i am not into technology i phones etc because if i did own one id be on fishwrecked and all other internet sites instead of working plus phones dont last with me

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Where does it end though

Sun, 2011-02-13 09:00

does it get to the point where you so suspicious of new people that you stop taking on new deckies?

I think you may have been a little lucky by the sounds of it Clint

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yeah matt, it is a shame, as

Sun, 2011-02-13 09:04

yeah matt, it is a shame, as it is great taking new blokes out, as whilst you meet a few duds, you also meet some top blokes that become mates.

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just so you know

Sun, 2011-02-13 10:23

I am a top bloke - great company and will turn out my pockets anytime for those considering taking me out.

 

I also make delicious muffins and sandwiches etc. etc. etc.

 

Wifey never going to let me have a boat bigger than a dinghy though :o(

 

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luv it ricey.when are you

Sun, 2011-02-13 11:07

luv it ricey.

when are you free to come out with me???

 

i am not worried about pinging, if you want to ping my spots i dont give a shit anyway, as my best spots(which are only to 1/2 dozen i dont take strangers too)

but my freinds is open slather,

saying that, was out recently on a so called average spot and got some good fish, including dhu's,snaps and a nice shark, so when does a shit spot turn good?????

c'mon guys, does your so called x spot fire all the time? most likely not, and how many of your shit spots have been productive?

 

too much whinging about x spots, of course if they are doing it bluntly you say something, but having to watch people in case of this is bull shit.

if your thinking that way from the start, they are the wrong people to have with you!!!

 

also, i have been given some, so called primo spots from some respectfull fisho's....

and when checked out have been very average to say the least(on the day) but i trust these guys and will try the spots again another day.

but after saying all of this...........

i have the best spots out of any of you and i dont want you to know about them!!!!!!!ha ha ha ha

isnt that what we all think??

 

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hey fisho-ron

Sun, 2011-02-13 11:43

not related to this topic, but where you cruising around freo yesterday afternoon around 5 or so? coz i recongnize that car.

 

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yes mate that was me and the

Sun, 2011-02-13 19:54

yes mate that was me and the wife. i was on  big als poker run.

f**k it was hot as well with no roof, hope it wasnt you yelling out when the tyres accidently broke traction......he he

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u all sound like a bunch of

Sun, 2011-02-13 11:12

u all sound like a bunch of school kids. so what if someone pings you, I don't agree with driving right up to someone on the water and just pinging there spot into the GPS and or even coming over to my boat for any reason other then an emergency wile out on the blue water.. BUT if i see some one fishing a spot i WILL NOT just head over but remember that spot ruffly and maybe sound around that area next time... Just remember NO ONE owns the ocean But stay out of my personal space that's all i ask..

 

I say this as all of us are not on the water 24/7 so maybe that oh so secret spot isn't just YOUR spot, Like if u head out to your special spot and someone's there are u going to head over and tell them to move along.... ? Well if u do your a ping er your self.

 

and the i phone GPS location stuff that's been in the good phones and cameras for a few years now so your oh so secret shot may not be a secret anymore.

 

 

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I have clearly been pinged on a spot up here in Dampier

Sun, 2011-02-13 11:44

We are almost gauranteed a feed off NW snapper, trout and even so far 6 Reds in only 13-15m off water. A bloke came straight up to us, asking nicely "hows it going", reply "OK Mate". Reply, "should be killing a pig with the amount off fish on my sounder!!!!!!!!".

Blow me down the next weekend he is on THAT spot, and got grumpy at me when I approached.

That just F$#@s me off!!

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Thanks for the laugh

Sun, 2011-02-13 11:53

Thanks for the laugh Neels,,he got Grumpy cause he was fishing on the spot he pinged off you a few days before and you approached him,LMAO

 

He will be on here next complaning about bloody pingers,lol

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You might be laughing

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:32

But at that time i was mad as, and as for my already over aggressive fiance (any female that works as a Manager up here in Karratha fits this -- soory girls) she bloody let rip at the poor unsuspecting pinger and told him in very nice language where to go, and tried to show him the pinging photo that she took when he came over.

Needless to say we fished the spot and he soon buggered off.

But then yes, I can fully see the humour in it, and he probably is on here complaining. Not to many twin hull boats out there hey.

Neels

PS I drive to work everyday and can see the boat on my way to work, so I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!!!!!!

But as said above its not our spot, and since he now has found it I dont own it, but by hell and high water if he is on it, so will I be.

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lol mate

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:36

 

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i would never do that!

Sun, 2011-02-13 13:23

 but how do you not no he had fished that area before?? he was coming onto the spot which you happened to be fishing you were sitting right on the mark he says gday checks his sounder then returns later to fish it?? im not making excuses just want to no how you no they didnt already have that spot??

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I dont

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:11

But that is the point. It is a round and round arguement. Nobody owns it, but we found it by not pinging.

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This is not a case of

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:22

 "its not your ocean" or "you dont own a spot"Bull$1t it is about the fact that you could well be inviting a pinger on the boat and then pushing the button for them.I dont own any of the ground i fish and i regularly see the same boats around the areas and i have marked pots before we are all guilty of pinging in some form.My isssue is that we have gone out on our own boat and driven the miles and paid our dues for lack of better wording.To have some little cashed up d!@khead come along and use whatever method they can to avoid doing the hard work.I am sure i am not the only one on here that thinks that way i may just voice it a bit more than most.The people that think i am crazy need to come out and sit on a sand patch in the middle of nowhere and watch just how many kn@bs there are out there.You wont catch anything but it will open your eyes.I was out with Spess on the last trip and we found some new bits and pieces if he wants them he is more than welcome to them all he needs to do is ask as he spent the time on the water messing around to find it.While we fished that area we had 2 boats try and ping us all in all a quiet dayBy the way Feral sounds like your a hands on skipperLove your workNeels thats what gives me the S#!ts as well.They ping the ground then think they own it.

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Yeh mate

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:21

But as said above I dont know if it was his spot prior. It is just the fact that we found it by not pinging, ie doing the yards and this dude came up to "check". It is a spot "out off the way" up here in Dampier and yes he might have had it before, but somehow I doubt it, as it is more than a little left of centre where it is.

Anybody is welcome to fish any area, but us being on the spot 1 week earlier, and the next weekend he is on the same spot, telling us to *** Off. That is just not right and more than pisses me off. By the way we never fish the same spot in a row, it just happen to be out on the way to one off our other spots which is not so secret. Saw him on there and the hair rising just made me have to fish there to piss him off.

Dont like blasting an area but still is just so good that if we are out wider and get NADA we stop there on the way home and will get a feed of NW snapper and others.

 

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fisho-ron

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:34

it would be my pleasure to make your lunch sometime soon - though currently in hospital celebrating birth of my son. (so should be good by about 3pm? LOL)

 

 

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cooli will give you a few

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:04

cool

i will give you a few weeks to get the young fella sorted,,, then bring on the munchies...

usally if i dont take something to eat we starve, but thats kids for you!!!

 

on the othere side, seriously...i hope everthing has gone/going well for you guys.

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Never heard so much crap

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:43

in all my life, next it will be the yanks spying on you with their sattelites and pinging your spots for christs sake get over it

and get a life you bloody whingers!!!!!

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Welcome to the thread

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:47

 Fishy Fingers alway great to get some constructive input.

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Fishy fingers

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:25

You have not been pinged before have you???? I am by no way an agro person, but when it happens you do give a shit about it. It feels like you have just had something precious stolen by some thief.

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Mate you are so wrong

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:51

you couldnt be any wronger! ( I know thats bad grammer)  living down here I get pinged a lot and yes it does piss me off when someone comes and fishes next to me but they are welcome to fish there when i dont,  I'm not so dumb to think others dont know about any given spot in cooee of the metro area it's just that I HAVE A LIFE and fishing is not the most important aspect of it you guys talk about it like it's a life and death situation.... IT DOSENT MATTER! and anyway were not talking about pinging in general were talking about this conspiracy theory that anyone with a mobile phone could be out to ping YOUR spot when in reality it probably happens so in frequently it's not an issue, My point was if you think the guy you take out may rip off your spots then DONT TAKE HIM it's simple he MAY ping YOUR spot but 50 others may already have it just because it's out ofr the way a bit means nothing people were fishing before you were born and will continue long after your gone and yes on YOUR spots!

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I see your issue

Sun, 2011-02-13 17:11

But do you see mine. The thing that happened to me was just blatantly rude, and that does piss us off. I dont OWN any spots, and I only have an issue with this one boat, and if I find him on that spot I do get agro, and I WILL push in and hopefully push him off.

As for the rest of spots I CALL my own, but havent been pinged on, if I see anyone on them I just dont go there, because it has been found and marked, and someone else might think it THEIR spot and that you are pinging. WE just move to another of our spots in the big ocean and there is no issue.

As for Deckies, our spots are rated. We have named spots, like Snapper City, The Reef, Chinamans, Sure Bet, Golden Heaven etc, and these are close to the heart, then we have *** spots, ** spots and * spots. Deckies I trust go to 3 stars, dont ** and below. Named spots are just for us 2, or our family that has not fished before and we realy want to impress about Karratha and Dampier.

Some off our marks have no stars, just havent tested them enough, but any star means there's fish there, its just the quality and quantity that increase the rating level.

So I have no issue with owning anything, just dont come over, check me out, be on the same spot the next weekend and tell me to bugger off. Thats all.

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Yes

Sun, 2011-02-13 17:20

But my point is you presume someone has pinged you automaticaly when they already may have it

at the end of the day they may just be a nice guy wanting to say hello who alrready had the spot, It's like

people turn into angry green monsters when they are out on the water and think everyone is out to get em!

Like i said this isn't about pinging generaly it's about the mobile phone shit, people should look at life a little

differently and think maybe it's not that bad. I cant imagine the people of north queensland or the people of roleystone

or anyone else who has had tragedy in their life think this is an issue It's  not realy that bad.

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Still with you

Sun, 2011-02-13 17:38

But this one was a ping. The spot is about 1nm out off the regular way, and he drove in all that way, ie changed directions etc to get to us. There is not one ounce off doubt in my mind that it weas a classical ping. Then to find him on there the next week.

As for paranoid about deckies with phones etc, not worried. You still have to be able to read the drift, current, tide etc up here, so one out of four is not bad, but certainly not good. Having the spot is only one part off the puzzle. BUT they dont get to go to my named spots, which I agree someone else have already probably found, and I dont own them.

I am not that worried about Iphones etc, just w%%%^rs that ride up to you and ping.

 

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And the houseboat in Dampier

Sun, 2011-02-13 17:40

I am sure I could show you a few better spots than Thruster would have revealed. But then we can always ask him out on the boat too.

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Well thanks

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:50

for the warning allrounder, certainly something to think of when old fart takes out people he really doesn't know, fruit for thought there.  As old fart has some kick a....se spots out of Leeman, which we very rarely see anybody out there but must say we go out of peak season times, maybe thats why we go hahaha

Heard of a friend taking out a so called friend and the so called friend had a hand held GPS in his pocket, he actually took it out and marked the spot after they caught two nice big dhuie's.  You can image that so called friend never went out in friends boat ever again.  I can tell you it was a very frosty return home.  Think people that do this are lower than a snakes belly.

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Your post wasnt constructive in the first place

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:50

You must live a very mundane life to make an issue out of a non issue!

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If it had not been done already

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:57

 i would agree with you but as it has been done and will be done again it makes it an issue.Thanks for pointing out my mundane life as well before that i had no idea.I will seek help as soon as i can

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Your welcome

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See above mate.

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:32

I am totally with allrounder in this. We dont own a spot, we earn it by doing the yards. And it is great when you get a good spot. Then to have some pirate come over and ping you.??? Dont think so and as I said above it has not happened to you obviously.

If I see from a range someone on one off my spots I go to another. Dont want that person thinking I am pinging them.

But on a special spot I WILL park on it, and some agro on it is welcome to come onboard and see my date stamped marks on the GPS. But watch out for the agro chick onboard my boat!!!

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Are you referring to

Sun, 2011-02-13 19:16

my post fishy fingers,  it appears your comments are the be all and end all, if somebody doesn't agree with or somebody else's post you get all hortie tortie, sorry we are all entitled to our opinion, regardless of what I or you say, sometimes if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say, problem solved..  We all have our own opinions on life, fishing or pinging,   Some are more experienced than others, life is all about learning, wouldn't you agree

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Sorry to dissapoint you Roberta

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:43

But nothing was further from my mind than you or your comments, I was talking about people in general

making mountains out of mole hills

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Ok sorry

Wed, 2011-02-16 17:42

about that

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in the "old" days off Ningaloo...

Sun, 2011-02-13 12:52

when the handheld GPS's started coming out mid 90's, it was not uncommon for 1 bloke from a group to book a charter, ping spots and then they'd use them for the rest of their holiday in their own boat.

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Bernie has had it done

Sun, 2011-02-13 13:03

 I know of others that have had it done more resent.Many years ago i went out on the kalbarri explorer and we had a boat follow him all day.Got to the point i thought the skipper was going to turn around and plow the guy under.They didnt even have the balls to pay for a charter.

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Low

Mon, 2011-02-14 18:34

Now that's a bloody low act!

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meh

Sun, 2011-02-13 14:07

Amazing how big a deal it is these days.  I just wind up my line when I see some one coming, do a few bog laps around in circles slowly dragging them off the ground.  After making them fool around for long enough they soon begin to realise whats going on and disappear.  Might take away from some fishing time, but its a bit of fun wasting their time too and even better when you see them back at the ramp and you get the, how'd you go today spiel.  lol.

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We all do the old rope a dope routine

Sun, 2011-02-13 14:12

 The problem now is they can do it on your boat under your nose and most would have no idea it has happened.

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not a fishermans a@#hole

Sun, 2011-02-13 14:16

if you get into this sort of caper! The thrill of the hunt is in the chase. Its pretty sad when so called fishermen and women have to resort to this to catch fish! It always much more fun finding a spot for yourself, dont ya know!!

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i am beginig

Sun, 2011-02-13 14:45

i am begining to think i am lucky i dont have a boat haha.....sound like most of the time its a mission to fish, i now we dont own the ocean, but somtimes you put in the hard work to find a spot and somone just nabs it... not cool. but hay i fish from the rocks and beach so i wouldnt now too much lol i am yet to fish from a boat ( sea that is not river )

 

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The funny thing is I got

Sun, 2011-02-13 15:48

The funny thing is I got accused of pinging a guy a couple weeks ago. He says it is a great lump his friends gave him, and that I should f*&^ off somewhere else. After I explained that the Gemini Wreck is on every Navionics card as a feature, he quickly shut up. Really nice $100k Whittley too.

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LOL.

Sun, 2011-02-13 15:59

LOL.

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Yes no one owns the ocean or

Sun, 2011-02-13 16:17

Yes no one owns the ocean or any particular spot and your secret spot is probably someone elses , but its the same as the unwritten law of surfing, don't drop in on someone elses wave.

Fishing should be the same and I reckon around 200m is fair. This goes for both recs and pros (yes you know who you are )

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Fair call, Seaquest

Sun, 2011-02-13 17:38

It would sure make my life easier if we all played by these rules.

Cheers

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Oh oh

Sun, 2011-02-13 19:34

here we go, have a deep breath before we start this one.

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What rule is that,1a) Bow

Sun, 2011-02-13 19:40

What rule is that,

1a) Bow wash every Rec boat within 2 mile of you, and shout obscenities at the skipper !! ??

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OK Guys

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:23

Have had a conversation with Seaquest about this story and we agree to disagree on what happened that day.  Are on friendly terms and would like to keep it that way.

Cheers

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More than happy

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:32

to hear that Dean. Lets just hope that was an isolated incident and we can all get on with it.

I know this is off topic but,

good on you for chucking some money into Fishwrecked. Any word on member discounts? I personally can't afford $330 for a day out on the water.

 

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Thinking about getting some sort of last minute deal happening

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:40

Leave it with me.

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Cheers Mate

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:44

be great to have a good affordable local charter boat operating down here. Been a long time coming.

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well done

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:33

well done dean....seaquest

dont know the storie and dont need to know,(i could be out of line here) just good to see 2 fishos sorted there own shit out without coming to bullshit on here, beefed up by thoses who dont know what happened.

no matter what the outcome was.

good on ya guys

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 Yep moving on.I can imagine

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:41

 Yep moving on.

I can imagine beening a pro in a holiday town could get pretty frustrating at times.

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Really happy I live in the

Sun, 2011-02-13 18:03

Really happy I live in the North where good spots are pretty common. And to be honest I believe I know how to use my sounder and study contour lines on a GPS so that next 'hotspot' is only the next fishing trip away.

Those that know me will know I happily give away 'areas' to those that are looking for clues.

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The 3 worst things ever

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:33

The 3 worst things ever invented for wiping out fish stocks are:  GPS, sounder and the internet

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The sad thing is that it is no longer in that order.

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:36

 

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Adam..

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:40

think this post need closing..

 

way off topic with he said she said crap...

 

 

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gps on your mobile are useless

Sun, 2011-02-13 20:42

 i had a gps phone before and i can tell you by first hand experience,they are totally useless,only good for around town,i guess this is nonsence  everybody,i wouldnt even worry about gps on phones,what a joke,you cant even put waypoints etc

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Pretty sure one of my dive

Sun, 2011-02-13 21:11

Pretty sure one of my dive buddies marked a spot on his iphone with me once. Permission asked and all, so no dramas. It was another secret squirrel spot, about 2nm behind Burns Rocks. It was pretty hard to get to with the 786 cray pots around that day.

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hey cammosdid you get out

Sun, 2011-02-13 21:19

hey cammos

did you get out last week, i am sure i seen you towing the rig  on marmion with a white ute(signage on the door), i was thinking ...prick is out fishing while iam at work...how dare you...

ha ha ha

 

if so, how did u go 

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Yeah mate, was planning a day

Mon, 2011-02-14 18:04

Yeah mate, was planning a day trip to Rotto with the wife and my youngest, but the wind was up so we settled for a swim at Little Rock for the morning, followed by lunch at Hillarys. No fishing though. After my sounder/GPS shat itself at the ramp I probably would have canned the trip anyways, relying on electronic navigation  for the past couple years has made me lazy it seems.

Just came home with my nice new HDS7. Only had to buy the head unit as cables and brackets are the same as the old LCX25 which makes it very easy indeed. Will be fitting  a new thru hull trannie in the next fortnight or so though. Working hard getting the boat ready for Abrolhos trips starting next month.

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who cares

Sun, 2011-02-13 22:42

who really cares if your decky marks a spot its everyones not limited to one prick who thinks its HIS SECRET SPOT i will tell anyone who is with me where we are its a big ocean out there that is not owned by one particular person if someone comes along where your fishing you really dont have to play childish games by moving and pretending you are not catching anything how about share the spot he could be a novice wanting a bit of guidence whats the world coming to wake up no one person owns the ocean

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I'm with you strike zone

Sun, 2011-02-13 22:52

I'm with you strike zone 100%,

 

I have only just bought a boat and have no idea where to go.

Can you pm me some gps spots to catch some dhuies ?

 

Really appreciate it man

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LOL

Mon, 2011-02-14 18:37

You don't get if you don't ask.

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Still waiting though

Wed, 2011-02-16 21:30

Still waiting though Brother..

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try them

Fri, 2011-02-18 20:25

31 23 303s  115 20 551e  and   31 21 792s   115 17 378e   out from two rocks try them there good

plus i didnt think that its fair to pm them only to you as there are some more people out there that have no idea as well so i hope it helps them as well

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THATS MY SECRET SHOT..Not so

Fri, 2011-02-18 20:40

THATS MY SECRET SPOT..

Not so secret now...

 

Jokes.. lol

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Secret spot

Sun, 2011-02-13 22:56

There is a chap up here who has his own secret spot. He's been building it for years taking a few tyres out each time he goes up that way and evry so often he takes a dive and sets it all up.

I'm waiting on a reply on whether sea rescue can tow a stripped out trawler hulk [Fitzroy] and sink it. It was stripped out completely ready to scuttle when someone behind a desk somewhere put a stop to it. The word I have so far is that a report must be supplied yearly on its condition . Have to sit down with the charts, have a word with Fisheries, and trawler skippers to find a spot that won't interfere with their operation and then sink it and keep it secret for about a year so fish stocks can get established before informing the general public.

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Should be more of it, x

Sun, 2011-02-13 23:02

Should be more of it, x 100.

 

In South Aus they have similar artificial reefs that produce well all year round.

 

Typical backwater WA red tape bullshit, stops us achieving similar scenario's

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Lady Joyce

Sun, 2011-02-13 23:07

We ahve the Lady Joyce wreck which is in fact 2 trawler hulls together and a bunch of tyre reefs scattered around the same area but it gets hammered and unless you are the first one there after a bit of weather or willing to fish night time all you get is thousands of undersize pinks and black snapper with a mulloway tossed in occassionally.

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I hear you, but the fact is

Sun, 2011-02-13 23:16

I hear you, but the fact is these FAD's do work, even as a juvenile breeding ground.

 

The amount of landfill we accumulate, surely we should contribute a % to the barren areas in our ocean .

 

Especially those areas made Barren, by our own pro fisherman.